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GotLag posted:the A in ABC doesn't stand for New Zealand Auckland Broadcast Corporation
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How China weaponized its supply chainquote:Damningly, while President Xi Jinping tried to suppress the pandemic brewing in Wuhan, his senior advisors conspired to weaponize China’s medical supply chain by draining high-quality medical supplies from Western sources, flooding desperate ones with bad equipment, and controlling a global position in pharmaceutical manufacturing. This represents a whole new unimaginable concept for Canadian foreign policy to contend with: weaponized medicine. China Customs press release detailing the volume of PPE imported from overseas in January. To give you some sense of scale, between Jan 24th & Feb 24th customs inspected and released "2.02 billion pieces of prevention and control materials, valued at 6.53 billion yuan: 1.97 billion protective items, including 1.63 billion masks, 18.62 million pieces of protective clothing, 3.56 million pairs of goggles; 13.55 million pieces of sterilized items; 4.39 million pieces of medical equipment (799,000 were infrared thermometers) & 21.23 million other prevention and control materials." Fuzhou Daily (pure CCP Propaganda) article detailing United Front Workers, international students & employees from a myriad of Chinese-state companies abroad purchasing PPE and shipping it back to mainland China. Both of these are official sources from the CCP. Whether or not they deliberately suppressed and continue to suppress the true number of victims in China is, IMO, less relevant than direct evidence that they set out to create an artificial shortage of medical supplies worldwide beginning in January. Rime fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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I wish that there was a primary source to verify the claim that the CCP actively conspired to drain Western PPE and supply lovely ones in return because that is a bold claim even when talking about the CCP. It seems more likely to me that this is the result of a combination of the WHO loving up by uncritically repeating Chinese propaganda for two months, convincing Western governments that the spread was contained so that they could safely donate PPE, and garden variety chabuduo and CCP incompetence.
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Canada donated PPE and China kept both it and our hostage citizens with a smile.
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There are plenty of examples in the article of China being absolute contemptible poo poo heads striping the shelves. Engagement has failed, decoupling has been a long time coming.
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good article to link when you come across a "it's not china's fault, could have happened anywhere!" guy, from a non insane source https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-wildlife-idUSKBN20A0RK
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Rime posted:Both of these are official sources from the CCP. Whether or not they deliberately suppressed and continue to suppress the true number of victims in China is, IMO, less relevant than direct evidence that they set out to create an artificial shortage of medical supplies worldwide beginning in January. Is that what it actually says?
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I read somewhere test kits from China tested positive to the virus as in they're contaminated with it lmao
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Well,  Big Cannon Renhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...19a9_story.html Washington Post posted:An outspoken Beijing property tycoon who wrote an essay blaming Chinese President Xi Jinping and the Communist Party’s “crisis of governance” for the coronavirus outbreak has been placed under investigation, party authorities announced late Tuesday in their latest move to silence and punish voices critical of their response to the epidemic.
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Did WHO have any specific TCM recommendations for Covid-19, or am I imagining that was something that happened?
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Beachcomber posted:Did WHO have any specific TCM recommendations for Covid-19, or am I imagining that was something that happened? As I recall their some of their Chinese language documentation mentioned it as possible treatment (like as a holistic/general health thing) while it was gone from the English versions.
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Rime posted:How China weaponized its supply chain Very curious, a country with a massive epidemic importing PPE. Why would that be? I guess we'll never know.
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lol RIme's a proponent of eugenicsRime posted:Discarding eugenics last century was a deathblow mistake for the entire species, is what I'm saying.
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sticksy posted:Well, I mean F but also, how stupid can you be doing this in China
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His connections made him invincible until they didn't
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lilbeefer posted:This link doesn't seem to load for me it doesn't seem like a huge amount actually and to think it was done to screw other people over instead out of 'oh god we need everything right now' is nonsensical Fat Jesus posted:I read somewhere test kits from China tested positive to the virus as in they're contaminated with it lmao given that the virus survives for a max of 3 days in lab conditions on surfaces this would seem unlikely if not impossible
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Mozi posted:given that the virus survives for a max of 3 days in lab conditions on surfaces this would seem unlikely if not impossible Assuming there's even a grain of truth to it, it's probably the same bullshit that had people repeating it was found for up to a month on a cruise ship. Remnants of the virus can be detected for quite a while. Nothing even remotely infectious, but it was there once. GotLag posted:lol RIme's a proponent of eugenics Rime is a misanthrope who is probably feeling a bit light headed from a four month priapism. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Jeoh posted:Very curious, a country with a massive epidemic importing PPE. Why would that be? I guess we'll never know. it's the country where tons of that stuff is manufactured for domestic and export use, they were already sitting on more of it than they could ever need. there are some truly hosed videos out there of people hitting up western retail stores and buying stuff by the pallet load, gloating about how they're not leaving anything for anyone else. it's basically the same networks that buy out that baby milk powder and luxury goods but weaponized
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Cheesemaster200 posted:I don't know if this was posted before, but goddamn: Yeah, it's equal parts hilarious and horrifying. Shows how desperate the WHO is to retain the China money. I posted it in the China thread, but the US donates 3x as much, and could cough up another third and say, "Just loving forget China's opinions". The fact that the WHO wasn't able to accurately report what was happening in China is proof enough (IMO) that the "benefit" of having people in China isn't worth it. If only there was some giant glaring example of why you should not take official Chinese statements at face value.  Can't really blame the guy on the other end too much, as going against the CCP could have some serious repercussions, "Undermining the state" or something like that.  ok, this is the China thread.
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What benefit to China is having the WHO under it's thumb? I mean you could argue international prestige, but the CCP gives no fucks about being considered a healthy, or clean country. Then there is maybe the spiteful reason of keeping Taiwan out, thus denying them respectability/legitimacy, and you know medical help from a global body. Then there is what is happening now, where the WHO gives a global voice, and the veneer of truth to the CCP's attempts to cover up their own negligence. But do any of these reasons justify the costs, when the CCP could just as easily do what it normally does which is chuck a tantrum and ignore the rest of the world.
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BrigadierSensible posted:What benefit to China is having the WHO under it's thumb? I had a long list of reasons typed out. I deleted all but one cuz they meant the same thing. Face.
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Nucken Futz posted:Face. plus. . . BrigadierSensible posted:Then there is maybe the spiteful reason of keeping Taiwan out, thus denying them respectability/legitimacy, and you know medical help from a global body.
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How funny would it be if a second virus got started up from the newly reopened wet markets while we're still dealing with the first one?
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Shadow0 posted:How funny would it be if a second virus got started up from the newly reopened wet markets while we're still dealing with the first one? Not?
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Shadow0 posted:How funny would it be if a second virus got started up from the newly reopened wet markets while we're still dealing with the first one? Can you link something about them being reopened? I'm not doubting it, I just didn't see anything from a source that wasn't real sketchy.
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d0s posted:it's the country where tons of that stuff is manufactured for domestic and export use, they were already sitting on more of it than they could ever need. there are some truly hosed videos out there of people hitting up western retail stores and buying stuff by the pallet load, gloating about how they're not leaving anything for anyone else. post the vids! BrainDance posted:Can you link something about them being reopened? I'm not doubting it, I just didn't see anything from a source that wasn't real sketchy. well there was a dailymail article about a wetmarket in guilin that was linked a while back, but that's a pretty lol source
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Shadow0 posted:How funny would it be if a second virus got started up from the newly reopened wet markets while we're still dealing with the first one?
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Shadow0 posted:How funny would it be if a second virus got started up from the newly reopened wet markets while we're still dealing with the first one? It'd be a terrible tragedy
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Shumagorath posted:At least all the planes are grounded now? Plus: who needs anything exotic when African swine fever is rampant in China and a total fuckin' reaper with 90% mortality? FYI Ebola is around 50%. poo poo, in all the fuss, I completely forgot we're well on the way to seeing the total extinction of the pig.
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Truly, Anarchism will become the way of the future.
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BrainDance posted:Can you link something about them being reopened? I'm not doubting it, I just didn't see anything from a source that wasn't real sketchy. The ABC video someone linked mentions it. I suspect many of them just remained open this whole time, though I don't have any articles about it. Also, if you are trying to push the idea that eating rare animal parts cures diseases, it seems kind of telling when you close those markets during a disease outbreak. I fear that this, like many issues, will simply get swept under the rug, and the cycle will repeat again and again until we run out of endangered animals. 
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Shadow0 posted:I fear that this, like many issues, will simply get swept under the rug, and the cycle will repeat again and again until we run out of endangered animals. Well, at least the cycle won't repeat all that many times then.
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https://kotaku.com/instead-of-closing-video-game-retailer-provides-employ-1842646720quote:In an email sent to Game X Change staff on Tuesday and provided to Kotaku by employees who wish to remain anonymous, vice president of retail operations Mindy Kent shares a list of coronavirus safeguards that, she says, was provided to her by a registered nurse in Louisiana. (Kent has yet to respond to Kotaku’s request for comment.) While it does include a few common-sense instructions, such as advising workers to scrub their hands for 20 seconds to kill the virus, most of the claims made in the email are completely unsubstantiated. Hmmmm....
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This dude made me lol: https://twitter.com/FRAS31965594/status/1243979209942470656
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Hong Kong Hand Worms vs CCP Brain Worms
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