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noctua even have 40x20mm and 40x10mm fans so you can make rackmount stuff quieter
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:lol i remember accidentally yanking a socket 939 cpu straight out of the socket when i was trying to pull off the heatsink. got lucky and didn't bend any pins though. yes, this is absolutely still a problem with the AM4 socket, it's a loving relic  that was a 3950x, it survived
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Apr 7, 2020 07:34
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okay but to be fair to amd whoever did that heatpaste is a monkey
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Apr 7, 2020 10:31
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It's just the preinstalled factory thermal paste, mine looked like that too. It was really fiddly to remove all that goop without damaging the pins even more. It's probably applied by a robot. https://i.imgur.com/cERKFnO.mp4
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Apr 7, 2020 11:28
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r u ready to WALK posted:i made a fan shroud in openscad, there's two 80mm fans behind it sucking hot air from the cpu out of the case fans aren't cumulative in series like that, they're just pushing on each other. it will perform just as well with a single fan either on the back of the heatsink under the shroud or on the exhaust port on the case pulling the air through the heatsink and in to the shroud
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Apr 7, 2020 13:29
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r u ready to WALK posted:noctua makes good stuff loving right they do. r u ready to WALK posted:It's just the preinstalled factory thermal paste, mine looked like that too. It was really fiddly to remove all that goop without damaging the pins even more. protip #2: wipe the thermal paste off the cpu while it's mounted in the socket. don't remove the cpu from the socket unless you've got a really good reason. give the heatsink a slight twist before pulling it up. the cpu won't budge in the zif socket, so the seal of thermal paste will break and you can remove the heatsink without pulling out the cpu alternative protip: buy a threadripper they don't ship with an oem heatsink and the latching mechanism screws down
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Apr 7, 2020 14:52
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:fans aren't cumulative in series like that, they're just pushing on each other. it will perform just as well with a single fan either on the back of the heatsink under the shroud or on the exhaust port on the case pulling the air through the heatsink and in to the shroud for whatever reason noctua actually sells push-pull kits for those tower coolers. i guess the reason is probably to sell more fans
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Apr 7, 2020 14:54
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I am a messy and clumsy idiot who drops and break things all the time and when I build a PC it's always in haphazard conditions and I never managed to ever bend a single cpu pin even on amds how the gently caress do you people manage that
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Apr 7, 2020 15:12
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Zlodo posted:I am a messy and clumsy idiot who drops and break things all the time and when I build a PC it's always in haphazard conditions and I never managed to ever bend a single cpu pin even on amds i'm guessing it's the same kind of people who, 20 years ago, were destroying motherboards by jamming screwdrivers through traces while trying to install amd heatsinks some people simply lack dexterity
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Apr 7, 2020 15:20
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eugh don't remind me how terrible those retaining clips used to be i never destroyed a motherboard but i've had plenty of scares with screwdrivers that slipped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf0VuRG7MN4
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Apr 7, 2020 16:11
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IIRC going with a PGA socket for AM4 was a concession to motherboard OEMs in case Ryzen turned out to be as big a flop as Bulldozer so they wouldn't be stuck trying to pay down the cost of LGA tooling using the miniscule profits from their poo poo tier boards that only AMD fanbois would end up buying anyways. AM5 should be an LGA socket like Intel because Ryzen has proven there's a big enough market for AMD boards that have decent profit margin to recoup the extra costs.
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r u ready to WALK posted:eugh don't remind me how terrible those retaining clips used to be thermaltake had some coolers that seemed all but designed to destroy either your board or the exposed cpu die. just stick a slotted screwdriver into this centimeter wide notch with no guards on the side and apply several pounds of force, it'll be fine infernal machines fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Apr 7, 2020 17:56
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i am glad i have only ever dinked around with CPUs that were in slot format or that came with sturdy heat spreaders. an exposed core sounds like the kind of thing i would fat-finger and crush
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Apr 7, 2020 20:33
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SRQ posted:okay but to be fair to amd whoever did that heatpaste is a monkey yeah that was just the pre-applied blob of paste on the wraith prism coolers they package with these chips
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Apr 8, 2020 00:52
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are monkeys good or bad at applying heat paste?
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Apr 8, 2020 07:03
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Vomik posted:are monkeys good or bad at applying heat paste? well they eat most of it and it only goes downhill from there
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Mr.Radar posted:IIRC going with a PGA socket for AM4 was a concession to motherboard OEMs in case Ryzen turned out to be as big a flop as Bulldozer so they wouldn't be stuck trying to pay down the cost of LGA tooling using the miniscule profits from their poo poo tier boards that only AMD fanbois would end up buying anyways. AM5 should be an LGA socket like Intel because Ryzen has proven there's a big enough market for AMD boards that have decent profit margin to recoup the extra costs. this makes sense the ryzen socket being end of life is the main reason i went for the cheapest threadripper instead. bought the cheapest motherboard ill get a better one when usb4 is widespread
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Apr 9, 2020 12:25
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infernal machines posted:for whatever reason noctua actually sells push-pull kits for those tower coolers. It can be somewhat beneficial if you don't have a shroud to guide the path of the air, but yeah for the most part they're just selling you more stuff that doesn't really help unless you're doing xxxtreme overclocking trying to drive 200W through the socket or whatever
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Apr 9, 2020 13:58
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computers are really quiet nowadays compared to the pentium 4 era. my mom used to make fun of my ~*~big loud computer~*~ and would just laugh when i tried to explain that the dumb thing actually did need all those whiny fans
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Apr 9, 2020 19:57
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You used to be able to chop carrots with Delta fans.
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Apr 9, 2020 21:27
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Lambert posted:You used to be able to chop carrots with Delta fans. yeah don't get your fingers near deltas
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Apr 9, 2020 21:48
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i fondly recall convincing my mom to paypal a stranger on the internet as part of a group buy of sanyo denki san ace fans because they were like the first good + not deafening fan
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multigl posted:yeah don't get your fingers near deltas delta, the fan manufacturer, used to make datacenter network switches (yes they used incredible shrieking delta fans for cooling)
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Apr 9, 2020 22:41
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Bloody posted:i fondly recall convincing my mom to paypal a stranger on the internet as part of a group buy of sanyo denki san ace fans because they were like the first good + not deafening fan hahaha, i totally forgot about the sales pitch i did when i wanted to buy computer stuff as a kid. every time i wanted to buy from a new place i did like an hour of research, so i could provide cross-checked references to mom or dad that yes, this store is real and won't steal your credit card number
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Apr 10, 2020 01:40
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lol if you didn’t go down to the computer show and do a real time price comparison between the vendors and pick your machine parts on the spot.
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Apr 10, 2020 02:07
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so, lol then
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Apr 10, 2020 05:46
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The Management posted:lol if you didn’t go down to the computer show and do a real time price comparison between the vendors and pick your machine parts on the spot. i grew up in a town of 900 people
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my household just bought prebuilt gateways and dells which I would trick out with a good graphics card and ram from Best Buy once they got slow, until Newegg came around and then I just bought from there related: the nvidia riva 128 might be the best bang for the buck graphics card I ever purchased. I ran that thing for so long and it kept up really well
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The Management posted:lol if you didn’t go down to the computer show and do a real time price comparison between the vendors and pick your machine parts on the spot. hell yeah got my first computer (AMD of course) at one of those
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Apr 10, 2020 16:43
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just go down to the barn where they're having the computer auction, stand in the sawdust jawing with other operators about their rigs and the price of soybeans, and and pick you out a nice healthy computer
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Apr 10, 2020 18:16
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:just go down to the barn where they're having the computer auction, stand in the sawdust jawing with other operators about their rigs and the price of soybeans, and and pick you out a nice healthy computer back when commodities prices were relatively lower they used to just auction pallets full of equipment. go in with some buds and get a literal truckload of old unix workstations for $500 nowadays there are huge scrappers that will take literally anything to try and extract gold / silver / copper
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Apr 10, 2020 19:52
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i grew up in a town of 900 people in 1400s europe
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Apr 10, 2020 23:13
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echinopsis posted:in 1400s europe in my day you didn't worry about any of this "plumbing" or "rideshare" razzmataz, you just dumped your filth out the window and beat the servants carrying your divan chair
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Apr 10, 2020 23:20
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:in my day you didn't worry about any of this "plumbing" or "rideshare" razzmataz, you just dumped your filth out the window and beat the servants carrying your divan chair martin luther did indeed write many words about his farts and poops. he was the original Poster
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Apr 11, 2020 01:26
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Lutha Mahtin posted:martin luther did indeed write many words about his farts and poops. he was the original Poster martin luther loved pretty ladies, strong beer, and a good fart joke earthy in a classic german sense
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Apr 11, 2020 04:09
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:martin luther loved pretty ladies, strong beer, and a good fart joke also antisemitism
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PCjr sidecar posted:also antisemitism Notorious b.s.d. posted:earthy in a classic german sense
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Apr 11, 2020 04:40
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ive never really gotten christians being anti jew given jesus was a jew and they are also gods chosen people but then again those kinds of christians believe jesus was white and also believe in an iron age god too
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echinopsis posted:ive never really gotten christians being anti jew given jesus was a jew and they are also gods chosen people gotta source your cringe quotes man
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fuckin lol
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