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Ghost Leviathan posted:Literally every Bernie Bro stereotype is projection. Conservatism always is projection, so yeah, this checks out.
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OhDearGodNo posted:Not enough people voted for Bernie. That’s it. You can continue to ignore the voter supression all you want but we've literally stepped in to other countries elections when there is a huge disparity between exit polling and actual voting and there are numerous, actual documented disparity far larger than that number in numerous states that Biden won but you can just chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Great, so then if Trump wins and he's even worse in his second term, at least you can keep yourself warm at night knowing that you stayed home. Yup and I'm sure the libs will bloo bloo bloo about how much nicer they would have been and I'm such a bitch and that other guy is such a jerk. 
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The supreme court seats will not matter because the result is the same if it is 5-4, 6-3, or 7-2 The seat was lost under obama.
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The Sean posted:This is a fallacious response. I don't have to give you a response of who I am voting for. The fact that you are asking this shows that you either don't understand the conversation or you do and you're trying to dishonestly trap me in a corner. You told me to respond to your argument, and I did, considering that you wouldn't respond to my question if I didn't argue in good faith. Now that I'm asking you a question, and you're refusing to answer it, you're painting ME as dishonest?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Great, so then if Trump wins and he's even worse in his second term, at least you can keep yourself warm at night knowing that you stayed home. Don't worry about it, you'll pick up two moderate Republican voters in the suburbs for every
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The Sean posted:This is a fallacious response. I don't have to give you a response of who I am voting for. The fact that you are asking this shows that you either don't understand the conversation or you do and you're trying to dishonestly trap me in a corner. Not having a president is not an available option, if you want to make that dumb analogy fit then this is not "drink the chlorine if you don't have any better ideas" this is "drink the chlorine or drink the cyanide, no other options".
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Mr Hootington posted:The supreme court seats will not matter because the result is the same if it is 5-4, 6-3, or 7-2
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Asema posted:You can continue to ignore the voter supression all you want but we've literally stepped in to other countries elections when there is a huge disparity between exit polling and actual voting and there are numerous, actual documented disparity far larger than that number in numerous states that Biden won but you can just chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up You’re mixing up a primary with an actual election. You do realize the DNC can just decide to not hold any primaries and just nominate anyone from the onset right?
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OhDearGodNo posted:You’re mixing up a primary with an actual election. that liberals are against the concept of democracy is news to noone, yes
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OhDearGodNo posted:You’re mixing up a primary with an actual election. You do realise this doesn't actually make anything better, right?
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:that liberals are against the concept of democracy is news to noone, yes Ghost Leviathan posted:You do realise this doesn't actually make anything better, right? It’s the reality of what it is. It’s a party nomination, not a actual election.
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OddObserver posted:Eh, it's clear that Democratic voters opinions of Bernie are not based on Bernie Bros, since otherwise his personal approval would be ultra-negative rather than ultra-positive. Also Bernie's personal approval is about the same as Trump https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/bernie_sanders_favorableunfavorable-6676.html
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Timeless Appeal posted:It matters because the court is historically not as consistently partisan, so shrinking the margins matters more than say the Senate and because you're playing the long game of putting in someone young and who can dominate the bench for the next time you get a replacement. I've got some bad news about the modern day court and partisanship. it is partisan and always has been.
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Hey it's me stepping into the future after walking through a time portal from 2014. How's that "always vote for the lesser evil" strategy working out for the lanyards itt, its going good right? I mean the cause of progressive policy has clearly been advanced by always supporting the lesser evil and we haven't all been collectively forced into a Sophie's Choice by the short sided greed of the comfortable/privileged, right?
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OhDearGodNo posted:It’s the reality of what it is. It’s a party nomination, not a actual election. this is normal and good
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Prester Jane posted:Hey it's me stepping into the future after walking through a time portal from 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCUlE5ldPvM
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Have you ever considered that you might have more success in trying to win over people's votes if you didn't show open hatred and contempt for them?
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Asema posted:You can continue to ignore the voter supression all you want but we've literally stepped in to other countries elections when there is a huge disparity between exit polling and actual voting and there are numerous, actual documented disparity far larger than that number in numerous states that Biden won but you can just chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up Boy, the candidate with the most support among people working multiple jobs just to get by and thus those with the least amount of available time to go vote in this stupid country didn't turn out to actually pull the lever for Bernie.....nope, I don't get why either. Oh, well. #Biden2020  Mr Hootington posted:The supreme court seats will not matter because the result is the same if it is 5-4, 6-3, or 7-2 Thomas can't serve forever, you know.
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Prester Jane posted:Hey it's me stepping into the future after walking through a time portal from 2014. Choosing the lesser of two evils is a consequence of FPTP voting, not about progressive policies.
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Prester Jane posted:Hey it's me stepping into the future after walking through a time portal from 2014. With the way Republicans are buttfucking the country, there won't BE any progressive candidates in office after all the gerrymandering and voter suppression.
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Asema posted:this is normal and good Take it up with the party or create your own.
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Prester Jane posted:Hey it's me stepping into the future after walking through a time portal from 2014. How did letting the greater evil win in 2016 work out for advancing progressive policy? Accelerationism didn't bring out the socialist revolution, it made the electorate scared to death and unwilling to try a riskier candidate who would advance policies over someone safe who promised to make the bad man go way and bring everything back to normal.
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Asema posted:You can continue to ignore the voter supression all you want but we've literally stepped in to other countries elections when there is a huge disparity between exit polling and actual voting and there are numerous, actual documented disparity far larger than that number in numerous states that Biden won but you can just chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up I dunno, it seems more likely to me that a lot of people didn't want to vote for him and so they didn't.
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https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1248254115421052928?s=19 Good thing the young do not vote. Check out the rest of the thread. Vote trump- joe biden
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Asema posted:You can continue to ignore the voter supression all you want but we've literally stepped in to other countries elections when there is a huge disparity between exit polling and actual voting and there are numerous, actual documented disparity far larger than that number in numerous states that Biden won but you can just chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up You can chalk it up to Bernie people not showing up. Biden won black voters 58% to Bernie's 18% on Super Tuesday. Where is this magical voter supression from the primaries that somehow destroys the young white vote while not affecting black voters? Where is the disparity from the results to the exit polling there?
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It's depressing to see how our hosed up political system turns like-minded decent people into in-fighting maniacs, while the real enemy sits back and laughs.
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This clip is always so good. We didn't deserve Baldwin. https://twitter.com/BenjaminPDixon/status/1248068004820193281  Oh I guess there's this: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1248007332065230854 https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1248013133945307136 Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 9, 2020 |
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Just LOL at all the privileged/sheltered computer touchers itt putting themselves up on a holy pedestal and declaring that unless you vote for a rapey white supremacist who puts children in dog cages- then you are a monster beneath contempt. It was always obvious that supporting the "lesser evil" as a strategy only results in the greater evil winning in the long-term. (Every single goddamn time.) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dick Trauma posted:It's depressing to see how our hosed up political system turns like-minded decent people into in-fighting maniacs, while the real enemy sits back and laughs. A chud is a chud whether they wear red or blue
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Oh boy. Two primary threads lecturing people on why people just need to resign themselves to vote for someone who isn't going to do anything for them, as if it's actually going to accomplish anything, as if there is any hope at the end of this tunnel at this point, or at least until 2024. Gonna be a fun 6 months. 
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Jarmak posted:How did letting the greater evil win in 2016 work out for advancing progressive policy? Supporting the lesser evil (Hillary) in 2016 caused the greater evil (Trump) to win. Supporting the Lesser evil failed every single time, it's not "accelerationism" to point out that your strategy has (inarguably) failed.
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Dick Trauma posted:It's depressing to see how our hosed up political system turns like-minded decent people into in-fighting maniacs, while the real enemy sits back and laughs. Capitalism delenda est
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Framboise posted:Oh boy. Two primary threads lecturing people on why people just need to resign themselves to vote for someone who isn't going to do anything for them, as if it's actually going to accomplish anything, as if there is any hope at the end of this tunnel at this point, or at least until 2024. the biden camp has been telling the progressive wing that they can win the election without us so okay, go do that then.
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So wait if Bernie deserved to fail because young people suck and smell bad or whatever and people just didn't vote for him enough cause they didn't like him, why not apply the same logic to Biden? If he loses to Trump doesn't that just mean he's not good enough? If Trump wins doesn't that just mean he represents the will of the people cause they voted for him? Why bitch and moan and angrily try to shame Bernie voters then? Why not just let the people decide who they think is best fit to govern them?
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Dick Trauma posted:It's depressing to see how our hosed up political system turns like-minded decent people into in-fighting maniacs, while the real enemy sits back and laughs. It’s loving weird that I’ve had backhanded insults when I wanted Bernie to win. The difference is that I see the reality of the situation. If you (indirect you) want big, sweeping massive change then good! Go out and push for it! But you have to actually do it. For all the people who supported Bernie online, it seems the voice was either amplified inside multiple echo chambers, or people just didn’t want to get out and vote for him. And it bums me the gently caress out. If you can’t get enough people noticed to go out and vote, especially if there was any of this media bias and whatever, if you can’t get people to do that- you will not have enough to push for the reforms. The movement has to be willing to do more than post on social media.
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But I keep getting told that Biden is the same as Trump, whose Secretary of Education is <checks notes> denying my public service loan forgiveness for the reason of, quote, "gently caress you peasant".
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Prester Jane posted:Supporting the lesser evil (Hillary) in 2016 caused the greater evil (Trump) to win. Wait Hillary lost because everyone voted for her? What the gently caress are you even talking about, Trump being president is a product of the lessor evil not getting enough votes to win.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:With the way Republicans are buttfucking the country, there won't BE any progressive candidates in office after all the gerrymandering and voter suppression. Imagine if like there was an actual resistance party that was prepared to put up an actual fight against Republican introducing; however, in order for such a party to exist it would have had to have had leadership figures selected/installed not because they were the lesser evil but because they axrively fought for the greater good. The strategy of supporting the lesser evil has a singular outcome every time it is tried- the greater evil wins in the long run.
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Prester Jane posted:Supporting the lesser evil (Hillary) in 2016 caused the greater evil (Trump) to win. The gently caress is this poo poo? "Attempting to stop the racist shitbag actually caused the racist shitbag to win. Hope you're happy, Hillary voters!" BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 9, 2020 |
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