Strep Vote posted:Jesus Christ loving postpone the goddamn elections God-President Trump denies your motion.
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# ? Apr 7, 2020 22:59 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 14:37 |
luv 2 live in a failed KKK TV jesus state
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# ? Apr 7, 2020 23:17 |
Rah! posted:luv 2 live in a failed KKK TV jesus state Will you pray with me as we put the homeless in the ovens?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 00:13 |
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https://twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/1247672346783232002
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 01:59 |
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Myron Baloney posted:Why is Wisconsin so often the scene for bullshit (other than having a population that will always sit and take it I guess)? WI Republicans go hard against the paint
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 02:01 |
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why the gently caress not
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 02:21 |
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I take it bernie is suspending his campaign tomorrow?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 02:46 |
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Asproigerosis posted:I take it bernie is suspending his campaign tomorrow? Hey mods, can I keep my gang tag?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 02:50 |
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olives black posted:Hey mods, can I keep my gang tag? why wouldnt you be able to
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 02:57 |
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So how hosed are we today?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:00 |
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Asproigerosis posted:I take it bernie is suspending his campaign tomorrow? why what happened
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:00 |
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super sweet best pal posted:So how hosed are we today? no results until monday
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:01 |
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Pomp posted:why the gently caress not because it would give all voters the ability to vote.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:01 |
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Pingui posted:So I see what you are writing, I understand that you don't think it is possible to see any change in the primary election voting. I don't disagree that so far this election has demonstrate that the MSM is very effective at focusing 2/3 or the electorate in a certain direction. But that was then and extrapolating from the relative normalcy of March until the 17th in to a month that is currently seeing the initial mass graves and could be seeing 20% unemployment at end of month, is complete and utter lunacy. The US went mental on 9/11 and a new normal went into play. 9/11 was nothing compared to the current poo poo storm. A Trump -> Biden shift (or vice versa), is a completely different situation because there's a decent portion of voters who flip between Republican and Democrat, and the current situation is going to have a huge impact on whether people support the status quo (which they perceive as Trump - they don't think of Biden as being the same because the media doesn't tell them that). And people who are so willing to switch parties are also fundamentally different from the sort of person who votes in a party primary (and particularly older people). The problem is that you can't control where these people are getting information, and these people get almost all their information from media propaganda. I can't conceive of any circumstance that would lead older Democrats to decide that voting for Bernie is the way to go, short of the media suddenly rallying behind him. No matter how bad things get, older Democrats would continue to receive the message that Biden is the solution to their ills. Another way of putting this is to ask if you would say that there's a reasonable chance that a large portion of current Bernie primary voters switch to preferring Trump over Bernie. Even if it increased uncertainty technically made such an outcome less unlikely, I think most people would still agree that it's negligible. I believe that older Democratic primary voters strongly going against media messaging within such a short time frame is fundamentally against their very nature, just as much as it is for Bernie supporters to suddenly start supporting Trump. The important thing here is that these people don't understand that things like the pandemic and economy have any meaningful connection to differing ideology within the Democratic Party (or to the extent they do understand, they believe it's insignificant compared with the impact of Trump/Republicans). If our current president was a Democrat, this might have an impact in the primary, but they already have someone to blame (and it isn't going to be the Democratic Party, at least during this primary). This isn't to say Bernie has no chance of winning, but the reason he has a chance is that there's a non-trivial chance that Biden is not able to finish the primary. Older Democrats will never be convinced to support Bernie over Biden, but if you swap Biden for someone else the situation changes. For this reason it's important to continue voting for Bernie (to the extent that people can safely do so via mail voting, etc). There's still uncertainty and small cause for hope - it just has nothing to do with Biden supporters changing their opinions.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:15 |
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so how many people are going to die because of Wisconsin voting?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:16 |
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:16 |
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Still in it baybeeee
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 03:54 |
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Jeb won again
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:06 |
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Think anyone dies before their vote is counted?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:11 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:Think anyone dies before their vote is counted? Plenty of dead people have voted
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:12 |
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https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1247702011744849920?s=19 God this loving rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:17 |
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1247702011744849920?s=19 He still can't even poo poo talk the Republicans on this one. gently caress this dude.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:22 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BetaODork/status/1247511492141948931
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:25 |
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With 0% of delegates reporting, Pete Buttigieg declares victory in the latest primary!!!
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:27 |
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holy poo poo as I watched, I kept going "no, those can't all be people... right?"
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:28 |
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OhFunny posted:https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1247702011744849920?s=19 Never voting for this piece of poo poo ever
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:29 |
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that's iran
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:31 |
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Wrex Ruckus posted:holy poo poo That's from the Iranian CIA/General dude's funeral service (repatriation of corpse or whatever).
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:32 |
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Wrex Ruckus posted:holy poo poo wisconsin was just really driven to vote by soleimani’s death
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:32 |
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I am a fool.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:34 |
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Wrex Ruckus posted:I am a fool. in good company based on the twitter replies
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 04:35 |
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Draxion posted:that's iran I can't believe Iran would steal our city.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 06:18 |
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https://twitter.com/sbotcher/status/1247679531454017536?s=20 https://twitter.com/sbotcher/status/1247218215949938688?s=20 bing bong just bribe the post office if you wanna suppress the vote e: at the same time I’m confused since this is probably white republican country
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 06:32 |
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marmot25 posted:https://twitter.com/sbotcher/status/1247679531454017536?s=20 Talked with some family in Wisconsin a while ago and they said the local mail sorting facility was shut down to consolidate at a location 45~60 minutes away. So ballots for their city get routed to another city, post marked, sorted, and then sent back to the first city. Fewer sorting facilities, when an issue arises at one, disrupts distribution to more people. To your point, it also magnifies the effect of malicious actors.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 07:00 |
marmot25 posted:https://twitter.com/sbotcher/status/1247679531454017536?s=20 It's probably just normal incompetence but a key to the effectiveness of the Republican voter suppression machine is that they do hit their own people with these measures as well, they just hit them much less hard on a rate basis
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 07:13 |
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Pomp posted:why the gently caress not Or has Florida gotten an election system that's not among the worst in the world sometime when it wasn't paying attention?
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 07:40 |
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https://twitter.com/bombsfall/status/1247543420098433026?s=19
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 07:59 |
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Haha with bernie not winning the nomination there's literally nothing positive to look forward to politically in this life on this planet for at least another decade or maybe ever since climate change is coming and it's all thanks to liberal idiot american suburbanites hahahahahahah
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 10:09 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Haha with bernie not winning the nomination there's literally nothing positive to look forward to politically in this life on this planet for at least another decade or maybe ever since climate change is coming and it's all thanks to liberal idiot american suburbanites hahahahahahah maybe in the formal structures of American democracy, but you know there's like Amazon strikes going on, right? in the next few months to the next year, a whole lot of Americans are going to have a whole lot less to lose. if you don't see political opportunity in that arrangement, then I am not sure what else to conclude but that you are a victim of the deliberate narrowing of the US political imagination. you should consider not being that
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 10:27 |
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Ytlaya posted:A Trump -> Biden shift (or vice versa), is a completely different situation because there's a decent portion of voters who flip between Republican and Democrat, and the current situation is going to have a huge impact on whether people support the status quo (which they perceive as Trump - they don't think of Biden as being the same because the media doesn't tell them that). And people who are so willing to switch parties are also fundamentally different from the sort of person who votes in a party primary (and particularly older people). The problem is that you can't control where these people are getting information, and these people get almost all their information from media propaganda. I can't conceive of any circumstance that would lead older Democrats to decide that voting for Bernie is the way to go, short of the media suddenly rallying behind him. No matter how bad things get, older Democrats would continue to receive the message that Biden is the solution to their ills. Data shows 2/3 of voters voted on electability, roughly half of Biden's voters say they are willing to change and massive shifts are occurring between the parties (way beyond and at a timescale that are both unheard of - I reject your notion that this is more likely than intraparty shifts and am confounded that you specify old people as particularly unwilling to change, when said interparty shift is +7/-8 in the 65+ cohort). These all show that the election is extremely fluid. Meanwhile your gut says otherwise. Well, I can't argue with your gut.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 10:33 |