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josh04 posted:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/08/jewish-chronicle-and-jewish-news-to-be-liquidated-and-staff-laid-off Probably would have avoided using the word "liquidated" tbh.
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Necrothatcher posted:<----- Your arrow points at "Squat squad". Is that what you call your posse when you visit her grave? e:beaten 
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josh04 posted:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/apr/08/jewish-chronicle-and-jewish-news-to-be-liquidated-and-staff-laid-off Who on earth could have foreseen that the funding would dry up after Corbyn is ejected? 
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As far as I can tell from the other coronavirus thread, the IMHE model is kind of trash - it assumes all lockdowns are equal, and that the results of our shoddy lockdowns can be modelled by looking at the results of China and South Korea's sensible lockdowns. Bonus, it's trash that's currently writing US policy!
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Apr 8, 2020 13:11
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Gonzo McFee posted:Arbeit macht frei I maintain that this needs to be chiseled onto IDS's gravestone, and until that day be displayed on a placard carried by a pantomime chicken which must appear behind him at every public appearance.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm deliberately holding off on this until things get more normal. Might do some gardening instead. You're missing the inevitable "Somehow manage to slip and fall through the window getting out of the shower and impale your arse on a garden gnome" option.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:You're missing the inevitable "Somehow manage to slip and fall through the window getting out of the shower and impale your arse on a garden gnome" option. I had to go to A&E a month ago with what turned out to be a prolapsed lumbar disc but the way I had to shamble about the place and sit with sort of one arsecheek on the seat and clinging to the back of it made me really self-conscious that people would think i had got something stuck up my bum
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Azza Bamboo posted:Vorsprung Durchfall Technik  https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1247848056768344064?s=19 The concept of 60-80% infection leading to a 1% death rate would be worth a lol if it wasn't so loving tragic. Nevertheless, the authors of the Imperial paper apparently are directly responsible for saving millions of lives
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pumpinglemma posted:As far as I can tell from the other coronavirus thread, the IMHE model is kind of trash - it assumes all lockdowns are equal, and that the results of our shoddy lockdowns can be modelled by looking at the results of China and South Korea's sensible lockdowns. Bonus, it's trash that's currently writing US policy! Yeah The US is about the only place in the world I'd rather not be right now.
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pumpinglemma posted:As far as I can tell from the other coronavirus thread, the IMHE model is kind of trash - it assumes all lockdowns are equal, and that the results of our shoddy lockdowns can be modelled by looking at the results of China and South Korea's sensible lockdowns. Bonus, it's trash that's currently writing US policy! So 66k is based on the prior that our lockdown is as good as South Korea’s? ‘kin ‘ell.
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Jakabite posted:This last part shouldn't matter and we wouldn't let this be a reasonable excuse for any other business or institution - if the unis are struggling they need to be putting pressure on government. This is how I see a lot of this working tbh - consumers/workers put pressure on organisations and those organisations push the pressure up the chain, with the ideal being the government eventually being forced to levy a massive temporaroy (or not) tax on mega-corps. Well, that or a breakdown of capitalist society into successful anarchism but I don't think the population is ideologically primed for that. pretty much agree, it shouldn’t work like this and wish best of luck to student unions who I assume are organising for putting pressure on for a change of tack
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crispix posted:I had to go to A&E a month ago with what turned out to be a prolapsed lumbar disc but the way I had to shamble about the place and sit with sort of one arsecheek on the seat and clinging to the back of it made me really self-conscious that people would think i had got something stuck up my bum Checking in to A&E, clocking the look on the nurses face: "No honestly this time you don't need the three strong men and a stout rope, it's just my back"
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Guavanaut posted:I'm deliberately holding off on this until things get more normal. Might do some gardening instead. Are your sockets not protected with an RCD from the consumer unit? I thought RCD outlets in bathrooms were more an American thing. e. For anyone wondering why I've been doing so much day-posting recently, I developed a persistent cough so I'm off work for seven days. And for bonus isolation I'm staying in one small room to try and avoid giving anything to my wife and baby!  I don't think it's Covid though, I don't have any fever and otherwise feel fine. But who knows I guess. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Gort posted:If the UK does end up with far higher death rates than the US, I'd suggest that the reasons are that the UK has a population density nearly ten times that of the US, and their houses are triple the size on average. The reason is pretty obvious. Were at Italy levels of hosed (700 per day was when they started to buckle) and the gov hasn't even begun to do anything. No ppe, no testing, no case isolation, 7 day quarantines for a 30 day illness. The only thing they've done is asked people nicely to stay home. Its clear the gov isn't actually responding yet coz yesterday they had 1 confirmed case and 2 likely cases all in the same room with the new PM after the old one died. This is just the herd immunity plan because they've already given up on responding properly coz theyr too far behind. Funny that its taken this long for the press to start understanding those FT graphs though, I noticed last week they weren't accounting for population but the UK was 2nd highest. God help the press when someone tells them what a log scale is
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Barry Foster posted:Yeah Don't look up the situation in Ecuador then.
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Necrothatcher posted:<-----  Necrothatcher posted:I have no kidding been running my daily exercise on my bike past the news crews at St Thomas Hospital in the hope of being vox popped. No luck yet. "We now go to our resident PM Deathsayer, Necrothatcher, about his thoughts on the demise of Boris Johnson"
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jabby posted:Are your sockets not protected with an RCD from the consumer unit? I thought RCD outlets in bathrooms were more an American thing. wiring regs prohibit 230V outlets of any kind within 3m of a bath or shower, 110 shaver points only. e: I dont think I've ever seen a bathroom big enough to accommodate this rule. kecske fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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I feel like if "clinically stable" and "responding to treatment" are the best spin Downing St can put on Boris' condition right now he must be proper hosed.
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Filboid Studge posted:So 66k is based on the prior that our lockdown is as good as South Korea’s? ‘kin ‘ell. Yes. Expect at least 250,000 dead here, more likely 500,000-600,000 goddamnedtwisto posted:Don't look up the situation in Ecuador then. Ok, thanks for the warning (genuinely) Need to take another break I think. Myself and my partner woke up feeling...weird, today. Achey and tired, and I didn't tell her but I was up in the night feeling a bit short of breath and am occasionally still feeling it today. Think it's probably anxiety/weekend withdrawals on my part and her arthritis acting up on hers (yesterday was hideously stressful for her and that always makes it flare), but my heart's going like the clappers today  going to take a chill pill, have a weed, and wait and see what happensEDIT oh and jabby hope you feel better soon, pal. You are a loving hero.
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peanut- posted:I feel like if "clinically stable" and "responding to treatment" are the best spin Downing St can put on Boris' condition right now he must be proper hosed. Doesn't get more clinically stable than when the patient flatlines, surely.
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jabby posted:Are your sockets not protected with an RCD from the consumer unit? I thought RCD outlets in bathrooms were more an American thing. Feel better, mate. I've had a cough since 22-Mar which has just now resolved, but like you no other symptoms except for maybe slight increase in my usual orthostatic hypotension. Could well be Covid, but don't really care until testing is available for asymptomatics. It becomes increasingly obvious with every passing hour that Boris is, at the very least, in a medically-induced coma. The concept that he's in "good spirits" and just chilling out unventilated in the ICU during a pandemic is risible and insulting tbh
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jabby posted:Are your sockets not protected with an RCD from the consumer unit? I thought RCD outlets in bathrooms were more an American thing. They don't often get stuck, but 'not often' is too often. What I want isn't a plug socket, but a hardwired point like you'd use for a bathroom heater, but also RCD protected so I can test it before putting my damp hands all over the dehumidifier. Or a dehumidifier with a remote control I guess, but £££ and I'm stuck with this old one for the moment. jabby posted:e. For anyone wondering why I've been doing so much day-posting recently, I developed a persistent cough so I'm off work for seven days. And for bonus isolation I'm staying in one small room to try and avoid giving anything to my wife and baby! kecske posted:wiring regs prohibit 230V outlets of any kind within 3m of a bath or shower, 110 shaver points only.
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Barry Foster posted:Yes. Expect at least 250,000 dead here, more likely 500,000-600,000 Pollen count has rocketed in the last few days, I've been sleeping weird and popping more smints to keep my throat feeling a-okay.
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Communist Thoughts posted:No ppe Want some (lame and boring) insider medical knowledge? Because there's currently a battle of wills going on between Public Health England and the Resuscitation Council UK. The Resus Council, which trains and certifies us all in Advanced Life Support (CPR etc.) thinks CPR is an Aerosol Generating Procedure, based on studies showing high infection rates in healthcare workers who performed CPR on patients with SARS/MERS etc. This is largely in line with what everybody thought before the Covid outbreak, and it means they advise full FFP3 mask/gown to perform CPR on suspected/confirmed Covid patients. Public Health England, on the other hand, have "reviewed the evidence" and decided that none of the studies showing high infection rates were large or powerful enough, so they've decided CPR is not a high risk procedure. They don't have any particular evidence it's safe, they just reject the evidence that it's harmful. This means changing their guidance so you can perform CPR with just a surgical mask and apron. They've distributed this brand new advice to all hospitals. The Resus Council, uncharacteristically, has stuck to their guns and released a statement in response saying their original advice stands. So two senior bodies, two different sets of guidelines. Which do you think the hospitals have been pushing on their staff? If you guessed "the one that requires less PPE", correct! Yesterday we had a little group of managers and the resus officer going ward-to-ward informing us that we no longer require full PPE to perform CPR. When a junior doctor asserted that they wouldn't be happy to go against the Resus Council guidelines, managers said in that case they'd want their GMC number so they could be reported if one of their patients didn't get CPR. Basically, you will put your life/your families lives at risk for a maybe 1% chance of saving the patient or we'll gently caress up your career. So yeah, all going well. jabby fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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josh04 posted:Pollen count has rocketed in the last few days, I've been sleeping weird and popping more smints to keep my throat feeling a-okay. Oh. Ohhh. I've also had a really scratchy throat over the last 24 hours or so. Well that might explain that. Gor bless you pal, that might well be a big load of my mind
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josh04 posted:Pollen count has rocketed in the last few days, I've been sleeping weird and popping more smints to keep my throat feeling a-okay. 10mg cetirizine once or twice a day, my dude
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Failed Imagineer posted:Feel better, mate. I've had a cough since 22-Mar which has just now resolved, but like you no other symptoms except for maybe slight increase in my usual orthostatic hypotension. Could well be Covid, but don't really care until testing is available for asymptomatics. Same here, super persistent cough for a few weeks which has now mostly disappeared but no fever / temp etc., so.... who knows? Can't get tested so...
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Failed Imagineer posted:10mg cetirizine once or twice a day, my dude I also have a nut allergy, so I'm well-stocked on cetirizine, but the smints are nice because I can take them whether it's nuts, pollen, or just feeling a bit anxious. Would probably help with the sleeping though.
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josh04 posted:I also have a nut allergy, so I'm well-stocked on cetirizine, but the smints are nice because I can take them whether it's nuts, pollen, or just feeling a bit anxious. Would probably help with the sleeping though. I forget the half life of cetirizine, but it seems to be more effective when you build up with a consistent dosing. Someone might chime in that antihistamines can cause neurological problems, but second gen antihistamines like cetirizine don't really cross the blood-brain barrier that well so it's probably ok to :justdose:
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Guavanaut posted:You can have hardwired points, or you can have sockets in an area that's only accessible by tools, so I could box off the bottom of the cupboard and put RCD sockets there for it if I really wanted, or just cut the plug off and do a hardwired point. You'd have to put the switch to a fixed spur outside the bathroom above the door or something, unless you want to run a dedicated circuit and switch it from the consumer unit every time. I've seen a flat where the guy wanted sockets beneath the feet of the bath behind the panel so he could put a tv in the bathroom, and then the bathroom fitter bodged the seal around the tub and let water bleed through so the RCD would never make. Ymmv with 'outside the zones'.
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jabby posted:Want some (lame and boring) insider medical knowledge? Because there's currently a battle of wills going on between Public Health England and the Resuscitation Council UK. Sounds about right. Can't get enough PPE so redefine what PPE is and what safe is. We're ruled by cunts who think if they change what words mean they can redefine reality.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I forget the half life of cetirizine, but it seems to be more effective when you build up with a consistent dosing. Someone might chime in that antihistamines can cause neurological problems, but second gen antihistamines like cetirizine don't really cross the blood-brain barrier that well so it's probably ok to :justdose: I am half-asleep today because I just said I'd take a smint in case of a nut reaction, which is, uh, not the case. Good god. I take cetirizine daily in summer when I'm out and about, I'll probably do the same if this persists.
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Failed Imagineer posted:I forget the half life of cetirizine, but it seems to be more effective when you build up with a consistent dosing. Someone might chime in that antihistamines can cause neurological problems, but second gen antihistamines like cetirizine don't really cross the blood-brain barrier that well so it's probably ok to :justdose: huh ok I've been rationing them but it sounds like that's not the best use of resources Cheers all. This thread is simultaneously the source of my deepest despair and some of my best support 
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kecske posted:You'd have to put the switch to a fixed spur outside the bathroom above the door or something, unless you want to run a dedicated circuit and switch it from the consumer unit every time. I've seen a flat where the guy wanted sockets beneath the feet of the bath behind the panel so he could put a tv in the bathroom, and then the bathroom fitter bodged the seal around the tub and let water bleed through so the RCD would never make. Ymmv with 'outside the zones'. Gonzo McFee posted:Sounds about right. Can't get enough PPE so redefine what PPE is and what safe is. We're ruled by cunts who think if they change what words mean they can redefine reality.
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Red Oktober posted:Same here, super persistent cough for a few weeks which has now mostly disappeared but no fever / temp etc., so.... who knows? Can't get tested so... Cough since 1st March here. Comes in short bursts, especially when lie down to sleep! I have some pholcodeine linctus which gets me off to sleep and keeps it at bay for a few hours. BUT I get a prolonged cough that goes on for several weeks almost every spring. I remember one I had when I was 14 and living in an area quite dense with blocks of flats in the Ruhr - my hacking cough all night was driving everyone insane. I have finally wondered whether it is an allergen (hayfever) cough so yesterday bought some non-drowsy hayfever tabs to try. Took one just now will see what happens! It also means though that I have taken myself off the 'doing shopping for others' list (other than my immediate 87 year old neighbour) because the cough is very alarming to other people!
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Gonzo McFee posted:Sounds about right. Can't get enough PPE so redefine what PPE is and what safe is. We're ruled by cunts who think if they change what words mean they can redefine reality. This is what our political system has degenerated into - all it can do is churn out people whose only skills are in PR and media spin. And even those skills have begun to atrophy lately due to the active collusion between them and the papers/political correspondents - they barely even have to try. Incompetence doesn't even begin to describe it. They literally have no idea how to govern - just how to spin narratives and shift blame while they enrich themselves.
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