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bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Failed Imagineer posted:

Have you asked him why Florida is having a huge outbreak right now? Or why fever is the number one symptom of COVID and yet people die regardless? Or asked where he got the idea that people are warmer in the summer?

I know this would all be pointless, but still

I just nodded and let him get on with whacking the ballast. He's a constant reminder that because you're very good at your job it doesn't mean that you're expertise extends to other areas.

Algol Star posted:

Are they so close to taking over the world that they're just being open about it now? Can you ask him if it's true the queen's a reptilian too.

Him being a reptilian would explain his slightly strange walk. He keeps his arms straight and motionless.

102: Double top, double top, double eleven.

bessantj fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Apr 9, 2020

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Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Communist Thoughts posted:

Sitting up and positively responding.
Aka propped up so he can breath and still responding to stimulus lol
yeah i think they realised how "positively responding to staff" sounded to anyone and dropped it fast. now it's focus on him sitting up-right and keep repeating that he wasn't on a ventilator when you last saw him in the commons

Algol Star
Sep 6, 2010

I've never seen Boris on a ventilator before so I have no reason to believe he's on one now.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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It's the union of "most positive sounding way to describe the truth" and "the last lie a government minister said".

josh04 fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Apr 9, 2020

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

namesake posted:

Fixing little things for people now doesn't have any real emotional relationship to promises to fix much larger things tomorrow unless the public feel a part of it and feel powerful because of it. You can't just exist as a do gooder party and say 'I fixed your gate so you can trust me to fix the railways.' because the scale doesn't connect unless there's a deeper sense of achievement and potential futures

Funny thing, but a lot of backbench MPs are very good at constituency work even in situations where you'd think from their party that they might not be, because they all know that having even one constituent who's saying everywhere "oh, that Chris Smith, they're really good, I went to see them about a problem I was having with the gas board/the train company/the Inland Revenue and they wrote them a letter and sorted it right out" can be worth their weight in votes next time round.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Can confirm that Boris has gotten over his primary flaccidity and is exhibiting the characteristic British stiff upper lip. And jaw. And arms.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


josh04 posted:

It's the intersection of "most positive sounding way to describe the truth" and "the last lie a government minister said".

What do you reckon will be the phrasing for the 2 days he's dead before they announce it?

quote:

The BBC can report that Number 10 has "heard no complaints" from the Prime Minister.
Coming up next, What would actually happen in the unlikely event of the Prime Minister's death?

Thanks, Artemis. Death is what happens when you stop moving and go to sleep forever. But what's a Prime Minister...

etc

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I called this mansplainer a humourless wankstain on Twitter, he went through all my posts and now I’m in Twitter jail for telling a literal Nazi I hoped he got a verruca. 🤨

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

ronya posted:

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/1247808798162591744

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/1247810066515984385

https://twitter.com/rcolvile/status/1247811425466269696

I would not draw the same conclusions though ("we can't offer it all at once" is a possible reading and one that is likely to be made explicit as the post-Corbyn left ruminates, but more likely in the immediate term is "people have inchoate desires which lead to contradictory wants when polled this way")

The membership in the Miliband period were also not much more left-wing. Rather, immigration was a higher priority which forced everything else off the table... polls of support for nationalization amongst membership in the early tens still saw v high support

That was doing the rounds on labourlist about three weeks before the election results; it's not bad news but i'd file it in the same pile as the surveys coming out on Dec 11th 2019 that showed '69% of the British public want full socialism now' etc.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

learnincurve posted:

I called this mansplainer a humourless wankstain on Twitter, he went through all my posts and now I’m in Twitter jail for telling a literal Nazi I hoped he got a verruca. 🤨

Wow, cannot believe how thin skinned Jack is. I am sure he had a veruca at some point.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Depressing number of old high school acquaintances on Facebook pulling the 'if you hope bojo dies because of politics you're the problem' angle. These are people he does not give a solitary poo poo about, many of whom have or know people who have been destroyed on universal credit. Depressing seeing how deep liberal ideology runs amongst the general public, 'politics' being some team sport with no real bearing on real life.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

VideoGames posted:

Wow, cannot believe how thin skinned Jack is. I am sure he had a veruca at some point.

Jack is a human verruca

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.

They are telling the truth and he’s sat up in bed all comfy like with an oxygen mask, while people who actually need that bed are dying just so they can say he was in ICU which makes the evil of Maggie thatcher Milk snatcher seem weak in comparison.

Or he’s really sick.

Either way someone is full of poo poo here.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Trin Tragula posted:

Funny thing, but a lot of backbench MPs are very good at constituency work even in situations where you'd think from their party that they might not be, because they all know that having even one constituent who's saying everywhere "oh, that Chris Smith, they're really good, I went to see them about a problem I was having with the gas board/the train company/the Inland Revenue and they wrote them a letter and sorted it right out" can be worth their weight in votes next time round.

The who and the what? :shobon: how's life in 1982?

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


learnincurve posted:

I called this mansplainer a humourless wankstain on Twitter, he went through all my posts and now I’m in Twitter jail for telling a literal Nazi I hoped he got a verruca. 🤨

Lot of massive crybabies in this world.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said
If they could prop him up for a photo, even for a moment, to capture that 'he's a fighter!' thumbs up newspaper front page they would have.

He's tubed in the ICU and they're hedging that either he recovers in which case woo well done Boris, or he dies in which case wow so sad just took a sudden turn; either way makes no odds to them.

Mostly right now they'll be doing their level best to publicly appear loyal (in case he recovers) while they privately plan for a post-boris world as fast as possible.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Who gets to go into the ICU with infected people and take a photo?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Azza Bamboo posted:

Who gets to go into the ICU with infected people and take a photo?

No-one, but if the PM were awake and lucid he would totally insist someone did.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


ThomasPaine posted:

Depressing number of old high school acquaintances on Facebook pulling the 'if you hope bojo dies because of politics you're the problem' angle. These are people he does not give a solitary poo poo about, many of whom have or know people who have been destroyed on universal credit. Depressing seeing how deep liberal ideology runs amongst the general public, 'politics' being some team sport with no real bearing on real life.

I know a fair number of pretty hard socialists who fall under the idea of "I want him to get better so I can get back to wishing him death."

Boris isn't a nazi, he's not actively malicious to poors/minorities, he just doesn't care, not everyone can whip up an emotional actual death wish against someone who is apathetic, instead of full of hate.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I still think he’s only there in a corner behind curtains reading a magazine scotch in one hand, mask in the other, so he can say he was in ICU because, really, that’s the most on brand Boris thing that could ever happen.

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

josh04 posted:

No-one, but if the PM were awake and lucid he would totally insist someone did.

I'm sure he'd take a selfie if he could. Or get one of his security team or a nurse to take the photo.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
Someone ill enough to be in ICU is going to look like absolute dogshit and absolutely not an inspiring leader whether they eventually recover or not. I don't think there's any great conspiracy in there being no photos.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




if he's in icu he'll be tubed to hell and lookig like poo poo because he's gravely ill. there's no way he'd want that image getting out.

Roller Coast Guard
Aug 27, 2006

With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!


When people say "Don't bring politics into this crisis" on social media what they mean is "Don't interrupt the establishment spin until they've finished fully embedding it in the public consciousness".

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

Azza Bamboo posted:

Who gets to go into the ICU with infected people and take a photo?

Who gets to go into the ICU when they don't need to be there and just hide out reading the Beano and eating frazzles etc.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Roller Coast Guard posted:

When people say "Don't bring politics into this crisis" on social media what they mean is "Don't interrupt the establishment spin until they've finished fully embedding it in the public consciousness".

It's like you see with the mass shootings in the US. First it's "too early to bring politics in, we need to be tasteful and allow families to grieve". Then it's "too long ago, there's no use focusing on the past we need to look towards the future".

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Some people don't want change. There's nothing hypocritical or illogical about their views given that particular frame of reference.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Azza Bamboo posted:

Some people don't want change. There's nothing hypocritical or illogical about their views given that particular frame of reference.

Oh don’t I know this, loads of people over 55 “don’t see why it can’t be like it was in the 70s/80s” and basically what they mean is why can’t it be like it was when I was young.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Rustybear posted:

If they could prop him up for a photo, even for a moment, to capture that 'he's a fighter!' thumbs up newspaper front page they would have.

He's tubed in the ICU and they're hedging that either he recovers in which case woo well done Boris, or he dies in which case wow so sad just took a sudden turn; either way makes no odds to them.

Mostly right now they'll be doing their level best to publicly appear loyal (in case he recovers) while they privately plan for a post-boris world as fast as possible.

This 100%

This is Boris Johnson we are talking about if he was even vaguely concious and presentable there would be pictures of him 'bravely battling on' going out to the papers.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Aye, we're overdue the slab putting his thumbs up and grinning with a wee tube in his nose. Instead he'll be unconcious on his front with a tube down like everyone else. If he were faking it I can't imagine the biggest NDA's in the world would stop that leaking.

We're at 7000 deaths as of yesterday. For perspective:
- 56 died in 7/7 bombings
- 96 died in Hillsborough
- 255 died in the Falklands
- 1500 died in the Titanic
- 2900 died in 9/11
- 3000 died in the Great Fire of London
- 5700 die a year by murder or suicide
- 23000 die a year from injuries, poisoning and accidents

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


justcola posted:

Aye, we're overdue the slab putting his thumbs up and grinning with a wee tube in his nose. Instead he'll be unconcious on his front with a tube down like everyone else. If he were faking it I can't imagine the biggest NDA's in the world would stop that leaking.

We're at 7000 deaths as of yesterday. For perspective:
- 56 died in 7/7 bombings
- 96 died in Hillsborough
- 255 died in the Falklands
- 1500 died in the Titanic
- 2900 died in 9/11
- 3000 died in the Great Fire of London
- 5700 die a year by murder or suicide
- 23000 die a year from injuries, poisoning and accidents

Yes, but we survived the blitz! And no, I'm not going to think this through! :britain:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

learnincurve posted:

Oh don’t I know this, loads of people over 55 “don’t see why it can’t be like it was in the 70s/80s” and basically what they mean is why can’t it be like it was when I was young.
Publicly owned utilities and transport, or just the racism and homophobia?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
singapore is on their second outbreak after relaxing the lock down

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

ThomasPaine posted:

Depressing number of old high school acquaintances on Facebook pulling the 'if you hope bojo dies because of politics you're the problem' angle. These are people he does not give a solitary poo poo about, many of whom have or know people who have been destroyed on universal credit. Depressing seeing how deep liberal ideology runs amongst the general public, 'politics' being some team sport with no real bearing on real life.

It's really easy to have terrible optics with it like just coming across as nastily ghoulish. It also has this wierdly passive almost impotent energy, like it draws attention to how the left is powerless to actually do anything so is just sitting on the sidelines watching events unfold. Finding it funny in an almost apolitical way 'heh heh the bloke who didn't take it seriously at the start caught it lol' seems better i dunno tho

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

justcola posted:

We're at 7000 deaths as of yesterday.

It's also twice as many deaths as every terrorist attack in the UK combined, according to Wiki.

Jose posted:

singapore is on their second outbreak after relaxing the lock down

I was originally optimistic we'd have a summer this year, but given this is absolutely going to happen at least once here I'm doubtful now.

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Publicly owned utilities and transport, or just the racism and homophobia?

Racism, homophobia and the simpler times when they were a child and unaware of what the world was actually like

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

bessantj posted:

I just nodded and let him get on with whacking the ballast. He's a constant reminder that because you're very good at your job it doesn't mean that you're expertise extends to other areas.

Agreed, no need to let politics get in the way of a nice handjob

E:

Saros posted:

vaguely concious and presentable

Saros posted:

This is Boris Johnson we are talking about

:confused:

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Apr 9, 2020

Weasling Weasel
Oct 20, 2010
So, based on the Heinsberg/Gensalt case study, almost 2 million people in the UK will likely have already been infected by this stage.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
If almost all countries have suffered economically from the virus, then they all remain (relatively speaking) in proportion to each other, so does 'economic recovery' matter on the macroscale?
Obviously individual people need to be ensured provision of the necessities of life, but at the macroscale does it matter? Is there a league table of world economies? No country is going to gain some kind of economic advantage here as all are affected?

(I'm feeling around at some vague thoughts here with this scramble to 'get the economy going' talk.)

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HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Let's think of Boris as he would like to be remembered.

https://twitter.com/garlict/status/807291572706508800

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