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Is there a record anywhere of the monthly global death rates for the last few years that can be compared to this year?
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:14 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 04:57 |
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So Bernie quit today. This is the worst day of my life since 3 weeks ago my wife contracted normal flu but we didn't know what the gently caress she got. I need a pick me up. Somebody put BoJo on ventilator please.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:14 |
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what numbers are even so wildly incorrect that people are freaking out?
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:14 |
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The CDC has a new report claiming that the early R0 value of Covid-19 was WAY, WAY, WAY higher than anybody suspected. They estimate it to be between 3.8 and 8.9, with their median estimate of 5.7!: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article Clarification: It was written by researchers at Los Alamos National Lab, but posted to CDC's infectious disease website.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:14 |
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nobody likes a chip and dip anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQh_fSkHd80
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:15 |
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Farm Frenzy posted:if you click the lil ? by their name you can see them making normal cspammer posts ITT but i cant tell if theyre trolling or trying to make a weird point I'm asking a serious question. I'm not trying to come across as a CHUD. I personally think that social distancing is a necesary evil. What I'm questioning is the people ITT who seem to think that social distancing measures don't actually seem to prevent a catastrophic outcome, but that we should still do them anyway. They refuse to believe official data because they're craving an apolcolypse.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:15 |
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ChipNDip posted:If it doesn't have an impact, what's the point? Let's take some time to think about why a bunch of corporate overseers would be very pleased with testing numbers being unreliable and unavailable to the point that it is unable to provide evidence for the effectiveness of isolation and all the slaves go back to work.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:15 |
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ChipNDip posted:I'm asking a serious question. I'm not trying to come across as a CHUD. I personally think that social distancing is a necesary evil. Mods please probe this idiot for not being able to read.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:16 |
ChipNDip posted:The "18 months of social isolation is the only cure" is pointing me in that direction. That's going to probably kill millions anyway with health effects stretching out for decades. Loneliness, sedentary life, and poo poo diet are the biggest killers we know of, and we're now putting the entire country down that path.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:16 |
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my wah-wah pedal is a mobile morgue
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:16 |
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D1E posted:You don't seem to even UNDERSTAND why social distancing is required: to decrease infection spread in order to dampen the immediate impact to hospitals/etc. in order to hopefully allow them to be able to provide care to more affected individuals, rather than to not be able to meet patient demand due to overcrowding. Yes, I agree that they are having an effect. People ITT are arguing that they aren't. That's what I'm trying to say.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:17 |
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ChipNDip posted:I'm asking a serious question. I'm not trying to come across as a CHUD. I personally think that social distancing is a necesary evil. what is the difference between 1 million and 3 million my dude
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:17 |
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friendly 2 da void posted:hows your bean stocks? you smoke a bowl recently? we can fix this. bean stocks are ample and victory garden is growing. don't smoke, but kinda wish i did. can't drink, ruined that for myself. I think for the first time since i've quit that though i find myself hankering for some. free time and society collapsing will do that to you, i guess
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:18 |
https://twitter.com/MoscowTimes/status/1248056282818412553
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:18 |
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:The "18 months of social isolation is the only cure" is pointing me in that direction. That's going to probably kill millions anyway with health effects stretching out for decades. Loneliness, sedentary life, and poo poo diet are the biggest killers we know of, and we're now putting the entire country down that path. 18 months of total lockdown would absolutely loving destroy people, yes. Re-opening barbershops and gyms and letting people go to the loving park isn't the same as having massive festivals and conventions.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:18 |
Jonny 290 posted:what is the difference between 1 million and 3 million my dude 2 people
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:18 |
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ChipNDip posted:I'm asking a serious question. I'm not trying to come across as a CHUD. I personally think that social distancing is a necesary evil. governments are lying about the numbers because they want to end social distancing. if you doubt the numbers you should want more distancing. thats it. the people who think that were all doomed anyway are jsut lovely posters and its ok to scroll past them
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:19 |
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ChipNDip posted:I'm asking a serious question. I'm not trying to come across as a CHUD. I personally think that social distancing is a necesary evil.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:19 |
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Farm Frenzy posted:governments are lying about the numbers because they want to end social distancing. if you doubt the numbers you should want more distancing. thats it. the people who think that were all doomed anyway are jsut lovely posters and its ok to scroll past them What makes you think governments want to end social distancing?
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:19 |
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New York City, on average, sees 157 deaths a day. Yesterday, they reported over 800 and are planning on turning Central Park into a mass graveyard.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:20 |
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ChipNDip posted:18 months of total lockdown would absolutely loving destroy people, yes. Re-opening barbershops and gyms and letting people go to the loving park isn't the same as having massive festivals and conventions. If you want to get your hair cut that bad just grab some scissors and a mirror, sheesh.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:20 |
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ChipNDip posted:What makes you think governments want to end social distancing? LOL
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:20 |
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ChipNDip posted:What makes you think governments want to end social distancing? Desire for bloodletting
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:21 |
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less than 20 to go til US number is bigger than Spain number, its happening today folks
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:21 |
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ChipNDip posted:What makes you think governments want to end social distancing? LMAO.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:21 |
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ChipNDip posted:What makes you think governments want to end social distancing?
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:21 |
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Eleanor Pwnsevelt posted:Is there a record anywhere of the monthly global death rates for the last few years that can be compared to this year? For the US, it's here. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:21 |
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ITT: People who've never heard of the shock doctrine. Farm Frenzy posted:trump and other people hooked into conservative media whining about the economy Trump is a dullard who doesn't "get it" until someone takes him aside and explains to him that he needs to shut the gently caress up. The real players in the economy absolutely love this poo poo. Permanent "social distancing" is like a dream come true for actual capitalists and movers/shakers.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:22 |
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sars fatality rates with measles r0 we're dooooooomed (from famine and civil war)
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:22 |
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ChipNDip posted:18 months of total lockdown would absolutely loving destroy people, yes. Re-opening barbershops and gyms and letting people go to the loving park isn't the same as having massive festivals and conventions. Most american already spent years living a sedentary life, and eating poo poo food. That literally is our American culture, eat too much, sit down and dont move, its been our MO for decades.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:23 |
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Zyme posted:lol 22k new cases showing in Nevada. probably a typo or something
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:23 |
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ChipNDip posted:One village in Italy is not an entire country. governments aren't even going to necessarily lie with a conscious choice. new york city is experiencing 10x the number of people dying at home every day as they do in a typical day, but tests are limited and do you waste a test on a dead person or do you use it on someone alive where the result may change the course of their treatment? https://gothamist.com/news/surge-number-new-yorkers-dying-home-officials-suspect-undercount-covid-19-related-deaths they do plan on eventually adding in the probable covid-19 deaths of people that died at home, but at this point, since those deaths aren't being tested for covid-19, they aren't being reported as such, so they get lost. you don't need the government to lie and cover up with intent if the test kits are limited enough that they have to choose between testing someone dead and someone alive. the numbers of deaths are a massive undercount, social distancing works, both are true.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:23 |
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ChipNDip posted:What makes you think governments want to end social distancing? I dunno if you're being ironically dumb or actually this dumb, but holy gently caress.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
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Turtle Sandbox posted:Most american already spent years living a sedentary life, and eating poo poo food. That literally is our American culture, eat too much, sit down and dont move, its been our MO for decades. Hey now, we also consume meaningful entertainment content
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
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ChipNDip posted:No, I think people here sound completley loving deranged. They somehow believe that social distancing measures aren't actually doing anything, but also that they should go on for several months/years. believing they're "doing something" and believing they will fix 100% of the situation are two different things chip
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
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ChipNDip posted:
Social distancing can work at the same time we're under testing how is this so difficult for you
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
https://twitter.com/redditships/status/1247895025788137474
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
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ChipNDip posted:One village in Italy is not an entire country. This is a wonderful inversion of the China heckling. Governments need not lie, only not ascertain the truth, it doesn't require resources (even if they wanted to know it'd be costly) and looks good for them by the numbers. Ofc they also can't let a disease rip through their population as it is too destabilizing, leading to economic loss of not just output but human resources which take decades to cultivate. Therefore they are unwilling to spend the money to contain it but equally unwilling to bear the cost of unleashing it. This is untenable of course, just look at unemployment. This is why direct money transfers and subsidizing small business became super prominent. In short, short term thinking still dominates and we live in interesting times.
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:24 |
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ChipNDip posted:ITT: People who've never heard of the shock doctrine. how? what?
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 02:25 |
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ChipNDip posted:ITT: People who've never heard of the shock doctrine. Please, continue...
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