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Shaocaholica posted:If people could predict the future no one would be trillionaires. True. We would be smart enough not to inflate the currency for immediate relief without worrying about the longterm consequences of devaluing our dollar.
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Shaocaholica posted:If people could predict the future no one would be trillionaires. Today's lotto numbers are 3, 5, 17, 21, 24, and 32 There are 217 million winning tickets this week, including the bonus. Please claim your prize of $0.84 at your nearest lottery retailer.
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hold on, hold on - i'm getting something here....
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Gianthogweed posted:I think a lot of people are going to move out cities as a result of this. the HoA released the virus to drive up property values in the burbs
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poverty goat posted:the HoA released the virus to drive up property values in the burbs And all this time I've been wanting to get out of the burbs and move closer to the city. Guess I should be glad I didn't. If housing prices go down in the city I may finally be able to afford an apt. in NYC, but I'm not sure I want one anymore ...
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Gianthogweed posted:I think a lot of people are going to move out cities as a result of this. Most people don't live where they choose; they live where there's work. Where would these city dwellers go without revitalizing the downtown areas of thousands of nowhere towns?
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i am harry posted:Most people don't live where they choose; they live where there's work. Where would these city dwellers go without revitalizing the downtown areas of thousands of nowhere towns? I work in the city (or at least I used to before this happened) but live in the burbs. Commuting sucks but a lot of people do it.
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Mozi posted:hold on, hold on - i'm getting something here.... Trump's most trusted advisory committee. . . except he left his on the radiator one afternoon and now it's stuck at "It is Certain". The problem being he only asks one question over and over. "I'm doing a great job." (which isn't really a question, as he doesn't even phrase it as one)
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I'm hoping I'll be able to work from home permanently after this. Really, there's no point in forcing people to commute if it's possible to work remotely. Think of how much traffic would improve, less people burning fossil fuels and having to rely on public transportation. I have a feeling a lot of bosses are still going to be assholes though and force people to come in.
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Progressive will also be giving 20% discounts/refunds for auto insurance policies for the months of April and May:quote:If you have an active personal auto policy at the end of April, you’ll receive a credit for 20% of your April premium. We’ll offer the same 20% credit to active personal auto customers at the end of May, and we may offer additional credits in the upcoming months.
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Gianthogweed posted:I'm hoping I'll be able to work from home permanently after this. Really, there's no point in forcing people to commute if it's possible to work remotely. Think of how much traffic would improve, less people burning fossil fuels and having to rely on public transportation. I have a feeling a lot of bosses are still going to be assholes though and force people to come in. "Even though you're getting the same. . . no, <flips through reports> even more work accomplished from home, I think I need to have you come into the office again so that I can justify your paycheque."
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Blistex posted:"Even though you're getting the same. . . no, <flips through reports> even more work accomplished from home, I think I need to have you come into the office again so that I can justify your paycheque." Exactly. I get so much more work done from home and can focus more time on my work and health because I don't have to worry about commuting. Granted I'm single and I don't have kids so I don't have any distractions (besides posting on SA), but still.
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Gianthogweed posted:No they did the best they could. But the fact remains you can't predict the future. Like I said before, the models were directionally accurate, so if we didn't practice any social distancing more people would have died. That's evidenced by the fact that areas with low population density weren't as badly hit. But there's no way to know how many more. There's too many variables. The best we can do is come up with very rough estimates. And that's what the models are: very rough estimates. Your post made it seem like you think the point of the models is to persuade rather than predict. The point of the model is to predict. It may be that that prediction is persuasive. And people make models that accurately predict the future all the time. What's common sense isn't that you can't predict the future, it's that you can't do it in every situation about every possible subject. I also think it's kinda of weird that you're talking about this in the past tense ("weren't as badly hit") when we're not even near the peak and it remains to be seen precisely how badly hit most places will be.
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bird with big dick posted:Your post made it seem like you think the point of the models is to persuade rather than predict. The point of the model is to predict. It may be that that prediction is persuasive. I can only go by past/present tense because I can't predict the future. But past trends usually (but not always) do tend to be a good indication of future trends. Do you honestly think low density population areas like the countryside will have nearly as many deaths per square mile than high density population areas like NYC in the long term?
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Xibanya posted:I either have mild roni or I caught the strangest chest cold of my life. startling maybe 5 days ago I was having chest pain and pressure, and I kept feeling like I was going to cough, but I never did. had fever intermittently. It was getting tough to breathe a few nights ago but it’s fine now. I started coughing yesterday and am still coughing now. what’s weird about it is aside from headache and general feeling tired and lovely, there’s nothing else that you usually get with a cold - no congestion or drippy nose, no sore throat. I’ve also never had any illness that gave me that “I need to cough” feeling for days with no actual cough. well I guess I had the weird symptom of my eyes ached? It was strange. really hoping this doesn’t take a turn for the worse but I think the really bad cases got really bad by 5 days in? and maybe I don’t even have the roni I just coincidentally got a chest cold that doesn’t act like any chest cold I’ve ever had in my life (a novel chest cold, if you will?) If I’m past the worst of it, then it wasn’t too terrible. The real head trip is knowing that it’s possible that being around me could be deadly for other people. what the gently caress. like the worst superpower.  Hi goon! Very likely it is and GBS super hopes you are ok. Please keep posting itt and let us know. 
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Gianthogweed posted:I can only go by past/present tense because I can't predict the future. But past trends usually (but not always) do tend to be a good indication of future trends. Do you honestly think low density population areas like the countryside will have nearly as many deaths per square mile than high density population areas like NYC in the long term? Then you say "haven't been" or "likely won't be" you don't say "weren't" good thing you weren't an English teacher.
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Update on my situation: My developmentally disabled brother with multiple comorbidities that I forced my 70 yr old mother to pull out of his group home and stay with us (I'm with her now) does NOT have to go back to the group home, they are waiving the state requirements that he not spend more than 70 nights away. Tldr^ I finally made a really good decision and kept my family safe by 1. Leaving my horrific dangerous job 2. Getting my brother and mother all together so we can all shelter in place My mom is a Christian Scientist so this took some real emotional blackmail, idgaf
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Glad you were able to get your bro someplace safer. Stay safe and try to stay unbored.
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Telsa Cola posted:Its actually a pretty big man power sink and waste at this point. Abbott Diagnostics
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Spinz posted:Update on my situation: My developmentally disabled brother with multiple comorbidities that I forced my 70 yr old mother to pull out of his group home and stay with us (I'm with her now) does NOT have to go back to the group home, they are waiving the state requirements that he not spend more than 70 nights away. I know this all must have been very difficult, but I want you to know that you are a badass for being able to get that done and take care of your family like that right now. It sounds like you are really making the hard choices for people that need it, and that deserves respect imho. I'll stop sucking your dick now.
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Jesus this thread moves fast so I am sorry if this has been covered by smarter people but I still wanted to share it. I know a lawyer and was bitching to her about the Supreme Court's decision to let the primary vote go on. She told me that this sets precedent for November if there is a movement to hold the elections off. We were both pretty sure that the President could do some kind of military martial law thing as a last resort, but that LEGALLY speaking this could be a thing.
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COVID has killed the XFL. https://twitter.com/KonnorFulk_XFL/status/1248645458798526465
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Spinz posted:Update on my situation: My developmentally disabled brother with multiple comorbidities that I forced my 70 yr old mother to pull out of his group home and stay with us (I'm with her now) does NOT have to go back to the group home, they are waiving the state requirements that he not spend more than 70 nights away. That’s great!
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Flyinglemur posted:Jesus this thread moves fast so I am sorry if this has been covered by smarter people but I still wanted to share it. I know a lawyer and was bitching to her about the Supreme Court's decision to let the primary vote go on. She told me that this sets precedent for November if there is a movement to hold the elections off. That feels off, since the US Supreme Court didn't weigh in on delaying the vote (that was the State Supreme Court). The US Supreme Court only ruled on extending the deadline for absentee voting, which is more a question of accommodation than delaying. The State Supreme Court may have been trying to avoid a precedent on "extreme circumstances," but a reasonable decision by the Fed Court would only have further preserved democracy. EDIT: Built in quote; thread moves fast.
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Gianthogweed posted:I can only go by past/present tense because I can't predict the future. But past trends usually (but not always) do tend to be a good indication of future trends. Do you honestly think low density population areas like the countryside will have nearly as many deaths per square mile than high density population areas like NYC in the long term? Urban/rural is the wrong delineation, it's wealthy vs poor, just like everything else
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Handsome Ralph posted:COVID has killed the XFL. I'm normally anti bailout but the american people need this.
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The Modern Leper posted:That feels off, since the US Supreme Court didn't weigh in on delaying the vote (that was the State Supreme Court). The US Supreme Court only ruled on extending the deadline for absentee voting, which is more a question of accommodation than delaying. The State Supreme Court may have been trying to avoid a precedent on "extreme circumstances," but a reasonable decision by the Fed Court would only have further preserved democracy. To be faaaaaaaaaaaair, she is not practice Constitutional Law so like I said, this may or may not have merit.
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Handsome Ralph posted:COVID has killed the XFL. oh no one of my faves
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Flyinglemur posted:To be faaaaaaaaaaaair, she is not practice Constitutional Law so like I said, this may or may not have merit. Yeah... I mean, you don't have to study Constitutional Law to know that a 5-4 decision involving Kavanaugh, Thomas, Alito, et al. is probably not about preserving democracy. EDIT: The State Supreme Court decision was also along ideological lines, so 
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:The quantity of bodies definitely isn't normal. Late but other thread says it's running at about 7x normal rate
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Rectal Death Adept posted:Actually this is exactly what is happening to me. The other morbidly interesting thing about it is that my getting it is proof of how contagious this poo poo is. I work from home, don't have contact with other people. I was holed up in my apartment long before most people were self-quarantining (I've been lurking this thread from the start, so probably around the time most people ITT started staying in) but I ran out of provisions so I went to the local grocery store on the 28th of March. I didn't wear a mask, but I was super careful to not touch my face, was in and out quickly, hand sanitizer as soon as I got back in my car, washed my hands when I got back home, changed clothes, isolated the nonperishibles. Lo and behold 11 days later I come down with (probably) Roni. I live in the zip code in Austin with the greatest number of confirmed cases (lucky me  ) probably walked thru an invisible virus laden aerosol plume at the grocery store. I've heard a theory that the severity of the infection may be related to level of exposure to virus, hence why HCW seem to get it really bad, and some people not bad at all. That theory would hold for explaining why I've got a comparatively mild case (it sucks but aside from a day of having trouble sucking in enough air it's less bad than having bronchitis due to lack of sore throat and runny nose.) 'Course I'm not yet a week into this thing. There's plenty of time for things to take a turn for the worse! And in fact what's loving with me mentally is like 3 times now I've thought it's gone away completely, only to come back, sometimes worse, a few hours later.
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Handsome Ralph posted:COVID has killed the XFL. xfl being the most cursed league is hilarious
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Xibanya posted:And in fact what's loving with me mentally is like 3 times now I've thought it's gone away completely, only to come back, sometimes worse, a few hours later. That's another thing people keep mentioning.
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Xibanya posted:The other morbidly interesting thing about it is that my getting it is proof of how contagious this poo poo is. I work from home, don't have contact with other people. I was holed up in my apartment long before most people were self-quarantining (I've been lurking this thread from the start, so probably around the time most people ITT started staying in) but I ran out of provisions so I went to the local grocery store on the 28th of March. I didn't wear a mask, but I was super careful to not touch my face, was in and out quickly, hand sanitizer as soon as I got back in my car, washed my hands when I got back home, changed clothes, isolated the nonperishibles. Lo and behold 11 days later I come down with (probably) Roni. I live in the zip code in Austin with the greatest number of confirmed cases (lucky me Whoa. This is quite sobering if you think you do have the roni which I do. Thank you for this post. Screenshotting to read to my mother the next time she asks to go to a grocery store. Stay well, well minor symptoms you know what I mean. (I agree with you on the viral load thing, I mean it seems possible it affects course at least.)
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I dunno if you're reading this thread 50s girl groupon, and saying this is probably cliche and dumb, but I am sending good thoughts your way. 
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This is the 2nd time Trump has killed the XFL
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Xibanya posted:I've heard a theory that the severity of the infection may be related to level of exposure to virus, hence why HCW seem to get it really bad, and some people not bad at all. I was wondering about exactly this yesterday because I know absolutely nothing about it and found an article saying that for most stuff (flu, SARS, MERS, etc) if you're infected with higher doses of the virus you do get worse symptoms but it actually might seem to not be the case with Covid19 though of course no one knows for sure at this point: quote:health workers investigating the covid-19 outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy looked at more than 5,000 infected people and found no difference in viral load between those with symptoms and those without. They reached this conclusion after tracing people who had been in contact with someone known to be infected with the coronavirus and testing them to see if they were also infected. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238819-does-a-high-viral-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/ But so far that's the only article I've read. It seems like if worse dose = worse symptoms for other stuff it's likely to also be true for Corvid19 but...
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Spinz posted:Whoa. if my tale of mild woe prevents someone's mom from gettin this, then it was all worth it my other eerie thought is: aside from the breathing trouble I had (which seems to be over now) this is way more bearable than a regular cold due to lack of sniffles. I've been working almost the entire time. Now, I work from home, so there's no harm in that, but if I had this back when I worked in an office (and I wasn't aware of a deadly global pandemic), I would 100% go to work in this condition. e: quote:Something that I was wondering is also that we heard that the people who gets it again get worst, so maybe people keep getting the roni and each time it get infected it get worst and worst? I thought it hadn't been confirmed yet that you could catch it twice? The theory was that people who were thought to have caught it twice actually had one of this fucker's brainfuck false recovery periods? I'm now way more invested in this than I was two weeks ago because I'd like to think once I shake this thing I'm out of danger. 
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Another pet speculation is exactly what the other poster said and why I was freaking out about pollen the other day. What if the way it get worst is someone caught it by touching surfaces, they they start spreading it by talking and sneezing around other people and it go into the airway directly(throat and lungs for example) and that how the worst cases gets it?
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