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Communist Thoughts posted:Yeah I'm not sure how I'm gonna avoid infecting my partner or vice versa if one of us gets it. We only have one loo and kitchen. No, it's a really good idea because you only infect your partner instead of the two of you infecting the entire loving cabinet like a certain moron of our mutual acquaintance. E: 96 is the recommended position if you don't want to get coronavirus.
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XMNN posted:how busy is everything at the moment? It varies, I don't work in A&E or ITU so the wards I cover have less patients total but they're coming in much sicker and deteriorating much faster. Algol Star posted:I don't understand this at all, even if you arbitrarily classify CPR as safe at some point they're going to need to be intubated or have some breaths given if you're intending to keep them alive. Are they suggesting you start CPR without PPE and as soon as anaesthetics arrive pause for a minute to get changed? It doesn't even save any PPE, you're all going to need to wear full kit anyway at some point unless you just let them die. The idea is ward staff should start CPR in their crappy masks/aprons but don't do any airway management until the arrest team arrives in full PPE and takes over. You're right, this is unlikely to save any lives especially in Covid patients because the primary cause of death is likely to be hypoxia. BUT it neatly addresses the PR problem of medics saying we can't start CPR on anyone because we don't have the right kit. And if we have to spray deadly virus all around the ward to address a PR problem, we're drat well going to do it.
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Communist Thoughts posted:Almost like home isolation is a bad idea. As opposed to what? Where would you see this going if we didn't isolate?
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OwlFancier posted:Grow your hair out and stop shaving, it's appropriate. I have stopped shaving for the Covid even though it looks worse (for now), and there's no reason because my face shaver is working just as well as pre-Covid...
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Gonzo McFee posted:We won't really get a clear picture until it's all over and there's a vaccine. The number of people dying due to Covid will always be disputed to favour those who completely botched it. The lessons to take from this are that herd immunity strategy is killing exponentially more than everywhere else bar America who's whole strategy is doing nothing. The UK American Partnership....of death
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Nenonen posted:Right, most houses still have just one kitchen  justcola posted:Oop North is a funny one as no Northerner would say 'oop nawf', more like the 'u' in 'cup' or 'skull' (maybe southerners would say CAAAP or SKAAAL though?)
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Rustybear posted:They keep saying ultra-careful poo poo like 'he wasn't ventilated when I last spoke to him' etc. Also have you noticed how everything is done 'as a precaution'. Ventilated as a precaution, resuscitated as a precaution etc. Boris Johnson has been declared dead as a precaution. A spokesperson said this was a precautionary measure and no conclusions should be drawn from it.
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jabby posted:The idea is ward staff should start CPR in their crappy masks/aprons but don't do any airway management until the arrest team arrives in full PPE and takes over. I'm wondering if the idea isn't that you stop doing CPR. Never mind that your professional ethics prevent it - remember that you are dealing with utterly unethical people here.
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josh04 posted:Pollen count has rocketed in the last few days, I've been sleeping weird and popping more smints to keep my throat feeling a-okay. Can I just say that this is one of the reasons I like this thread? Yeah, it's a good source of news/commentary/venting on current affairs, but also I'm sitting here wondering "why have I not been feeling as rested after sleeping what should be a good number of hours these past few nights? And why do I have a scratchy throat but no cough?" and someone pops up with the answer. A lot of knowledgeable/informed people here.
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We're electing a new prime minister as a precaution, last any of us spoke to him he was doing fine in the hospital.
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Morter posted:As opposed to what? Where would you see this going if we didn't isolate? China took thousands of people who tested positive from their homes to 'Covid hospitals', where they monitored their symptoms and made them do dance routines and other stuff they got mocked for on social media. That way they didn't infect their families and any deterioration in their condition was caught early. This strategy worked really well because it prevented inter-household spread which is actually one of the biggest vectors of transmission. Even with our current advice, people living with sick people are still going out shopping, going to work, or they don't even know their relative is sick because they're both in the asymptomatic period. It all hinged on mass screening with temperature checks though, along with a population that didn't argue too much when they were picked off the street and marched into an isolation ward. Of course the west learned no lessons from this, and instead focused on falsely characterising China's response as a pure lockdown. Jedit posted:I'm wondering if the idea isn't that you stop doing CPR. Never mind that your professional ethics prevent it - remember that you are dealing with utterly unethical people here. Most of us were pretty accepting of not doing CPR on patients with Covid, if the reason is that we might infect ourselves, our families, and our other patients. CPR has a terrible success rate anyway, and if you were planning on keeping those people alive they should have already been in ITU. Of course it didn't sit that great ethically, but end of the day you have to protect yourself in a pandemic. But now just as we were getting used to that idea here comes PHE to say "do the CPR and put yourself at risk, or else". jabby fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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BalloonFish posted:Can I just say that this is one of the reasons I like this thread? Yeah, it's a good source of news/commentary/venting on current affairs, but also I'm sitting here wondering "why have I not been feeling as rested after sleeping what should be a good number of hours these past few nights? And why do I have a scratchy throat but no cough?" and someone pops up with the answer. A lot of knowledgeable/informed people here. I only know because my partner insists she doesn't have hayfever, so every time she sneezes I check the pollen.
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Jedit posted:No, it's a really good idea because you only infect your partner instead of the two of you infecting the entire loving cabinet like a certain moron of our mutual acquaintance. yeah obvs its better than going out like our cabinet is doing i just mean it does seem like the chinese case isolation thing is a lot more effective and that actually if you have it theres no guarantee your partner has it, at least early on e to make it clear i mean isolating covid patients in dedicated wards instead of at home seems to stop the spread more effectively than keeping them home to infect their family quote:Even with our current advice, people living with sick people are still going out shopping, going to work, or they don't even know their relative is sick because they're both in the asymptomatic period. drat yeah, hadn't considered that angle. thats gonna cause a hell of a load of spread Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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BalloonFish posted:Can I just say that this is one of the reasons I like this thread? Yeah, it's a good source of news/commentary/venting on current affairs, but also I'm sitting here wondering "why have I not been feeling as rested after sleeping what should be a good number of hours these past few nights? And why do I have a scratchy throat but no cough?" and someone pops up with the answer. A lot of knowledgeable/informed people here. Indeed. I've only got it mildly, with itchy eyes and a sneeze, but because of this thread have just bought a supply of Cetirizine Dihydrochloride. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07G564KNQ/ a fiver for 8 months worth. I guess the only downside is they'll have expired before I get through them all.
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The only answer to hayfever is fexofenadine 180mg. Even then it only works for me 70% of the time. Absolutely dying today :Edit: I was having the kenalog injection around may but the last time I went for it the doctor gave me a right talking to because other doctors had not explained the that there was no data on long term use. So she said that was the last one I was getting and to get on the fexofenadine. It was a shame because Kenalog is literally magic. I would turn up at the clinic just a pool of allergies and an hour after the injection I'd be running around inhaling flowers. Aipsh fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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i noticed that most of the UK studies the gov/BBC was using included "case isolation" as one of the assumed measures, i assumed this meant the chinese style isolation not home isolation. anybody know if thats the case or not?
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Julio Cruz posted:Sausage is living his best lockdown life Sausage is a great name for a cat and he is also the best.
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RockyB posted:Obligatory fortnightly supermarket trip report: Goddamn are those arrows on the floor annoying. More people going the wrong way than were actually following them. OwlFancier posted:Grow your hair out and stop shaving, it's appropriate.
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What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early.
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Josef bugman posted:Sausage is a great name for a cat and he is also the best. he didn't have a proper name for quite a while and when he got hit by a car last summer the vets asked my mum what he was called and she said "well I call him Sausage"
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Jippa posted:Wouldn't someone from leeds say oop? Nope, 'up'. The only people that'd say it like that are southerners and poo poo comedians doing terrible impressions. You might find someone form Lancashire saying it like that though. Source: me. From Leeds and having endured 20 years of funny fuckers in London trying to do my accent.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early. Does opening the windows not work? Especially if you open them and the door it should vent really well as you're well placed to catch the wind/suck air up from the ground floor.
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Julio Cruz posted:Sausage is living his best lockdown life I thought Labour were nationalizing Sausage because of anti-semitism or some such? So do we all get to rub that tum? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwar2YLS_s
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Jippa posted:I know I have already asked this but has anyone bought clippers for shaving their head? Any recommendations? Can you get away with spending £20-30? NGL I'm glad that I dont have to worry about this given my patented look of 'slightly shorter Hagrid' (last got a haircut 4 years and a week ago since today is my 4th wedding anniversary). I am going to try the full Karl Marx with my beard for the time being, though.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mBeYC2KGc Consider an exhaust fan, or just crack the window and have a tower fan.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early. Decent blackout curtains or window shutters across the windows - keep closed until after sundown. Also, two desk fans in opposite parts of the room (unless you're in the market for full on AC)
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OwlFancier posted:Does opening the windows not work? Especially if you open them and the door it should vent really well as you're well placed to catch the wind/suck air up from the ground floor. Nah, the room is just an insane heat sponge, I've literally opened both doors to the house and made a cold air tunnel that blew through the house and it was half useful at best. I'm thinking of the near 40 degree summer we had and I absolutely cannot do that again if we get a repeat.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I thought Labour were nationalizing Sausage because of anti-semitism or some such? So do we all get to rub that tum? What would that do to our Pork Markets!?
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early. Take clothes off - £0.00* *assuming you stay within the confines of your private dwelling, fines for public indency may ensue otherwise
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TACD posted:Is there a summary of this 17 minute video berating what I believe to be my only air conditioning option? The entire west-facing wall of our flat is a giant window that spend all afternoon being heated by the sun, and the only openable window is about a foot wide. We're really fighting a losing battle trying to keep the inside of the place a livable temperature but if there's a better solution I'm all ears. Air conditioners work by moving heat from one place to another. Evaporative coolers (the free standing ones) have nowhere to move the heat to, because they're not connected to anything, you can't "make cold" If you want an air conditioner to work you need to 1. give it somewhere to put the heat, i.e outside. and 2. make sure the heat can't get back in again, i.e insulate. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:Avoid the temptation of these: That video is very good and well worth watching, but as the video notes, portable AC units do have their uses. I have one and it's a lifesaver in a heatwave, when i need to actually sleep at night. I wouldn't consider it in the daytime though, when i can just stick my feet in a bucket of water. The AC is for Emergencies.
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TACD posted:Is there a summary of this 17 minute video berating what I believe to be my only air conditioning option? The entire west-facing wall of our flat is a giant window that spend all afternoon being heated by the sun, and the only openable window is about a foot wide. We're really fighting a losing battle trying to keep the inside of the place a livable temperature but if there's a better solution I'm all ears. The summary is: portable AC units suck compared with permanently installed or window-mounted units. Which is true, but considering in the UK we have no pressing need for permanent installs and our windows don't typically suit mounting something on them, portable is all we got. They work, they're just inefficient and often noisy. But if you're only using it for a few days a year, just get one.
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TACD posted:Is there a summary of this 17 minute video berating what I believe to be my only air conditioning option? The entire west-facing wall of our flat is a giant window that spend all afternoon being heated by the sun, and the only openable window is about a foot wide. We're really fighting a losing battle trying to keep the inside of the place a livable temperature but if there's a better solution I'm all ears. In your situation a portable AC unit would really struggle, i think. Even mine can struggle and we have a small window that faces west. If i were you i would literally just cover the window in foil to reflect the light out
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