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Weren't the original implementation of those cameras basically the opposite? Private company sending bills that looked scary but people had no legal obligation to pay and the company would split the money with the municipality I guess that's probably a super regional thing though
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duz posted:whats great is due to how cities bid process works, often they have to pay for these cameras monthly and then use the fines to offset that meaning if there are no fines the city still has to pay the company running them so the city is the only one left holding the bag Wow that's incredibly dumb.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Wow that's incredibly dumb. Just another day in the Home of the
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:it's literally the only fair bet in the casino, which is why they force you to bet on pass first and vilify it by making it sound like you're betting against the shooter if you're hanging out with degenerate gamblers (i worked with oil industry guys for a while and holy poo poo) then sitting there and betting on pass is probably the least harmful thing you can do to yourself in a casino and still make friends people get so angry if you bet don't pass its weird
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500excf type r posted:Weren't the original implementation of those cameras basically the opposite? Private company sending bills that looked scary but people had no legal obligation to pay and the company would split the money with the municipality that's how louisiana did it, and they ended up losing a big lawsuit over it because those fines were deemed to be issued illegally and people realized that they could just not pay so millions went uncollected and they even had to refund a shitload. the company was doing something like a 70-30 split with the parishes or municipalities or whatever lol elsewhere, i think it was indiana, it turns out the camera company was allowed to retime the traffic signals in order to shorten the yellow phase so that more people would be running reds as you can imagine, this is not a great idea for public safety
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duz posted:whats great is due to how cities bid process works, often they have to pay for these cameras monthly and then use the fines to offset that meaning if there are no fines the city still has to pay the company running them so the city is the only one left holding the bag also the company running the cameras is often out of state so these things are basically a way to suck cash out of the local economy and burn it
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I've found it really interesting and also very sobering watching some governors talk about this. It actually seems to pull back the veil of political bullshit that they usually front when they talk to the media, and you actually see genuine human emotions like despair and disgust coming through. It also a somewhat bipartisan response too.
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duz posted:whats great is due to how cities bid process works, often they have to pay for these cameras monthly and then use the fines to offset that meaning if there are no fines the city still has to pay the company running them so the city is the only one left holding the bag where i live the camera company foots the bill for the cameras, maintenance and police time involved and the municipality gets nothing other than (supposedly) safer intersections. It's supposed to incentivize cops to give the benefit of the doubt to the driver so the only ones giving out unnecessary tickets are rear end in a top hat cops
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In my area the local city governments have made the extraordinarily wise decision of not joining the larger, well-funded consolidated county government and decided to get their revenues almost entirely through sales taxes and traffic fines, both of which have completely evaporated. Au revoir, boomour.
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https://twitter.com/jack/status/1247616214769086465 Who wants to bet that somehow giving away all his wealth makes him richer. Like with Gates.
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He hasn’t done Jack poo poo yet and he’s getting publicity as if he had. He’s just transferring stock to a corporation that he controls. He says that corporation is going to hand out grants, but I’ll believe he’s donating to worthy causes only if and when the money is received by a worthy cause.
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/jack/status/1247616214769086465 He's not giving it away he's transferring it to a LLC that he retains control over Platystemon posted:He hasn't done Jack poo poo yet and he's getting publicity as if he had. He donated $100,000 to a soup kitchen apparently! That's it.
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1B (28% of my wealth) is beautiful in a horrible and sickening way
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duz posted:whats great is due to how cities bid process works, often they have to pay for these cameras monthly and then use the fines to offset that meaning if there are no fines the city still has to pay the company running them so the city is the only one left holding the bag Ohio got grifted by these and ended up banning them in the state. All the intersections that had them were nightmares.
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Inceltown posted:https://twitter.com/jack/status/1247616214769086465 of course it will. even if he plays it straight and doesn't bend the rules or self-deal, donating $1 billion still means he has $3 billion sitting in investments that make him more money so far, Start Small's only donation has been 100k to a celebrity charity GoFundMe set up by Leonardo DiCaprio and Apple, which promises that it will donate its funds to meal distribution charities the spectacle of a charity donating to a charity that donates to charities definitiely fits in this thread
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Main Paineframe posted:so far, Start Small's only donation has been 100k to a celebrity charity GoFundMe set up by Leonardo DiCaprio and Apple, which promises that it will donate its funds to meal distribution charities Oh it's not even a soup kitchen like I thought, it's a charity that represents the concept of donating to soup kitchens, great.
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Also I'm sure Jack's idea of donating to help fight covid is funding idiot startup failsons and their employee tracking apps and theranos machines
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Shame Boy posted:Oh it's not even a soup kitchen like I thought, it's a charity that represents the concept of donating to soup kitchens, great. Look buddy, you can only spend money to actually help people once. But you can pump it around to make it look like you're helping people infinite times. I think it's clear what represents the greatest value proposition here.
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I'm really hoping it ends up primarily going to provide loans to small businesses because that's assistance and not investment clearly.
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Now that the CDC is recommending people wear masks, we've been sent an email telling us the mandatory Friday company-wide conference call happy hour this week is now a masquerade and we should wear our most fun mask.
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Shame Boy posted:Now that the CDC is recommending people wear masks, we've been sent an email telling us the mandatory Friday company-wide conference call happy hour this week is now a masquerade and we should wear our most fun mask. lmao At least you can have someone else go to the meeting for you now.
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Main Paineframe posted:of course it will. even if he plays it straight and doesn't bend the rules or self-deal, donating $1 billion still means he has $3 billion sitting in investments that make him more money lol that's so loving pathetic.
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The idea of charities giving to charities giving to charities is such an obvious way to circumvent the "only 5% of the money actually goes to the charitable work" issue that I'm ashamed I didn't expect this to be the norm.
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The T-man Pre-Memorial Fund will use its donation money to postpone the necessity of the T-man Memorial Fund.
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Apr 8, 2020 23:42
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A donation to The Human Fund has been made in your name!
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no pictures for various reasons but I have to say that I came across the phrase "COVID Revenue" today and  
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Sucks to be the insurance adjuster in 2003 who estimated a 1 in 70 chance that Wimbledon is cancelled by a pandemic.
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Chamale posted:Sucks to be the insurance adjuster in 2003 who estimated a 1 in 70 chance that Wimbledon is cancelled by a pandemic. It's tennis, they're going to net profit either way 
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Chamale posted:Sucks to be the insurance adjuster in 2003 who estimated a 1 in 70 chance that Wimbledon is cancelled by a pandemic. Ayyy the adjuster merely determines compensability and value of loss. The actuary assesses risk
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Well, ain't that swell.
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DisgracelandUSA posted:Well, ain't that swell. I mean, there's actually quite a swell coming from somewhere in that picture
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I mean insurance companies having to pay out on something I'm sure they assumed would just be free money forever is cool in a way 
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My soul has wireless charging, neat
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