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*Ahem* 12-13 The rainbow that I have put in the sky will be my sign to you and to every living creature on earth. It will remind you that I will keep this promise forever. 14 When I send clouds over the earth, and a rainbow appears in the sky, 15 I will remember my promise to you and to all other living creatures. Never again will I let floodwaters destroy all life. 16 When I see the rainbow in the sky, I will always remember the promise that I have made to every living creature. 17 The rainbow will be the sign of that solemn promise.
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VideoGameVet posted:This Boomer is determined to give away, to the schools, a non-oil-industry created Climate Curriculum, to replace the denialist stuff they are using now. To that purpose I’m adding quizzes to the Climate Trail game. This rules. It's E, right? A, B, and D seem wrong because meteors and earthquakes are unrelated to global warming, and then I think C is wrong I'm pretty sure arctic ice going down is the way we break records these days
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VideoGameVet posted:This Boomer is determined to give away, to the schools, a non-oil-industry created Climate Curriculum, to replace the denialist stuff they are using now. To that purpose I’m adding quizzes to the Climate Trail game. 'climatic' not 'climactic' there's really no way anything happening right now is climactic yet also this owns
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:*Ahem* So God prefers Mad Max to Water World? Serious post: How much does human activity contribute to dimming and how much does it seem that the coronavirus depression has decreased it?
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Pulcinella posted:So God prefers Mad Max to Water World? ~We’re going to find out!~
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How are u posted:The problem with shitposting is that it may be cathartic but it doesn't ever translate into real world change. Shitposting played a big part in making Donald Trump the current President of the United States of America. But ya other than that I guess you're right.
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Nice piece of fish posted:I know it's ghoulish and hosed up and probably really loving stupid, but I've been thinking about this post and the olds loving over the younger generation at every turn (not just in the US but everywhere). Young ppl are hardly better. Hardly 20% even voted in the dem primaries
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Apr 6, 2020 19:40
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maker posted:Young ppl are hardly better. Hardly 20% even voted in the dem primaries young people correctly recognize that democracy is a fake idea
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Apr 6, 2020 20:08
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Oxxidation posted:young people correctly recognize that democracy is a fake idea it's pretty clearly not a fake idea since we keep getting hosed over by not participating in it
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Apr 6, 2020 20:45
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you tell kids their whole lives what to do and to shut up and that they don't understand the real world and a vote is just a drop in the bucket in a world where money decides anyways and they're just getting adjusted to becoming self sufficient as best they can so wtf can you really expect from them
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All ideas are constructed and that has nothing to do with if they are real or not. They can be constructed and not real, they can be constructed and real. Democracy is a good one, one we should make real.
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Apr 7, 2020 01:01
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Democracy is a good one, one we should make real. Yes but voting in an American election is not how you do that. It’s not even a small part of your political obligations, just a straight up distraction.
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tuyop posted:Yes but voting in an American election is not how you do that. It’s not even a small part of your political obligations, just a straight up distraction. If this was actually true gerrymandering and voter suppression would not exist.
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Apr 7, 2020 08:40
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Admiral Ray posted:If this was actually true gerrymandering and voter suppression would not exist. the discrepancy between exit polls and actual dem primary results averages like 12% in non-caucus states, in biden's favour. dems just flat out cheat in their elections and there's nothing you can do about it #BEB
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Truga posted:the discrepancy between exit polls and actual dem primary results averages like 12% in non-caucus states, in biden's favour. dems just flat out cheat in their elections and there's nothing you can do about it #BEB Bernie's got 34% in an exit poll in Texas but only 30% of the vote, which then got garbled into a 12% drop rather than a 4% drop (because 4/34 =12%), which then somehow extended to Biden gaining that much (despite the fact that he didn't really outperform exit polls there) and also extended into all states. It's bad stats and bad word of mouth.
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there were districts with upwards of 12% discrepancies, and IT JUST SO HAPPENS every single one went bernie -> biden. bootlicker e: also, the "young voters didn't turn out" is a bullshit myth, they turned out in unprecendented numbers, had to wait in lines for hours, and despite all the supression were a big chunk of the vote. too bad the system was rigged from the start tho. Truga fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Truga posted:there were districts with upwards of 12% discrepancies Bernie ran a poo poo campaign and lost to a dead man.
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bernie ran a poo poo campaign, but he was also somehow winning all the primaries that happened out in public. then, when they went secret, suddenly he's behind, and all the exit polls show massive discrepancies all favouring a single candidate.  e: US coups countries for less lmao
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Nice piece of fish posted:I know it's ghoulish and hosed up and probably really loving stupid, but I've been thinking about this post and the olds loving over the younger generation at every turn (not just in the US but everywhere). *Disclaimer: Do not under any circumstances negligently or intentionally spread any form of disease, poison or pollution that is capable of harming others regardless of the sociopolitical or economic problems or hardships the general population endures, as this is potentially illegal and most certainly immoral behaviour. The previous post in no way reflects the actual desires of the Original Poster and should in no way be interpreted as encouragement to intentionally spread disease. Please follow all disease control guidelines and restrictions, remain sequestered and wash your hands thoroughly for at least 30 seconds. It is generally recommended to refrain from misanthropy-posting in this time of hardship. If it cannot be avoided, please ensure that any and all suggestions of actions that may impact the well-being of others are clearly marked as disingenuous or hypothetical, also and especially if they are completely unfunny.
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poo poo. Bit late with that one.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Bernie ran a poo poo campaign and lost to a dead man. Make no mistake: Bernie lost to Weekend at Bernies. The DNC coordinated a mass dropout to prop up their centrist empty suit boomer dickhead. Pete had performed better than Biden and mysteriously dropped pre-ST to back Biden in an effort against progressivism. That’s all it was. Was it against the rules? No. But much like Dem v GOP in nationwide elections, a progressive candidate must massively outperform a centrist just to run even because the establishment will always put their finger on the scales. They did it last time and they’ve done it this time.
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I agree that if bernie had ran a good campaign he could easily run away with the election. His campaign isn't very good, he's not nearly hard enough on, in his words, "his good friend joe". But, super tuesday was close enough that the exit poll discrepancies are handing biden his win. If the discrepancies were roughly 50/50 between biden/bernie, that'd be one thing. But almost every state posting exit poll numbers one way, and then actual results favouring biden? uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, that's 100% rigged. Dems weren't going to let Bernie win one way or another.
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Admiral Ray posted:If this was actually true gerrymandering and voter suppression would not exist. That poo poo’s all just either a victory lap or brutality for distraction’s sake. Fight against the gerrymandering and voter suppression! Pay no attention to the fact that we win no matter which cartoon you vote for! Oh and also that now you’re too exhausted, humiliated and brutalized to do much else but throw up your hands and vote. I mean, hell, you’re doing it right now. Just totally duped into thinking the only thing standing in the way of your democratic utopia is x, y, or z practice. The people already lost when all their real options were exactly the same.
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Maybe don't post your election conspiracy theories in the climate change thread? There's a couple of sweet threads to yell about Bernie and how you're going to take your vengeance. e: Bernie wouldn't have saved us from climate change, just to be clear. The narrative that Bernie was the only one who had a plan that could save us was false from the beginning. If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. How are u fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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How are u posted:Maybe don't post your election conspiracy theories in the climate change thread? There's a couple of sweet threads to yell about Bernie and how you're going to take your vengeance. We're hosed as far as our lifetimes are concerned but there's still a chance for future generations. The worst case scenario isn't actually locked in yet. Conspiratiorist fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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How are u posted:If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. gently caress off with this anti-science denialist bullshit. The science of course shows that there are massively different outcomes still possible, but yes, like usual you're arguing for the outcome that causes the most human suffering (the Biden As Usual scenario).
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tuyop posted:That poo poo’s all just either a victory lap or brutality for distraction’s sake. Fight against the gerrymandering and voter suppression! Pay no attention to the fact that we win no matter which cartoon you vote for! Oh and also that now you’re too exhausted, humiliated and brutalized to do much else but throw up your hands and vote. This is pretty defeatist. Nobody is talking about a democratic utopia, just making voting fairer and easier to do. It's not glamorous or flashy, but it's work that does need to be done. You can think voting is meaningless all you want, but the history of violence and oppression centered on preventing people from voting belies your conclusion.
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How are u posted:If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. - embracing remote-work/tele-everything - flexing long atrophied state muscles showing people that anytime we want we can do things - lol 360 noscoped the airlines. all future airline industries that arent already will be quasi-state money holes like amtrak on top of that 3/4ths of all new electrical generation capacity on earth in 2019 was renewables. thats *with* the trump admin fighting it tooth and nail, repealing tons of coal restrictions from obama and forcing higher priced bids from renewables. over the course of the next 30 years 80% of the energy supply will switch to renewable (w/nuke&hydro) completely as-is and on its own. nothing has to get passed, no one has to invent anything, prices only barely need to continue getting a little bit better for a few more years. now, 80% is not enough, but its a big enough chunk that we're not "100% irrevocably hosed" at all.
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All it's shown is that we're significantly less inept at responding to immediate, concrete emergencies than we are at dealing with long-term, multi-generational problems. A fact everyone in this thread already knew.
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How are u posted:Maybe don't post your election conspiracy theories in the climate change thread? There's a couple of sweet threads to yell about Bernie and how you're going to take your vengeance. quote:e: Bernie wouldn't have saved us from climate change, just to be clear. The narrative that Bernie was the only one who had a plan that could save us was false from the beginning. If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. And it’s not a conspiracy theory at all any more than greater incarceration rates for poor people and POC is part of a plan of some cabal of lizardmen. It’s just a function of empire.
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Conspiratiorist posted:All it's shown is that we're significantly less inept at responding to immediate, concrete emergencies than we are at dealing with long-term, multi-generational problems. Yeah, the past month has demonstrated succinctly that if we really gave a poo poo about an extinction event we could make massive systemic changes overnight.
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Rime posted:Yeah, the past month has demonstrated succinctly that if we really gave a poo poo about an extinction event we could make massive systemic changes overnight. The silver lining in this awful pandemic will hopefully be something we can point back to that shows with crystal clarity how much could be done if we just *wanted* to do it.
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How are u posted:Bernie wouldn't have saved us from climate change, just to be clear. The narrative that Bernie was the only one who had a plan that could save us was false from the beginning. If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. bernie was 10 billion miles better than any other candidate on climate despite being incredibly bad, and working up from "incredibly lovely" is a lot easier than working up from "nothing at all"
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How are u posted:e: Bernie wouldn't have saved us from climate change, just to be clear. The narrative that Bernie was the only one who had a plan that could save us was false from the beginning. If you understand the science you understand that we are 100% irrevocably hosed no matter what happens electorally. Climate change is terrifying and absolutely happening at a rate that will cause untold destruction. But what you should really worry about is our response to it as a society as things start falling apart, and having a neoliberal shill at the head of government is something we probably want to avoid.
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How are u posted:Maybe don't post your election conspiracy theories in the climate change thread? There's a couple of sweet threads to yell about Bernie and how you're going to take your vengeance. People will still be here in 500 years, and their conditions are being determined right now. It is better to be 105% hosed than 150% hosed.
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Adding on to what others have said, for American Democracy to be simply “smoke and mirrors” theres sure as hell is an enormous amount time and energy spent getting people to vote, volunteer in some political capacity or persuade them that their preferred candidate sucks and they should stay home on Election Day. But in any event, there’s a massive world of difference with Biden or Trump being in office especially with Global Warming. I’ll admit it is incredibly disappointing that Biden does have Oil and Gas Industry connections but I don’t believe for a minute he’d be trying to roll back things like automotive emissions standards. If you still don’t believe me, Greenpeace recently updated Biden’s Scorecard to a B from an earlier D- Greenpeace - Joe Biden 2020 Climate Score
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How are u posted:The silver lining in this awful pandemic will hopefully be something we can point back to that shows with crystal clarity how much could be done if we just *wanted* to do it. The response to COVID-19 is good analogy as to what we need to do to combat climate change in a specific way as in the entire international scientific community and governments are exclusively focusing on this virus however make no mistake there is absolutely zero lining when it comes to climate change. Simply hitting pause for a few months we’ve you’ve already been emitting carbon for centuries does essentially nothing and has hurt efforts to reduce emissions. Petroleum prices are extremely low leading to even less incentives to move towards renewables and long term energy forecasts haven’t changed - give it a few years and we will just end up where we were to begin with in the first place with us even further from decarbonization. There Is No Climate Silver Lining to COVID-19
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Tab8715 posted:The response to COVID-19 is good analogy as to what we need to do to combat climate change in a specific way as in the entire international scientific community and governments are exclusively focusing on this virus however make no mistake there is absolutely zero lining when it comes to climate change. I don't mean any silver lining when it comes to emissions, rather that this whole coronavirus pandemic has thrown back the curtain and shows that literally anything is possible if we simply decide we want to do it. Now there's a real world, extraordinarily contemporary example to point to and say "We need to be responding to climate change like we are responding to coronavirus."
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The 2008 financial crisis is the only thing to ever make a dent in emissions, I don't see why the Covid crisis, presuming it entails economic fallout at least as bad as 2008 will have the same effect, certainly more of an effect then any politician would have managed.
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How are u posted:I don't mean any silver lining when it comes to emissions, rather that this whole coronavirus pandemic has thrown back the curtain and shows that literally anything is possible if we simply decide we want to do it. Now there's a real world, extraordinarily contemporary example to point to and say "We need to be responding to climate change like we are responding to coronavirus." https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1247900240155295745
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