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jabby posted:It varies, I don't work in A&E or ITU so the wards I cover have less patients total but they're coming in much sicker and deteriorating much faster. Paediatrics seems to be a different world from adults atm. My last set of nights were the quietest shifts i've done in my career. 4 inpatients, and about 3 kids attending over 3 nights. We offered to cover all the medical paediatric stuff coming through A+E but they said they've barely had any to even warrant us stepping in. Even adults hasn't seemed insane. Being in the north-east I wonder if we've just had longer to get our poo poo together than London has, so maybe social distancing, less overcrowding and better prepared hospitals have helped. As it stands we're following the resus council guidelines for children's resuscitation. Thankfully we've not had this come up as an issue yet, but we've been told that strictly speaking, if a child goes into cardiac arrest we've to leave them and put on aerosol generating procedure PPE. The practicalities and emotive nature of this means its unlikely.
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jabby posted:If you're using air con daily for four months a year, it might be worth looking at having a split unit professionally installed. It would be more expensive than £600 for a duel-hose portable, but a lot more efficient/quiet/effective/convenient/space-saving/etc. Also with splits you'll need to have someone service them every few years to make sure they aren't spewing refrigerant everywhere. Sash windows have come back into fashion on the UPVC circuit, so a third option (where structurally possible) is to get a window fitted that'll take a window unit. They've got a sealed self contained refrigerant loop like the portable ones but are almost as efficient as the splits. CGI Stardust posted:noted big-brain boy Brendan, for Spiked. thought I'd catch up with what he was saying about the pandemic, and here we are quote:In this sense, it is the female equivalent of ‘gammon’
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Everything I've heard about Johnson's condition is from Tories, so I assume he's still dying, it can take a few days
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Cabbit posted:Isn't a living martyr an oxymoron Just mad poo poo that would have been used as Exhibit A of the Cult of Corbynism if it was us saying it about him. Not even exaggerating:  If he's genuinely on the mend he might finally have solved old Tory backstabbing problem when he recovers, because whichever minister tries it on him will be torn limb from limb by the membership.
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CGI Stardust posted:‘It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own’, said Cicero. This is so true of the woke bourgeoise who bang on endlessly about ‘Karens’. You know Karens: they’re the busybody, always-complaining, helmet-haired women who stalk the nightmares of sophisticated middle-class people, especially the right-on millennial middle classes. These people are constantly making memes of Karens, showing culturally and sartorially inferior women asking for the manager and generally making a fuss about everything. Which is hilariously ironic given that ‘Karen’-like behaviour – snitching to management, trying to get people sacked, moaning endlessly about every inconvenience – is the stock-in-trade of woke millennials. These Karen-bashers are the biggest Karens of all. I mean a lot of the "trying to get people sacked" is for people doing poo poo like sexual harassment. I don't know a single "Millennial" who treats retail workers as anything other than hard working folks, which is a rather large gap in the whole "Oh they are just the same" argument. Also I think one of the cruelest things about Covid is you get better briefly before passing away. It's like the whole radiation poisoning bit of Chernobyl.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What is my best option for cooling an attic room with skylight windows, for up to let's say a couple hundred pounds? It is already starting to get summery as hell up there, so I should probably actually invest in something this year, and do it early. I'd say go the opposite way and just make it hot as gently caress. I used to have an attic room that would get up to 40 degrees some days, it was like a sweat lodge.
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OwlFancier posted:Also the longer he's on a vent the less likely he is to come off it, afaik. He’s not on a vent, is he?
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Oodles posted:He’s not on a vent, is he? We don't know, but we can hope.
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It's actually very racist, sexist, and classist for Ann Karen to be laughing at mumsnet.
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Making me sign up for premium?! Where do i go to tell the internet i am pure fumin babes about this  
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crispix posted:i am pure fumin babes Is that what you do instead of vaccinating them?
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lol just lol if you think bojo is even ill. The lazy fat oval office hid when it got to the tricky bit where everyone's pissed off with lockdown but the graphs still look scary. Got a bit overzealous nudging the turps while "self-isolating". Right now probably a bunch of junior ministers trying to keep him away from the cab sauv, while some stressed out junior doctor gives him IV fluids and Berocca. Now when his melted Stretch Armstrong looking carcass comes shuffling out of hosital he'll be loving bulletproof and nobody'll bother asking questions along the lines of "where's the loving ppe?" and "where's the loving tests?" and "are you actually for-reals shagging Kuenssberg?" because for some inexplicable reason this mashed potato golem is now the bravest man in history for wilfully contracting a disease that projections suggest 80% of the planet are gonna have to chomp on at some point whether they like it or not. Oh bwah fwah was a bit bally well um bwah fwah ill dontcherknow, therefore I bwah fwah don't want to answer any of yer questions, hum hum bwah fwah coof back to bwah fwah hum hum work you loving bally old peasants toodle pip honk honk. loving wank.
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namesake posted:That's pretty much 100% what the ForwardMomentum reorganisation/rebrand is going to wind up doing, although they won't just be helping people they'll be helping 'the left' so it'll be campaign support and participation rather than volunteer charity work. That's the opposite of what I think we should be doing though. People are sick of campaigns and promises. They don't trust the left to deliver on anything. As much as I don't think volunteering and charity work are the way to solve systemic problems (that needs a decent government) we need to demonstrate to people that we actually give a poo poo about improving things. Open and run food banks. Organise community assistance schemes. Go shopping for old people. Anything that we can attach the Momentum/Labour brand to that makes it obvious we don't just want power. If all momentum want to do is signal-boost campaigns that's fine, but they did it all through the election and it didn't amount to anything. jabby fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Julio Cruz posted:when's the Mumsnet Patreon launching Matreon
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jabby posted:That's the opposite of what I think we should be doing though. totally agree with your last couple posts about momentum
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jabby posted:That's the opposite of what I think we should be doing though. Agreed on this. If this is what it starts developing in to, I think it'd be good to join.
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Bobstar posted:Sunak: Came here to quote Sunak with that, like they can't see the last tax returns over x years honest folk have done. It's all loving 'sorry can't help you, done all I can' when it's obvious they [i[can[/i] help they choose not to, loving snake bastards.
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jabby posted:That's the opposite of what I think we should be doing though. I don't think this will work either - those elements are just too small and local in nature to lead to systematic change or mass opinion shifts, which is what leads to the most good in the end. Honestly, I'd say we need to double down on spreading those kind of messages and campaigns at the 20's and below demographics - get ideas lodged there firmly before establishment media catches up on bringing that group into the failed neoliberial consensus.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I don't think this will work either - those elements are just too small and local in nature to lead to systematic change or mass opinion shifts, which is what leads to the most good in the end. Honestly, I'd say we need to double down on spreading those kind of messages and campaigns at the 20's and below demographics - get ideas lodged there firmly before establishment media catches up on bringing that group into the failed neoliberial consensus. The thing is I think that we have methods of getting that out there anyway. It's called trying to live and help others. Getting the message out should be one aspect, but we've seen how much good "messaging" does in 2019. Instead a basis should be on practice as well as theory.
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Josef bugman posted:The thing is I think that we have methods of getting that out there anyway. It's called trying to live and help others. Getting the message out should be one aspect, but we've seen how much good "messaging" does in 2019. Instead a basis should be on practice as well as theory. we did see boris and cummings absolutely obliterate labour after labour failed on messaging and they dominated it
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jabby posted:That's the opposite of what I think we should be doing though. The thing is that that approach is just a transactional service where you do nice things and then hope to have an emotional sense of obligation from the voter at the critical moment. Yeah you might well get some votes but a persuasive hostile media campaign about how your manifesto can't be done in reality or a targeted tax cut can just take that away again. The difference isn't just boost electoral campaigns, it's connecting electoral work to power in the community. Fixing little things for people now doesn't have any real emotional relationship to promises to fix much larger things tomorrow unless the public feel a part of it and feel powerful because of it. You can't just exist as a do gooder party and say 'I fixed your gate so you can trust me to fix the railways.' because the scale doesn't connect unless there's a deeper sense of achievement and potential futures - 'You didn't think we could stop your eviction but together we did it! So we can actually create a world where housing is available to everyone!' It's a very different and more powerful way of mobilising people and it's harder to shake because attacks against the manifesto become attacks against THEIR achievements. namesake fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Julio Cruz posted:today Morrisons had every single Easter egg on BOGOF Easter clearance is always fun. There's likely to be pallets and pallets of the stuff left over with the lockdown.
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Josef bugman posted:The thing is I think that we have methods of getting that out there anyway. It's called trying to live and help others. Getting the message out should be one aspect, but we've seen how much good "messaging" does in 2019. Instead a basis should be on practice as well as theory. Doing good things is good, But... Think how popular you local council social service department is. Now think how popular it would be, if it had 0.1% of the budget, no permanent trained staff, and plenty of enemies with every reason to find and broadcast faults.
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namesake posted:The thing is that that approach is just a transactional service where you do nice things and then hope to have an emotional sense of obligation from the voter at the critical moment. Yeah you might well get some votes but a persuasive hostile media campaign about how your manifesto can't be done in reality or a targeted tax cut can just take that away again. Also the issue with doing things for people is a lot of people are ungrateful shits and that's why they vote tory.
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For what it's worth, my local food bank is run by Lib Dems, and they make no mention of that fact anywhere, they do it because it's needed.
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Eh, Hamas of all parties managed to win an election that most of the regional powers that be were trying to rig against them by making sure people got food and medicine. Performing community service where the government can't and won't help is pretty effective.
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Communist Thoughts posted:we did see boris and cummings absolutely obliterate labour after labour failed on messaging and they dominated it I think that the problem last time was just the sheer accumulation of bad press. I think doing local things helps more because there is both no-one person to blame and it instinctively helps to build a state within a state in case of difficulties.
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Azza Bamboo posted:They make no mention because if your charity has party political affiliations it is not eligible for tax breaks. That's a thought, not sure if they're a charity as such, they're not on the charity commission site anyway, at least not under what I'd expect.
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OwlFancier posted:Also the issue with doing things for people is a lot of people are ungrateful shits and that's why they vote tory. In one of our local covid support groups where people are doing a lot of good work getting shopping, prescriptions etc for those unable to do it themselves, there's been a whole thread today on people proudly saying how they clapped for Boris last night.
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have a Jonathan Freeland article in which he presents something incredibly obvious to anyone with half a brain as if it's new and profound information, because he's just realised itCoronavirus crisis has transformed our view of what’s important posted:After 100 days of rapid change we now see we can do without celebrities but not shelf-stackers
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HJB posted:That's a thought, not sure if they're a charity as such, they're not on the charity commission site anyway, at least not under what I'd expect. There's another form of charitable organisation besides registered charity but for the life of me I can't remember what it is called! Community something or other. But I can't google it because I don't know what to google LOL Ed: "Community Interest Company" Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Ultimately for all the platitudes about how people didn't realise what was really essential, I don't think it's going to change. Because people don't want to grapple with actually understanding what essential work means. They don't want to think the world is maintained by people who work for basic subsistence, they certainly don't want to deal with any of the consequences of empowering or even rewarding those people appropriately. So you'll get claps. And absolutely nothing else. And the clapping will serve exactly the same function as those articles do. As something for people who sit atop the labour of others, to do to make themselves feel good. It is performative appreciation as a vehicle for making the appreciator feel better about themselves, and to diffuse any responsibility they might feel to do anything meaningful. Two minutes on a couple of thursdays to clap and demonstrate your wokeness. That's what the foundation of society is worth.
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