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Terms like Pennsylvania Dutch make more sense when you realize that the difference used to be a lot murkier, when nation-states weren't really a thing. The standardization of the Dutch language throughout the centuries was a gradual process, and as far as I know Low German (which is generally closer to Dutch than Standard (High) German) only really started declining from the 19th century on. Even today you still have some surviving dialects in the eastern parts of the Netherlands and Flanders that sound distinctly 'German' to outsiders. The Low Saxon dialect group cuts right across the Dutch-German border:  It's just isoglosses all over the place, and in every direction, that don't neatly correspond to state borders.
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Also the Dutch and Germans were in the same "state" back then.
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In the 19th century? No they weren't.
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PittTheElder posted:In the 19th century? No they weren't. yeah they were: the state of disarray!
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It is kind of interesting in English that the general term started applying specifically to the Netherlands, while Germany got stuck with the more obviously exonymic name. Meanwhile, in Dutch itself, that same word (etymologically speaking) only survives as a term used to refer to Germany (Duits). I assume it has to do with the Anglo-Dutch rivalry during the Golden Age.
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Phlegmish posted:It is kind of interesting in English that the general term started applying specifically to the Netherlands, while Germany got stuck with the more obviously exonymic name. Meanwhile, in Dutch itself, that same word (etymologically speaking) only survives as a term used to refer to Germany (Duits). I assume it has to do with the Anglo-Dutch rivalry during the Golden Age. wait then what do the Dutch call themselves?
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Nederlanders. In Flanders we sometimes informally refer to them as Hollanders, but that is obviously not quite correct. e: even the Dutch themselves refer to it as Holland sometimes, but generally that's not appreciated by those that are not actually from that specific region Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Apr 7, 2020 01:39
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I saw this map and was compelled to post it. God bless you, Bulgaria.  I'm very, very sorry.
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Albania also fairly sensible.
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Greek is back to the classic.
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I have no idea what futanari is actually, I have no idea about most of these search terms  anyway, lol @Hawaii
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Phlegmish posted:Nederlanders. In Flanders we sometimes informally refer to them as Hollanders, but that is obviously not quite correct. The Dutch government up until last year had all it's tourism marketing campaigns using Holland. They've finally changed that to The Netherlands now, as another attempt to get tourists to please visit more than just Amsterdam and the Keukenhof. There was a bunch of resistance to this because "but our brand recognition!".
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The rare instance when Denmark and Bulgaria have something in common.
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System Metternich posted:I have no idea what futanari is
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System Metternich posted:anyway, lol @Hawaii That's basically what netorare means, apparently. In all my years of being a goon that's the first time I've seen that word Orange Devil posted:The Dutch government up until last year had all it's tourism marketing campaigns using Holland. They've finally changed that to The Netherlands now, as another attempt to get tourists to please visit more than just Amsterdam and the Keukenhof. There was a bunch of resistance to this because "but our brand recognition!". It does make sense when you look at it historically. Holland was crushingly dominant within the Netherlands from the 17th century on. The northeast was sparsely populated, and the south was effectively a military march populated by untrustworthy Catholics. But yeah, they should have either gone all-out and renamed the entire country to Holland (analogous to Flanders), or just used the Netherlands exclusively. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Both the Northeast, the East and the South were "Generaliteitslanden", which meant areas directly under control of the States General (rather than having any kind of local control) and seen as "wingewesten", which roughly translates to "profit areas". The colonies in Indonesia and Surinam were also seen as "wingewesten", to give an indication of what this meant. The States General was indeed dominated by Holland, but also Zeeland. The actual military march part was taken care of for a large part in the Austrian Netherlands (aka Belgium), where the Netherlands had a deal to have a bunch of star forts build by Coehoorn and manned by Dutch troops. However, the Austrians paid for the wages of the garrisons and I think a significant part of the construction costs. So I guess we literally built a ring of star forts to protect our southern border and had the Austrians pay for it, back when the Netherlands was still Great.
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Phlegmish posted:It is kind of interesting in English that the general term started applying specifically to the Netherlands, while Germany got stuck with the more obviously exonymic name. Meanwhile, in Dutch itself, that same word (etymologically speaking) only survives as a term used to refer to Germany (Duits). I assume it has to do with the Anglo-Dutch rivalry during the Golden Age. There's also the modern-day Dutch word 'Diets', as in the expression "iemand iets Diets maken" ("to make sth clear to sm"). The broader meaning of 'Diets' fell into disuse especially after it was claimed by Nazi-adjacent political movements that usually had some sort of Low Countries reunification agenda, though it should be noted that 'Dietslanders' (who generally advocated for all of the Low Countries being a single state) were a minority even among Dutch and Belgian Nazis.
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call center manager posted:There's also the modern-day Dutch word 'Diets', as in the expression "iemand iets Diets maken" ("to make sth clear to sm"). The broader meaning of 'Diets' fell into disuse especially after it was claimed by Nazi-adjacent political movements that usually had some sort of Low Countries reunification agenda, though it should be noted that 'Dietslanders' (who generally advocated for all of the Low Countries being a single state) were a minority even among Dutch and Belgian Nazis. I'm Dutch and I've never heard that saying. I only know 'Diets' as a word referring to old Dutch/Germanic/something.
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Phlegmish posted:That's basically what netorare means, apparently. In all my years of being a goon that's the first time I've seen that word Netorare/NTR is something that became in vogue, I wanna say, a few years ago. Mostly everyone used "cheating" beforehand, but NTR because the more popular term at some point. NTR does denote a specific kind of cheating iirc (woman cheats on her male partner), but I think it's basically used both ways.
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Found a hentai dictionary to help out.  Ahegao (Luxembourg, Montenegro): An exaggerated facial expression indicating pleasure, usually includes rolled-up eyes, open mouth, and tongue sticking out. Often occurs during sexual climax. Bakunyuu (Moldova): Enormous breasts, literally: exploding breasts. Chikan (Malta): The act of fondling or touching another person in a sexual manner. Rarely consensual and often takes place on a train or a bus. Futanari (Everywhere): A girl with both male and female genitals. Netorare (California): Another person's spouse / partner being unfaithful and the one being cuckolded being aware of the situation. Also acceptable for when the story is clearly meant to invoke jealousy or sympathy on behalf of the person being cuckolded. Yandere (Channel Islands): Psychotic behaviour motivated by obsessive love. This includes stalking or abducting the person of interest or intimidating or hurting perceived rivals.
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I will never understand Japan.
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*on a map of hentai habits in the us and europe* JAPAN AMIRITE
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Gonoria in close proximity to the Hos, I see.
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While we're (kind of) on the subject.  (From Vice)
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escapegoat posted:While we're (kind of) on the subject. more evidence that california sucks
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Sampatrick posted:more evidence that
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escapegoat posted:While we're (kind of) on the subject.
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Phlegmish posted:My criticism is more of vegans who religiously avoid any and all animal-related products regardless of context or circumstances. Going back to this for a bit, the explanation is simple. It's much easier to draw a line for yourself and say "i will never consume dairy and eggs again" than try to judge the amount of animal cruelty in every meal on a case by case basis. And in the current world we live in, most dairy and eggs come from horrific industrial farming anyway, so cruelty is the safe assumption.
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Princess Mononoke isn't a show. It's good, but there's no way that you'd get it popping up on the top of a list of shows unless there's something just broken about however you're collecting data.Orange Devil posted:I will never understand Japan. Porn winds up having a bunch of weird specific terminology because of people searching for material that hits their own weird specific tastes. Japan wound up becoming a big exporter of porn on the internet, so there's a website dedicated to its porn using Japan's keywords. Now you know everything there is to know. I think American porn gets weirdly into ethnic terms, as if there's some significant difference of appearance between Cuban girls and Puerto Rican girls.
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Never thought I'd see a map where Alabama was one of the good states. Weird world we're in.
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So what is the first largest latinx community supposed to be?
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Milo and POTUS posted:So what is the first largest latinx community supposed to be? Literally the image above the one you quoted.
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Milo and POTUS posted:So what is the first largest latinx community supposed to be? It's in the very post you quoted? This one: Soviet Commubot posted:Seen on Facebook
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Rural Nebraska confirmed as a hellhole. You can even see the epicenter.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Princess Mononoke isn't a show. It's good, but there's no way that you'd get it popping up on the top of a list of shows unless there's something just broken about however you're collecting data. The question could have easily just been "what's your favorite anime?"
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Craptacular posted:Literally the image above the one you quoted. Boy oh boy that's embarrassing
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