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josh04 posted:I am half-asleep today because I just said I'd take a smint in case of a nut reaction, which is, uh, not the case. Good god. 
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Rustybear posted:I could well believe we're the worst hit in europe or similar but that data suggests we will be the worst hit out of all the countries analysed by orders of magnitude per head of population; something is not right in the figures somewhere. Their figure for the USA is completely out of whack, maybe that's throwing you off EDIT basically it's all bullshit but that's because their estimates are wildly optimistic. Go ask in the corona thread for better data
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I know things are poo poo, but hope you and your colleagues stay safe as they can Jabby  Even as the government is trying to ratfuck the NHS (as usual) And also to everyone else in the thread, hope you all stay safe.
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We won't really get a clear picture until it's all over and there's a vaccine. The number of people dying due to Covid will always be disputed to favour those who completely botched it. The lessons to take from this are that herd immunity strategy is killing exponentially more than everywhere else bar America who's whole strategy is doing nothing. Think of how we can't get a clear estimate on the number of people killed in Iraq seventeen years on.
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Gort posted:If the UK does end up with far higher death rates than the US, I'd suggest that the reasons are that the UK has a population density nearly ten times that of the US, and their houses are triple the size on average. Hmm I'm not so sure about that. People still go to churches, office buildings and clubs whether they live 2 miles apart or 20 miles apart. I'd say social mixing isn't really that tied to national population density, and is more relevant. And parts of the US are just as dense as here - you can't just say it'll spread slower because you've included Nevada and Alaska and the Rockies in the math. As for house size, again i think close contact between families would be just as strong in a flat as in a mansion, notwithstanding the tendency of the ultra rich to never touch each other.
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jabby posted:Want some (lame and boring) insider medical knowledge? Because there's currently a battle of wills going on between Public Health England and the Resuscitation Council UK. thanks for the scoop, in general Public Health England seem to be one of the main government bodies really loving this whole thing up with poo poo advice.
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Also even the most Evangelical church I know of here has gone the "Jesus has given us so many new ways to spread the good news, let's do our sermons over YouTube" whereas churches in the South are going the "God won't let the truly righteous die of
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Tigey posted:This is what our political system has degenerated into - all it can do is churn out people whose only skills are in PR and media spin. And even those skills have begun to atrophy lately due to the active collusion between them and the papers/political correspondents - they barely even have to try. yup e: though its a bit deeper than that too cause we don't really have a central government. its kinda like our uncodified constitution just being a mishmash of stuff thats there. thats how our state is run too and none of it is joined up. nobody even really knows who has what authority Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Love to live in a totally normal country in which the Right-wing Media try and pass off an NHS clap from 2 weeks ago as Our Brave Citizens Uniting to Praise Dear Leader. https://twitter.com/seanastbury/status/1247849133777522689
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Guavanaut posted:Also even the most Evangelical church I know of here has gone the "Jesus has given us so many new ways to spread the good news, let's do our sermons over YouTube" whereas churches in the South are going the "God won't let the truly righteous die of Latter type of person, having just recovered with extreme medical intervention: "Oh it was awful. I thought I was headed for the eternal bliss of paradise"
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:hayfever tabs I don't think smoking's going to help with that cough! My hayfever has suddenly kicked in too - it's actually a little late as I normally get it worst around mid-March. I think it's a certain kind of tree pollen that kicks it off, but I've noticed all the trees seem to be blooming a little late this year, possibly because of the weirdly warm and dry winter.
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Guavanaut posted:Innovative responses to the epipen shortage? I'm in a medical trial right now that uses auto injecting pens and there's an instructional video that spends the first minute or so talking about the benefits of the shape of the pen, the clever lid and all of this, and you just know thats stuff they have to be proud of cos it lets them dodge patent claims from the epi pen people
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Communist Thoughts posted:thanks for the scoop, in general Public Health England seem to be one of the main government bodies really loving this whole thing up with poo poo advice. They are quite clearly watering down their advice in response to our pathetic stocks of PPE. And you know, if they told me I have to go see my patients in a bin bag because there's nothing else then I'll put on my bin bag and see some patients. Just don't tell me that they've reviewed the evidence and decided a bin bag is absolutely the safest thing for me to wear and the government is doing a fantastic job protecting me. Because I won't loving believe it.
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Guavanaut posted:Also even the most Evangelical church I know of here has gone the "Jesus has given us so many new ways to spread the good news, let's do our sermons over YouTube" whereas churches in the South are going the "God won't let the truly righteous die of https://twitter.com/JackLopresti/status/1247508135029411841 A Tory MP appears!
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Barry Foster posted:Their figure for the USA is completely out of whack, maybe that's throwing you off It's wildly optimistic versus other sources for everywhere except the UK where it's wildly pessimistic versus other sources for some reason, all very odd.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I don't think smoking's going to help with that cough! But I don't smoke!
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jabby posted:They are quite clearly watering down their advice in response to our pathetic stocks of PPE. sometimes i dont really get the lying.. i suppose i do... its just reflexively british to lie to your underlings and the public. but it seems particularly stupid to lie to NHS staff who are in the thick of things thank you for your service jabby
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peanut- posted:I feel like if "clinically stable" and "responding to treatment" are the best spin Downing St can put on Boris' condition right now he must be proper hosed. These are the same dorks who'd believe that a cheery video message from the old rascal, sat content in the ICU, would lift the nation's spirits. So given that's not happening suggests only one thing: our definitely-conscious prime minister thinks we're all jubilant enough
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:But I don't smoke! Sorry, crap pun that probably makes no sense to you - "tabs" is slang for cigarettes Oop North, or at least so Viz tells me.
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Guavanaut posted:Innovative responses to the epipen shortage? Can't wait to find out how many hours this keeps my breath fresh for.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Sorry, crap pun that probably makes no sense to you - "tabs" is slang for cigarettes Oop North, or at least so Viz tells me. I thought tabs was slang for Ecstasy! (Anyway, I was using it as short for tablets. Serves me right for not typing the extra 4 letters.)
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jabby posted:Want some (lame and boring) insider medical knowledge? Because there's currently a battle of wills going on between Public Health England and the Resuscitation Council UK. Just as well these psychos weren’t in charge during the Ebola outbreak, all the medics would have died on day 2. “There are no emergencies in a pandemic” and that. There is going to be the mother of all inquiries into this. As someone who sits in on scientific advisory committees the odd time, it’s utterly depressing to see those at the top of the tree whoring themselves to this extent. Filboid Studge fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Rustybear posted:It's wildly optimistic versus other sources for everywhere except the UK where it's wildly pessimistic versus other sources for some reason, all very odd. We call it "the UKMT model".
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jabby posted:They are quite clearly watering down their advice in response to our pathetic stocks of PPE. how busy is everything at the moment? my friend's hospital is apparently still quieter than usual (presumably people aren't attending a+e unless they really have to) but he's in northern Ireland which seems to be a bit behind in terms of cases
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Thanks to whoever recommended those 10 free ebooks the other week! I read a nice short one called "Socialism... Seriously" which had lots of other books in the footnotes, so now I'm reading "Black Liberation and Socialism" which is heavier but good so far.
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Pencils R Cool posted:Love to live in a totally normal country in which the Right-wing Media try and pass off an NHS clap from 2 weeks ago as Our Brave Citizens Uniting to Praise Dear Leader. [chunkymark_giggle.wav]
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jabby posted:Want some (lame and boring) insider medical knowledge? Because there's currently a battle of wills going on between Public Health England and the Resuscitation Council UK. I don't understand this at all, even if you arbitrarily classify CPR as safe at some point they're going to need to be intubated or have some breaths given if you're intending to keep them alive. Are they suggesting you start CPR without PPE and as soon as anaesthetics arrive pause for a minute to get changed? It doesn't even save any PPE, you're all going to need to wear full kit anyway at some point unless you just let them die. Edit: this whole thing has never made sense anyway. Originally they said to just focus on chest compressions and ignore the breathing but since you're getting very little haemodynamic instability with covid the primary method of arrest is going to be hypoxia and if you're not going to give breaths (requires full PPE, technically NIV) then what is even the point of resuscitating them? Algol Star fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:As for house size, again i think close contact between families would be just as strong in a flat as in a mansion, notwithstanding the tendency of the ultra rich to never touch each other. Right, most houses still have just one kitchen, there may be more bathrooms in bigger homes but you'd still use the nearest one when eating dinner or spending time in living room, you'll be touching the same door knobs etc. If your home is large enough that these things don't matter then you are effectively living separately anyway. Hygiene matters the most but effectively only the most extreme germophobes can be trusted to take hygiene seriously enough at home 24/7 to prevent infections from spreading within household. What might matter more is the number of single person households but USA and UK are both approximately at 30%, as is Italy and EU's average. Spain has about 25%. However over 50% of Swedish households are single person, so the logical conclusion seems to be that living separately doesn't do much to limit the spread if you don't limit public gatherings.
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peanut- posted:I feel like if "clinically stable" and "responding to treatment" are the best spin Downing St can put on Boris' condition right now he must be proper hosed. They keep saying ultra-careful poo poo like 'he wasn't ventilated when I last spoke to him' etc. Also have you noticed how everything is done 'as a precaution'. Ventilated as a precaution, resuscitated as a precaution etc. On the plus side certainly got dan hanananan and that toby oval office to pipe down with their risible bollocks, if only for a moment.
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I know I have already asked this but has anyone bought clippers for shaving their head? Any recommendations? Can you get away with spending £20-30?
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josh04 posted:I am half-asleep today because I just said I'd take a smint in case of a nut reaction, which is, uh, not the case. Good god. I take cetirizine daily in summer when I'm out and about, I'll probably do the same if this persists. A friend of mine once found a bag of coke in his wallet he'd forgotten about so thought he'd have a big line of it, though it turned out to be ketamine. Good to identify your drugs for sure. goddamnedtwisto posted:Sorry, crap pun that probably makes no sense to you - "tabs" is slang for cigarettes Oop North, or at least so Viz tells me. Tabs are fags, aye. Not heard pills being referred to as tabs - eckys, dids, mitsis. Oop North is a funny one as no Northerner would say 'oop nawf', more like the 'u' in 'cup' or 'skull' (maybe southerners would say CAAAP or SKAAAL though?) Jippa posted:I know I have already asked this but has anyone bought clippers for shaving their head? Any recommendations? Can you get away with spending £20-30? Wahl hair clippers are more or less indestructible and come with a bunch of attachments. Though I'd also say now is the perfect time to learn to cut your hair with scissors. justcola fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Yeah I'm not sure how I'm gonna avoid infecting my partner or vice versa if one of us gets it. We only have one loo and kitchen. Almost like home isolation is a bad idea. It does seem possible though, covid is bizzarely infectious in that people you wouldn't expect get infected and people you would don't.
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justcola posted:A friend of mine once found a bag of coke in his wallet he'd forgotten about so thought he'd have a big line of it, though it turned out to be ketamine. Good to identify your drugs for sure. Wouldn't someone from leeds say oop?
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Jippa posted:I know I have already asked this but has anyone bought clippers for shaving their head? Any recommendations? Can you get away with spending £20-30? You can get away with less than that if your only desire is to get all the hair off and you don't care about anything fancy like cordless. I've been using a Wahl set I bought 3 years ago from Argos for about £15 to just buzz it every couple of weeks.
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Jippa posted:I know I have already asked this but has anyone bought clippers for shaving their head? Any recommendations? Can you get away with spending £20-30? I have a phillips headgroom one with a twisty head and it cost me about that and it's really good at cutting and easy to use It doesn't do beards too well tho
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History Comes Inside! posted:You can get away with less than that if your only desire is to get all the hair off and you don't care about anything fancy like cordless. I've been using a Wahl set I bought 3 years ago from Argos for about £15 to just buzz it every couple of weeks. Cheers I only want it to try and ride out the covid any way.
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justcola posted:Not heard pills being referred to as tabs - eckys, dids, mitsis. https://twitter.com/digital_mondays/status/946030843952336896?s=21
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Communist Thoughts posted:Yeah I'm not sure how I'm gonna avoid infecting my partner or vice versa if one of us gets it. We only have one loo and kitchen. Sadly, Home isolation protects people outside your family, not inside.
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