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Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



McGlockenshire posted:

Look at the brains on this guy.

I guess Boris Johnson is doing alright if he can post on freep from the ICU. Though with a British PM is doing on freep is anyone's guess.

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
The way freepers (and other right wing dipshits) shift from "We support ARE TROOPS!" to "They should keel-haul every one of those whining pussies" is really whiplash-inducing.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

FMguru posted:

The way freepers (and other right wing dipshits) shift from "We support ARE TROOPS!" to "They should keel-haul every one of those whining pussies" is really whiplash-inducing.

A GiP poster summarized this well: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3918896&pagenumber=19&perpage=40#post503913503

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Something this crisis is revealing is a mindset among many Americans that I've thought about previously, but hadn't quite put into words on paper.

There is a general sentiment among these people that "America is Great." If you ask them why, they'll of course rattle off a variety of platitudes—freedom, democracy, markets, ARE TROOPS, etc. But for the most part, the fact of America's Greatness is treated as a given, threatened only by ~the libs~, terrorists, and other extremely vague enemies.

There are many reasons, of course, why the United States is such a powerful, wealthy, and influential country: Two and a half centuries of expansion, reform, industry, and luck. It happened because people built systems that were refined over generations, often through bloodshed, whose benefits are now so taken for granted and spared so little thought that to the average person they may not exist at all—even if these systems have an immense impact on their daily lives.

But for the "America is Great" crowd, greatness is not a series of deeply interconnected systems and circumstances—greatness simply is, and even when they acknowledge those systems it's as an obstacle to further Greatness rather than an underpinning reason for it. The United States didn't win World War II through intense preparation, close cooperation between industry, the government, and labor, and the mass sacrifice and bloodshed of American, British, and (especially) Soviet blood—we did it because we were just that great. The United States didn't outlast the Soviet Union in the Cold War because the Soviet system was filled with deep, irreconcilable flaws dating back to the Stalin era and exposed by war, changing political winds, and economic crisis—it was because we were always destined to win, because we were great. And on, and on. And because greatness is a given, they don't have any interest in how it came to be or what it takes to maintain it—and they assume that no matter what they do, it will always be there—so long as a goddamn socialist doesn't get into office.

Nowhere is this more evident than in the response to COVID-19. A common question you often hear is "How could this happen? How could the richest and most powerful country on earth lack ventilators and protective equipment? How could we be so unprepared?" The answer, of course, is simple: We were unprepared because the administration, now almost entirely filled with loyalists to a man whose campaign slogan is "Keep America Great," did not believe preparation was necessary. They believed that the sheer fact that America was great would protect us and shepherd us through the crisis, with no expense or sacrifice required. And even now, as the crisis deepens, their focus isn't on saving lives and protecting the American people, without whom there would be no America—but on protecting "The economy," an arbitrary number made from imaginary dollars that, in their final sense, are mere pieces of paper or digits on a screen. Hundreds of thousands of may die, but they worked hard to protect what mattered—and after all, wouldn't millions more have died if America wasn't Great?

The firing of Captain Crozier, and the response by the Naval Secretary, is a microcosm of this attitude. Crozier, who has been a naval officer since before I was born, and in command of one of the most powerful warships ever built, recognized that each of his hundred thousand nuclear-powered tons of his vessel was worthless without the lives and health of his sailors. Faced with a crisis, he did what he had to do to protect his crew, temporarily ceasing operations to ensure the ship and her crew could regain combat status as quickly as possible while maintaining safety and morale. But in response he has been intensely criticized and removed from his post—not for not acting sooner and more decisively, but for "violating operational secrecy" and leaving our country open to exploitation by vague, undefined enemies. For in the minds of those who believe in America's inherent greatness, it does not matter how effective the ship is, or whether the crew lay dying of preventable disease—only that they do it out of sight, belowdecks, and that the ship remain sailing.

There is a quote I sometimes think about, one I've used before. In 1941, the British Army had lost the Battle of Crete. Tens of thousands of soldiers were stranded on that Mediterranean island, their only hope lying in an evacuation force protected by the ships of the Royal Navy. Sailing without air cover, the ships were hideously vulnerable to German air attack, and several warships were sunk. But at the height of the battle, when asked whether to call off the evacuation, Admiral Cunningham replied: "It takes the Navy three years to build a ship. It will take three hundred years to build a new tradition. The evacuation will continue."

In the end, three cruisers and six destroyers were sunk—but fifteen thousand men were rescued.

If you count from the Declaration of Independence (Though even that document has roots over a thousand years deep), it has taken nearly two hundred and fifty years to build America to what it is now: Three hundred and fifty million lives, connected together not just by lines on a map or pieces of paper but by a shared belief in the idea of America. They are what makes, and have always made, America 'Great' — if it ever truly was. But the people who believe in America's inherent greatness don't see that.

All they see is the ship.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's manifest destiny in a nutshell, we were put here by god to have this land and to be great because we deserve it. It never really went away.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

A lot of the manifest destiny folks at least connected it directly to the (white) people doing the settling and the murder.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
The Secretary of the Navy resigned, so I popped over to freep to find they hadn't heard yet.

Instead I found Quarantining the healthy? Why?, a vanity thread posted by freeper Swordmaker

OP posted:

It struck me today that what is completely different about what we are currently doing with the COVOD19 Virus is completely different from all other diseases of the past.

In the past when a pandemic occurred in history, health authorities in the past quarantined the SICK who threatened the healthy population.

That is not what we are doing today. Turning aside from what worked in the past, sequestering the ill and sick in their homes, providing the needs in a safe manner, our authorities, or at least the progressive versions of authorities that masquerade as our Health Authorities and experts, are forcing the quarantine of the HEALTHY people in our societies!!! The progressive media and politicians pile on people who dare to suggest anything less than what is being done that imposes less than the most severe shut down of normal commerce. People are threatened with fines and arrest for daring to stray from their cells, er, homes.

They are insisting that those who are HEALTHY must sequester themselves from anyone who may potentially be infected rather than the other way around. It is the majority who must cater to the minority, the actually ill, the ones who are the actually sick. The MOST we should be doing is protecting those most at risk.

The stage was set with political correct speech. The majority was required to kowtow to the sensibilities of a minuscule minority lest their feelings may get hurt by the majority using majority accepted pronouns be used in addressing them instead of their self-selected, but in-obvious choices of gender optional desires.

Now, it is the vast majority of healthy persons who are being required to sacrifice their freedom and economic well being by being forced into quarantine due to our politically correct unwillingness to temporarily sequester those who may be coming from area where there is a potential viral infestation. What makes that sensible?

At the extreme, we are requiring “essential” workers to remain at their jobs, receiving no more than what they normally would receive in recompense, while the rest of us benefit from extended vacations and receive a government stipend, while they “slave” to support us. In worst cases, some government “masters” are speaking of the “enforced” enlistment of medical workers to staff hospitals for those who are sick. . . and are sending out the National Guard to seize medical equipment from one part of their state’s population to benefit another.

The world has been turned topsy-turvy!

The thread itself is pretty boring, but about half the replies agree. The other half are "because people that don't have symptoms can still spread it, you idiot."

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The idea of contagion really encapsulates so much of their worldview, that everything bad is because of the sick, who must be eliminated before they can threaten the pure, who are somehow in constant danger from the sick even though they’re pure because of their moral rectitude, and you only get sick because of the democrats who don’t understand that sickness is immoral. And in his ideal world he’d be the first one into the plague pit because he’s so fat and old it’d be futile to keep him on a vent.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



McGlockenshire posted:

The Secretary of the Navy resigned, so I popped over to freep to find they hadn't heard yet.

Instead I found Quarantining the healthy? Why?, a vanity thread posted by freeper Swordmaker


The thread itself is pretty boring, but about half the replies agree. The other half are "because people that don't have symptoms can still spread it, you idiot."

Someone hit him with, "so how do you manage to get all of the sick? How do you make sure one doesn't slip through to continue compromising the healthy population?"

Don't give them the answer, just let them work their way to the grim fascist outcome.

Disclaimer: I am in no way suggesting anyone touch the poop. Merely making a rhetorical statement.

Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3832729/posts?q=1&;page=21

That's the resignation thread. Basically, we've always hated Modly, good riddance.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

McGlockenshire posted:

The Secretary of the Navy resigned, so I popped over to freep to find they hadn't heard yet.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3832727/posts

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Can we find anybody who was pro-Modly switching to anti-Modly as soon as he resigns?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

They'll hate him now, because he resigned, that means he's a loser, and conservatives hate losers.

They love big strong men, which they define as never admitting you're wrong and doubling down endlessly forever.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

This incident happening is really honestly amazing, The SoN obviously felt like this decorated captain needed to hammered down pegs out of straight up jealousy. Can't wait to see freep switch back to being anti-navy f-son

quote:


I hope the brass demonstrated they were just as concerned with the conditions on the ship as they were with the leak to the press.

If I were a crewman, I would like to see some mention of that, too, besides the kneejerk freakout about the press leak.



The BRASS

These peoples idea of the military is a jack off glory venture where HEROES of the battlefield and $Chains of Command$ are full of golden folk who make haste decisions when transformers or cylons attack

WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Apr 7, 2020

Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

Fauci: Country should be in 'good shape' to reopen schools in the fall

quote:

To: yesthatjallen
Go to Hell!!

Devil Worshipin
Satanic Inspired,
Kommunist Klown!!!


11 posted on 4/7/2020, 5:37:08 PM by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
It is sort of refreshing for them to call out someone who is working for Trump's administration before they're fired.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
The deep state is insidious and all pervasive. It's even in the people Trump likes!

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

I know "a freedom-based state government" really just means "Republicans in charge", but it's still a hilariously stupid sounding phrase.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

I don't know if anyone reads the site closely enough to notice this (I certainly don't and I wouldn't blame anyone else here for not doing so) but I wonder have any of the more active freepers mysteriously stopped posting over the last few weeks? Bit of a callous observation to request, I know, but I'm curious as to when or whether this has started to hit home for any of them yet.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Cactus posted:

I don't know if anyone reads the site closely enough to notice this (I certainly don't and I wouldn't blame anyone else here for not doing so) but I wonder have any of the more active freepers mysteriously stopped posting over the last few weeks? Bit of a callous observation to request, I know, but I'm curious as to when or whether this has started to hit home for any of them yet.

The peak will be the first week of May for most of the country. Keep your eyes open in the next few weeks, though.

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
Boris Johnson out of ICU amid Coronavirus battle, in 'good spirits,' spokesman says

quote:

To: SeekAndFind
No surprise. He is under age 60 and in good health.
covid-19 is powerless to kill suchpeople.


2 posted on 4/9/2020, 2:49:39 PM by entropy12 (You are either for free enterprise or want gov't to guarantee your wages.)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind
Gee, I wonder what drug they gave him....

Stats seem to indicate that using a vent on a person with the virus is not a good idea. Limbaugh was talking about that.

People need to get real, a$$holes who think it’s A-OK to butcher humans in the womb don’t give a drat about anything but themselves. We have some real evil devoids in America.


3 posted on 4/9/2020, 2:50:46 PM by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)

quote:

To: mmichaels1970
Trump sent over a plane load of specialists.


15 posted on 4/9/2020, 3:01:13 PM by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)

quote:

To: canuck_conservative
Prayers work. I hope those @$$holes are surprised now.
Did not God tell Lot that he would spare Sodom and Gomorrah if he could find but 10 righteous souls?

I think the man upstairs has spared PM Johnson and possibly our nation as well for the prayers of the righteous.

17 posted on 4/9/2020, 3:03:19 PM by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)

A bonus one from another thread:

quote:

To: TexasGurl24
Someone on Twitter posted a split-screen of when the 1st person came over with the virus from China and when Pelosi sent the Impeachment Articles to the Senate (Jan 15th.).
Most of this pandemic is coordinated by the Dems/RINOs/Deep State and Globalists, to stop Trump’s rallies and crash his economy.


14 posted on 4/9/2020, 7:06:18 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

No! Not the rallies!

Xiahou Dun
Jul 16, 2009

We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.



Yes god sparing America except for the... 16,300+ dead and counting in the US as of my googling this. Getting right up next to 100,000 worldwide.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Ron Paul calls on Trump or 'the people' to fire Fauci (“he’s a fraud”)

There's some high quality :ironicat: going on here.

quote:

To: rintintin

Fauci didn’t do anything. The governors are the ones restricting liberty. Wrong target.

3 posted on 04/09/2020 11:43:54 PM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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quote:

To: rintintin

Blind Squirrel Nut Theory. Communist Theory: the right tool at the right time. Time to clamp this BS down.

4 posted on 04/09/2020 11:45:01 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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Hi Kit Cat! :waves:

quote:

To: Helicondelta

Fauci’s phony BS models that millions of people would die is WHY the governors closed down their states, 4 days ago this ASSHAT stood at the podium and said that even WITH the mitigation in place that 100,000 - 200,000 would die NOW today this ASSHAT says well MAYBE 60,000 deaths!! The whole drat country was shut down because of Fauci he is responsible for EVERYTHING!!

7 posted on 04/09/2020 11:49:14 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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quote:

To: a fool in paradise

I will NEVER get a vaccination for this NEVER!!!

9 posted on 04/09/2020 11:55:05 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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quote:

To: Hoosier-Daddy

I despise Fauci. Problem is, he has an 80% approval from the idiots in this country, thanks mostly to the media. I blame Trump and Pence for his popularity as well for letting him talk every day and going on every news show around (at least until today when Pence said no to CNN). Can’t stand Birx either.

13 posted on 04/10/2020 12:02:59 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America)
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quote:

To: Helicondelta

Faux-chi is a deep state Hillary rear end kissing fraud who has been wrong about everything. Everything.

Trump needs to fire him a month ago. Him and that idiot Dumb-as Brix. They are both incompetent lying fools who are destroying our liberty and our country.

15 posted on 04/10/2020 12:09:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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quote:

To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Ron Paul is no idiot - he was way ahead of his time, saying unpopular stuff that needed to be said.

19 posted on 04/10/2020 12:16:09 AM PDT by enumerated
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quote:

To: rintintin

Little Napoleon fame whore has gotta go! TV fame has gone to this *((*&&%^$ head! He has a super duper Federale retirement that awaits him. Retire down to FL and discuss viruses with your new pet parrot.

20 posted on 04/10/2020 12:19:03 AM PDT by dennisw
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:tinfoil:

quote:

To: Helicondelta

Do a background on Fauci and his connections to Clintons, Gates, Tedros the Mad Man of the WHO.

Then watch how he continually pushes vaccines over treatments that are saving hundreds and hundreds of lives and growing every week.

Paul has him pegged right.

I hate to see anyone lose their job but federal bureaucrats have become fat (if not in body, in head) and cocky over the last three to four decades.

A a minimum Fauci should be made to attend his offices and stay out of the task force conferences or at least scaled back to say once a week.

I respect POTUS trying to present a united front but the reality is we have some really bad people in government right now that floated to the top over the Clinton-Bush-Obama years = 24 years.

Over my long life full of diverse experiences I’ve worked along side fed managers and directors and was offered a fairly high level position but declined. I have never seen the fed workforce so outrageous in their attitudes and behavior as I see them today.

Fauci is just a symptom.

22 posted on 04/10/2020 12:23:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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quote:

To: rintintin

IMHO......The Communist Chinese, The USA Democrat Party, The World Health Organization, Barack Hussein Obama, Joe Biden, his son Hunter Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer...etc., are all in together to bring down the USA and the rest of the nations of this world to bow to the desires and whims of the CHINA PRC, Communist dictatorship!!!

The PRC could care less about losing (killing) ten or twenty million of its own people as it spreads its deadly virus across the world.

As for Democrats....”desperate people do desperate things”...and the USA Democrat Party will do anything to get rid of POTUS, Donald J. Trump, If Trump wins re-election...face it, the Democrat Party is dead politically.

Killing 500,000 to 1,000,000 Americans means nothing to Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Sanders, Schumer and their lock step hate America media!!! Wise up Americans...time for you to destroy the entire “Traitor” Democrat Party....forever. If not, the Democrat Party will destroy you, your family, your future!!!

And Senator, Rand Paul is right on the money...fingering the two Prancing Clinton loving doctors who never worked a honest day in their entire lives, other then to kiss the butts of Hillary Clinton and other Democrats...the two of them have lied to the American people everytime they open their mouths...period!!!

24 posted on 04/10/2020 12:58:13 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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quote:

To: Nifster

it wasn’t just the USA that got punked

but it all is eerily similar to the Gates/UN cabal’s event 201

30 posted on 04/10/2020 1:50:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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Did somebody say Hydroxychloroquine?

quote:

To: Helicondelta

Creepy how resistant Fauci is about encouraging hospitals to try malaria drugs on patients who have near nothing else to lose yet he’s constantly going on about vaccines which are at least a year away from being made.

35 posted on 04/10/2020 2:48:07 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

As I. and remember, don't shake anyones hand.

My dad and grandfather would roll over in their grave if I up and quick shaking hands. The only time you did not shake someones hand was when you did not like them.

This lil effin imp can pound sand

38 posted on 04/10/2020 3:03:39 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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quote:

To: rintintin

Fauci needs to go NOW, he is a Hillary buddy and has teamed up with Bill Gates and that New World Order crowd...If Trump doesn’t dump Fauci I suspect he will not be reelected. Fauci wants a vaccine and that may take years and doesn’t want the economy open till one is forced on people.

40 posted on 04/10/2020 3:20:21 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

I saw a Ron Paul reference somewhere in there

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1249834932513505280

There were like five threads on today's coronavirus presser. All of them were full of praise for this performance, with posts like "this is what I voted for" and so on and so forth.

I want you to watch that video and listen to what he says, and think about what freep would have said if it was Obama, not Trump.

This is hellworld, and I hate it. I hate everything. I want it all to end.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
I hate myself, so here's It Begins – East and West Coast Blue States Team Up To Begin Economic Civil War… posted by freeper Politically Correct.

It's a piece of poo poo "article" from Conservative Treehouse. It reviews the two pacts created by east coast and west coast states to coordinate their continued responses to the virus. Here's a snippet.

:barf: posted:

It appears the Governors did not want to assemble their plans openly; however, they rushed to publicity to avoid their enemy, U.S. President Donald Trump, striking strategically against their schemes. During this economic war residents within the Blue occupied territories will be held captive to the political whims of their regional generals.

The economic freedom and liberty zone will encompass the Red region. The center of the country, mid west, southern region (surrounding the Gulf of Mexico) and south eastern Atlantic region. These areas will be open to commerce and economic freedom.

However, the urban dense populations (Blue pockets within Red zones) will push-back against the efforts of the Red generals in an attempt to retain alignment with their Blue team generals. Depending on the strength of the urban forces there may be roadblocks, sabotage, skirmishes and political violence against the freedom & liberty Red team.

Red captives within the Blue zones will have to be smart and strategic. Big Blue tech will be assisting the totalitarian Blue generals. Direct confrontation against the Blue forces should be avoided, and it will likely be a better strategy to fight stealthily as insurgents.

Any Red team member of the economic freedom alliance, trapped within a Blue region, is warned to evaluate their connection to their electronic devices. Your cell phones could be used as portable transponders expose your movement and your political views.

This is going to be one hell of a battle. A Spring and Summer conflict like we’ve never seen in the history of U.S. politics outside of actual, physical, civil war. Fortunately for team freedom and liberty, this time the Red zones control most of the citizen armory.

Here comes the big brains.

quote:

To: Politically Correct

They are playing Donald's game and will lose.

As long as they open up the economy, Trump will get the credit, because they won't beat him to the start.

3 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:22:04 PM by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)

They live in ignorance of objective reality, like the reason for the quarantine and what will happen if it's lifted before herd immunity is established.

quote:

To: G Larry

if Trump says May 1 we open, these leftard clowns will say June 1. Trump is dealing with pouty children..

11 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:29:02 PM by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy them crying)

Don't give the supersoldiers any ideas, dummy.

quote:

To: Politically Correct

I can imagine Antifa thugs trying to shut down economic activity in red states.

12 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:29:08 PM by Steve_Seattle

Yeah okay sure

quote:

To: magna carta

I predict a lot of blue state governors will have to bump up their security, because there will be a lot of angry peasants coming for their hides.

14 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:29:20 PM by Old Yeller (Under construction)

There'll be piles of residents all right.

quote:

To: DarthVader

Play games... Trump pulls your funding.

Texas and Florida pile up new residents who want to work.

24 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:39:09 PM by rwilson99 (How exactly would John 3:16 not apply to Mary?)

States rights to do what exactly?

quote:

To: Politically Correct

As a constitutionalist and conservative and defender of the tenth amendment I will never budge from my position for 🇺🇸🇺🇸STATES RIGHTS! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

28 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:39:49 PM by AmericanInTokyo (When FReepers start to lose relatives (or themselves) to C-19, FOXNews ratingsÂ’ll be in big trouble)

The signature here just absolutely slays me.

quote:

To: G Larry

quote:

They are playing Donald's game and will lose.

I'm thinking (and praying) you could be right about that...
Economics is Trumps game.. These people (his adversaries) are mostly a bunch of stinking lawyers.. What you'll get in the blue states a lot of stinking laws that will mostly benefit the elites themselves.. They can't help it, it's their nature.. They will always check their own pockets first...
It'll be the red states that will recover long before the commies do...

38 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:50:41 PM by unread (A REPUBLIC..! if you can keep it....)

lol k

quote:

To: Politically Correct

It’s known as a confederation against one or several states. Also, it’s ILLEGAL.

40 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:54:24 PM by DownInFlames (Galsd)

quote:

To: Politically Correct

Yes, those states rely much more on foreign imports, tourism and anti-American trade policies. They’ve been mad about President Trump getting elected all along.

Let those states shut down their parasite economies. They’ve only been driving up the debts anyway (balance of payments deficits in trade). We need to try harder to make and grow more useful products in the more conservative states (not including dope, of course) to decouple from the evil anti-American elements of the economy. Every smart worker should be saving, planning and designing production businesses. It’s a matter of survival for bad times to come anyway.

44 posted on 4/13/2020, 5:00:08 PM by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")

Good luck with that.

quote:

To: Politically Correct

The bread basket states should stop delivering food to these anti-Free-America leftist lunatic losers . That would be a “laugh”.

49 posted on 4/13/2020, 5:10:16 PM by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)

Yup let's unquarnatine all the rural counties and just let the virus kill'em all. Sounds like a great plan to me.

quote:

To: Politically Correct

The transition ought to be by county as the rural counties have no reason to be quarantined - never should have been forced to quarantine. Of course there are some Democrat governors who might decide to rule by fiat over the entire state. That might backfire, as it is exactly this type of bullying that prompted the Tea Party movement and which elected DJT as POTUS.

58 posted on 4/13/2020, 5:20:57 PM by Gumdrop

These dense motherfuckers do not understand what projections are and how they change based on data and actions, and it fills me with dread and despair.

quote:

To: Politically Correct

Comrade Kate threatened 45,000 deaths in Oregon and we have had around 50. She is a Communist dictator.

59 posted on 4/13/2020, 5:30:37 PM by bray (Pray for President Trump)

Yeah, look, you're right. Things are gonna get loving wild, but how are you incapable of understanding the consequences of lifting the quarantine orders?

quote:

To: Politically Correct

I like Conservative Tree House a lot but I disagree with their analysis. With summer coming up the Schiaff has hit the fan. People with summer properties need to rent them. People with summer businesses want to open them up.

School taxes and real estate taxes are due this month in lots of districts. Citizens are wondering when schools, parks and playgrounds will open up. The lock down has cost the states lots of lost tax revenue.

When the weather gets nice it will be almost impossible to maintain the quarantine. With no bread and circuses things could get ugly. The govs know they better start opening things up.

The governors blinked and Trump won another round. This is their only chance to save face and take credit.

65 posted on 4/13/2020, 5:56:03 PM by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

Post the freep tears from the Wisconsin GOP losing seats when their plan to have elections despite the pandemic status backfired on them.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:

Post the freep tears from the Wisconsin GOP losing seats when their plan to have elections despite the pandemic status backfired on them.

quote:

Kelly has apparently conceded. Drops the conservative majority down to 4 seats to 3.
1 posted on 4/13/2020, 8:32:16 PM by DoodleDawg

quote:

To: bjcoop
how did they blow this one?
Didn't delay the election would be my guess.

5 posted on 4/13/2020, 8:35:45 PM by DoodleDawg

quote:

To: DoodleDawg
Is this a sign of things to come? Seems we keep losing races! Sad and drat!! The rats are on a tear!


6 posted on 4/13/2020, 8:35:56 PM by RoseofTexas

quote:

To: DoodleDawg
Should fight it down to walking each vote to the voter and asking them if this is their ballot.


15 posted on 4/13/2020, 8:49:55 PM by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of the Great King!!!)

quote:

To: MinorityRepublican
Bernie stayed in just to affect the outcome in this race.


19 posted on 4/13/2020, 8:55:43 PM by TexasGurl24

quote:

To: drjimmy
Had a lot to do with George SoreAss’s money and Eric Holder.


24 posted on 4/13/2020, 9:06:27 PM by CMailBag

quote:

To: virgil
Never got mine. Was stolen from me by a usps democrat employee.Madison had early voting before the lock down,no other city did. This will be going to court.


35 posted on 4/13/2020, 9:22:47 PM by securityman

quote:

To: bjcoop
Judging by a lot of posts here, Republicans were probably hiding behind their fortresses of toilet paper and hand sanitizer didn’t bother to get out and vote.


41 posted on 4/13/2020, 10:47:46 PM by Kenny Bania (Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)

quote:

To: CondorFlight
Well, you get what you vote for (and deserve it...)
No American deserves voter fraud. Even the stupidest among us.

43 posted on 4/13/2020, 11:14:16 PM by Bullish (Covfefe Happens)

quote:

To: DoodleDawg
The GOP is going to lose massively this election. They have no fight in them and seem to give elections away as the left finds a vote anywhere they look. President Trump needs certain states to be re-elected and it’s not looking good. The left smells blood after they crushed the economy,blame everything and anything on Trump and some “red” states and blue states going for him are seriously shaky. I am not even so sure about keeping the Senate and forget the House. The GOP needs to get its head out of its posterior.


45 posted on 4/13/2020, 11:37:42 PM by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The Dems stole my ballot!

Pontius Pilate
Jul 25, 2006

Crucify, Whale, Crucify

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The Dems stole my ballot!

They could probably tell he was a god fearing conservative because he had an American name like John.

saneish freeper? posted:


As a constitutionalist and conservative and defender of the tenth amendment I will never budge from my position for 🇺🇸🇺🇸STATES RIGHTS! 🇺🇸🇺🇸

28 posted on 4/13/2020, 4:39:49 PM by AmericanInTokyo (When FReepers start to lose relatives (or themselves) to C-19, FOXNews ratingsÂ’ll be in big trouble)


And based on this one’s signature I think they’re just disagreeing with the thread narrative in approved ways and that subtlety is probably why they’ve survived the zot. Though it seems like there’s one or two freepers who kinda get it per thread, or have they been zotted by now, or are dead? And I’m probably giving them too much credit since their signature also includes “ratingsÂ’ll”

Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Apr 14, 2020

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Pontius Pilate posted:

And I’m probably giving them too much credit since their signature also includes “ratingsÂ’ll”

Isn't that just your browser not using the same ASCII scheme as freerepublic.com

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

VitalSigns posted:

Isn't that just your browser not using the same ASCII scheme as freerepublic.com

No, that's freerepublic dot com not using the same character set at freerepublic dot com. Specifically, that's the mojibake you get when you take a UTF-8 encoded fancyass apostrophe and display it as ISO-8859-1.

Now that we have today's character encoding lesson out of the way, here's WE NEVER NEEDED TO FLATTEN THE CURVE posted by freeper Hojczyk

The thrust of the lovely article from "Power Line" is that because all those early projections were wrong, it was never necessary to actually close down the country, because clearly the hospitals were never in any danger. The problem is that those projections were of the "if we continue to do nothing, then it'll look like this," and then later "if we continue to do very little, then it'll look like this," and then later "now that we are doing things, it'll look like this," and now "we've done this so far, now it'll look like this."

I don't know what is so wrong with these people that they can't understand this. The only conclusion that I can make is that they're intentionally misunderstanding it in order to feed their narrative.

Time to dive in and make myself really angry.

quote:

To: Hojczyk

Maybe it is all those years of mathematics. But I asked a simple question at the time: If the peak is a hill and not Mount Everest or even a mountain at all, then does it even need flattening?

I get it, we didn’t know the amplitude. But as we gathered more data and it became apparent, it also became apparent that the lockdown mania was a sham.

4 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:26:17 AM by FlipWilson

quote:

To: Hojczyk

They pull a bate and switch.... Healthcare Capacity..... to the lockdown saved lives... Now eople are scared to death..for no reason...... they have not proved it saved lives .... it may have saved a few but to destroy the economy.. And it is not coming back fast with 50 governors running the show

8 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:29:26 AM by Hojczyk

ahahahahahah

quote:

To: bert

So just have to ask the men here. How many times has your wife or girlfriend refused any interaction. I’m up to 4 now.

12 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:34:56 AM by freebird5850 (The only way I can treat this fever....More cowbell!)

Postin' this just for the first few words.

quote:

To: Hojczyk

Im jiggy with the shutdown through April, to help the medical system cope with this new disease, give FEMA and the states time to gear up, give time for research and coming up with treatment protocols ....the later you can wait to be infected, the more effective will be the treatment you get

Maybe also into May in NY, as we slide down the other side of the huge curve there

I want my doctor to be able to phone in a prescription for hydroxy and a zpac....pretty much what is happening now in several other countries

15 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:35:41 AM by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)

lol sweden

quote:

To: Hojczyk

Well said...it’s just the flu, bro.

Sweden’s situation very similar to every other country’s situation even though they didn’t social distance - so why do it?

19 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:37:40 AM by impimp

I hope you get the virus and die before you can spread it to anyone else, you piece of poo poo.

quote:

To: Don Corleone

I will not take any CV vaccine and neither will my family. We are healthy and have no fear of this. If I wasn’t healthy I would also have no fear of it.

20 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:38:57 AM by impimp

I am going to beat this freeper to death with a ventilator. Did they just, like, not pay attention to what happened in Italy!?

quote:

To: Hojczyk

Hinderacker further writes “During last year’s flu season, according to the CDC, 490,561 people in the U.S. were hospitalized due to the seasonal flu virus. The prior year, it was 810,000 flu hospitalizations. This explains why, as we noted here, America’s hospitals have not been overwhelmed by the number of Wuhan flu sufferers, not even in New York City.”

Take a look at #FilmYourHospital for citizen-filmed evidence that hospitals across the country are not busy except in NYC.

29 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:46:08 AM by ProtectOurFreedom

why we are hosed.txt

quote:

To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Whatever the correct strategy was for completely tanking the entire US, no global economy, what seems abundantly clear at this moment is that Democrats and their corrupt MSM partners have a vested interest in keeping America shut down.

Once the robust Trump economy was terminated Trump’s strongest campaign plank was removed. And now, the media and Democrats prey on abject fear of the populace to keep everything locked down. Democrats can now easily frame EVERYTHING as safety and protecting people. The move, especially among Dem governors to reopen their states will be as slow as they can politically get away with. THe longer they can hamstring the economy, the better chance they have of getting Trump. This is their clear strategy.

39 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:53:58 AM by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)

"models of millions of deaths that were put out were ludicrous to anyone with a basic knowledge of historical pandemics" like idk the 1918 flu that killed millions?

quote:

To: bert

The article is 100% correct and sounds like it could’ve been cut and pasted from my posts on FR over the past few weeks based on my extensive reading and research on the COVID-19 phenomenon. We WERE told the shutdown needed to happen to avoid “overwhelming” the hospitals. At least at first, then the rationale and goalposts kept moving to find any reason to keep the shutdown going.

As he says, the goal was NOT to reduce overall deaths because this is scientifically impossible. When people do not develop immunity, they will catch the virus once the shutdown ends, just at a different time and place.

Places that have not been shutdown as much or at all are not seeing massive surges in the virus compared to those that are shut down.

The insane models of millions of deaths that were put out were ludicrous to anyone with a basic knowledge of historical pandemics and mathematics from the beginning. They have proven in this pandemic to be absolute hysterical exaggerations as well.

Shutdowns as they are being used right now are junk science. They are not proven to accomplish anything. Public officials seem to constantly change the reasons they think shutdowns are necessary. But the original reason about avoiding hospital crowding had little relevance in the beginning and absolutely no relevance now that hospital capacity has been greatly expanded and the virus’s lethality has come in far under the early dire predictions.

42 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:57:43 AM by JediJones (We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)

quote:

To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Either the virus was not as bad as the Leftists said, or PT’s leadership dramatically lowered the death rate. Those are the only 2 option, both bad for the Dem's. I think it is 2.

48 posted on 4/14/2020, 9:02:34 AM by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Hopefully this one'll be less infuriating. Wisconsin. What Happened? is a vanity thread posted by freeper KC Burke

OP posted:

What the heck happened? A leftist State Supreme Court Justice?

Who stole what. ?!!!!!!

Tell me what happened

The other candidate was the incumbent, by the way.

quote:

To: KC Burke

Maybe the other candidate sucked.

2 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:36:06 AM by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)

quote:

To: KC Burke

Mail-in fraud.

3 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:36:54 AM by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)

s/one/won/, but yeah.

quote:

To: KC Burke

The idea of holding the election as planned in the expectation that the voter turnout would be suppressed enough to guarantee the Republican one seems to have backfired. That’s pretty much what happened.

8 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:38:25 AM by DoodleDawg

Ah yes, it was the liberals that did this, not the Democratic governor trying to do anything he could to delay the election or switch to 100% vote by mail and being told to gently caress off by the Republican legislature.

quote:

To: DoodleDawg

quote:

The idea of holding the election as planned in the expectation that the voter turnout would be suppressed enough to guarantee the Republican one seems to have backfired.

It appears that the Democrats in Madison and Milwaukee went out to vote despite Social Distancing rules. Those are large cities in Wisconsin and those liberal voters risked the lives of other people just to get out and vote.

12 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:41:54 AM by Meatspace

quote:

To: KC Burke

Most of you don’t believe in vote fraud. So that means that I can’t explain it to you.

21 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:52:04 AM by Revel

Freepers:

quote:

To: Trump.Deplorable

quote:

It shows that their side is determined.

It only shows that they are determined to cause people at the polls to die.

27 posted on 4/14/2020, 9:00:52 AM by Meatspace

Good lord these people are dumb. The results were delayed because the state allowed absentee voters to mail their ballots the day of the election, and sometimes it takes the mail a while to arrive. Releasing partial results wouldn't be helpful, so they didn't.

quote:

To: cotton1706

When they don’t have the tally done immediately....you KNOW the Republican WON and now the REAL vote fraud goes into effect!

28 posted on 4/14/2020, 9:00:55 AM by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)

"ANY FAILURE OF MY FAVORED CANDIDATE IS FRAUD"

quote:

To: zeestephen

Wisconsin has same day registration. That is a sure way to steal an election. New Hampshire does too. Trump should have won NH.

34 posted on 4/14/2020, 9:18:08 AM by lone star annie

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
We need to flatten the curve by staying inside!

* Stays inside, curve flattens. *

Freepers: SEE?! THE CURVE WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE FLAT! STAYING INSIDE WAS USELESS! LIBURRRRRRAAALLLLSSSSS

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

quote:

It appears that the Democrats in Madison and Milwaukee went out to vote despite Social Distancing rules. Those are large cities in Wisconsin and those liberal voters risked the lives of other people just to get out and vote.

12 posted on 4/14/2020, 8:41:54 AM by Meatspace

wow

who is this performance for, even his fellow freepers aren't buying it,

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
As a native texan lemme just be clear that when the blue forces amass, I'm joining up and I will relish burning down Dallas and Houston.

(instead of Sherman's March to the Sea it'll be mass disinfection after Greg Abbott turns the state into an infected wasteland)

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

McGlockenshire posted:

I am going to beat this freeper to death with a ventilator. Did they just, like, not pay attention to what happened in Italy!?

I will take him and stick his hand in a deep fryer Jesus Crust that is awfully stupid.

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

As a native texan lemme just be clear that when the blue forces amass, I'm joining up and I will relish burning down Dallas and Houston.

(instead of Sherman's March to the Sea it'll be mass disinfection after Greg Abbott turns the state into an infected wasteland)

Dallas and Houston are blue nerd. All the Texas metros are.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

As a native texan lemme just be clear that when the blue forces amass, I'm joining up and I will relish burning down Dallas and Houston.

(instead of Sherman's March to the Sea it'll be mass disinfection after Greg Abbott turns the state into an infected wasteland)

I don't think you've ever actually been to Texas if you think they're the problem lol.

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Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
They are not good cities though.

"I love Dallas"-no one

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