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Natalie Fartman posted:Things that make me mad: The lower the official COVID number the better it looks for authorities. "Our measures meant we only lost 12 people to the virus!" while ignoring the thousands who died of 'underlying conditions' reads better for them, even if everyone knows they're full of poo poo.
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Bleusilences posted:Something that I was wondering is also that we heard that the people who gets it again get worst, so maybe people keep getting the roni and each time it get infected it get worst and worst? Corona can damage the lungs in ways that make you more vulnerable to secondary infections, particularly pneumonia. It's much more likely to be that.
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Does anyone else read "HCW" and assume it's a pro wrestling organization?
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My experience with COVID numbers are the opposite. Quite a few people on my Facebook feed claiming numbers are being inflated to make this seem worse than it is. There are stupid people all over the spectrum My experience with actual COVID so far has been thankfully distant but we had a volunteer in our facility (animal shelter) last week who’s husband tested positive a few days later and just died yesterday. Our volunteer program has since been shut down which is a little terrifying but the staff are doing a great job taking care of the animals.
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Trainee PornStar posted:Has anyone received a bill for surviving this yet? there was a tweet a week or two ago where an uninsured person who had to be hospitalized got a bill for like $34k but I'm betting that wasn't an icu stay because it seems kinda low for that
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Apr 10, 2020 20:59
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Gone Fashing posted:there was a tweet a week or two ago where an uninsured person who had to be hospitalized got a bill for like $34k but I'm betting that wasn't an icu stay because it seems kinda low for that Holy poo poo! 34k moonbucks is gonna gently caress your life up.
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poverty goat posted:Pro wrestling is the future of American healthcare Everyone’s a contractor entitled to no benefits and fighting each other in supermarkets?
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Gone Fashing posted:there was a tweet a week or two ago where an uninsured person who had to be hospitalized got a bill for like $34k but I'm betting that wasn't an icu stay because it seems kinda low for that That was probably just for the hand sanitizer.
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poverty goat posted:Pro wrestling is the future of American healthcare *Climbs through ropes to sneak up behind sick person, slams them over the head with a chair labeled "debt"*
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Alan Smithee posted:Everyone’s a contractor entitled to no benefits and fighting each other in supermarkets? As long as you get healthcare after your supermarket fight it'll be an improvement
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Apr 10, 2020 21:17
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Apr 10, 2020 21:18
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i wonder what all those giant pythons are doing in florida right now.
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Apr 10, 2020 21:19
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Your Moms Ahegao posted:Corona can damage the lungs in ways that make you more vulnerable to secondary infections, particularly pneumonia. It's much more likely to be that. Really? How does that work?
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Chomp8645 posted:*Climbs through ropes to sneak up behind sick person, slams them over the head with a chair labeled "debt"* These Ben Garrison cartoon S lack subtlety
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wyoak posted:deaths per square mile is a bad metric, deaths per 100k is the right thing to look at....and Bumfuck Idaho probably won't get hit as hard per capita as NYC by this once-in-a-lifetime (hopefully) pandemic, but rural areas suffer higher death rates from 'traditional' killers like heart disease and cancer. I agree that per capita is a better metric and is actually what I meant to say, just had a brain fart. But delineating by rich vs. poor runs into new problems because it's sometimes very hard to measure. For example, a person earning 100k a year is considered rich in most parts of the world, but not in NYC. You can just barely afford an apt. and support a family on that salary in Manhattan. A better way to measure how "rich" someone is, is by looking at their lifestyle. But even that doesn't take into account how badly they are in debt. In this debt based economy, good credit rating plays a larger factor in how "rich" someone is than the actually amount of money they have saved. I think health is a much better measure of privilege. I know a lot of disabled people and people in poor health who would trade their wealth for good health in a second. Age plays a large factor in one's health as well. Older people tend to be wealthier than younger people but most of them would give it all up to be young and healthy again. Gianthogweed fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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Burt Sexual posted:Wtf people? It's perfectly normal to be concerned about who is supposed to protect you. All this talk about Mr. Trump has made it distasteful to talk about politics ergo distasteful to talk about any subjects even loosely related to politics. Edit: ironically SA would be a good way to reach out to young voters to encourage them to do so, I mean it's meme central here. But that's neither here nor there. MageMage fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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MageMage posted:Edit: ironically SA would be a good way to reach out to young voters to encourage them to do so lol there are no young voters here
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Natalie Fartman posted:Things that make me mad: Did the coroner dig out the gun from the corpse's guts? No? Then stop calling it gun violence! 
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Natalie Fartman posted:Things that make me mad: Are the people claiming this that make you mad, or the countries that are doing this?
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MageMage posted:It's perfectly normal to be concerned about who is supposed to protect you. All this talk about Mr. Trump has made it distasteful to talk about politics ergo distasteful to talk about any subjects even loosely related to politics. Wtf does this even mean? Please reread the rules in the op. Then post accordingly
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Small town East TN goon here. Went into town today to get essential items, wore my n95 and gloves, and people look at me like I'm crazy. Especially senoir citizens. Hardly anyone uses the 6 foot rule, and few stores enforce anything (Walmart only has a count of people going in and out, with a small aisle way made of carts and tape to enter and exit the store at the front doors). Found out a few days ago my neighbor has it, but luckily my wife and I stay away from all people in this area, so we are nowhere near them. Only heard from the neighbor because he came out on his porch and yelled it to my wife, cause he works for the Red Cross in the area. Oh yeah, Red Cross does not supply PPE to these people, so that's how they caught it. Everyone at work here is all talking about how great it is Trump is gonna open things back up along with Gov. Lee, and this is just a really bad flu, nothing more. We're all hosed, I hope everyone knows that. Tennessee is not taking it seriously at all, and it'll just keep spreading.
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Natalie Fartman posted:Things that make me mad: What bothers me is the inconsistency on how covid deaths are reported. For example, if someone died of pneumonia but it was caused by a virus like the flu, the CDC normally categorizes the cause of death as pneumonia. But they don't do the same for pneumonia deaths that were caused by covid. This does inflate the number of reported covid deaths and presents a distorted picture. I have no doubt that there would be an alarmingly high number of covid deaths reported even if they did remain consistent, but treating covid as a special case that inflates the number raises red flags for people and provides fuel for the conspiracy theorists.
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mrfart posted:Are the people claiming this that make you mad, or the countries that are doing this? The people claiming this. Covid kills from its complications, so if a person is more prone to complications it doesn't mean Covid didn't kill them it means they were more fragile in the first place.
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Apr 10, 2020 22:08
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yeah but it's like just tennessee so i mean no big deal man
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Rutibex posted:in a legal sense he can't do it. but if the situation deteriorates enough he can just declare it anyway and it will come down to if the military is loyal to Trump or Congress Or loyal to the Constitution. If every non-chud state calls his bluff and proceeds with elections, do red state voters obey their Strong Dad and stay home? How does the military help Trump in this situation? I'm not sure the Joint Chiefs of Staff want to go down in history as Trump lackeys who deployed troops to keep Americans away from voting booths.
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my rice cooker just broke. again. (zojirushi, had it repaired under warranty a year ago for the exact same issue) 
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Mozi posted:my rice cooker just broke. again. (zojirushi, had it repaired under warranty a year ago for the exact same issue) How did it break now I’m worried about my Zojirushi
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Mozi posted:my rice cooker just broke. again. (zojirushi, had it repaired under warranty a year ago for the exact same issue) Alton has you covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qe-7tuMOIY
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Really? How does that work? quote:Inpatient management revolves around the supportive management of the most common complications of severe COVID-19: pneumonia, hypoxemic respiratory failure/ARDS, sepsis and septic shock, cardiomyopathy and arrhythmia, acute kidney injury, and complications from prolonged hospitalization including secondary bacterial infections, thromboembolism, gastrointestinal bleeding, and critical illness polyneuropathy/myopathy During the H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009, secondary bacterial infections were also common. https://www.healio.com/pediatrics/n...on-with-viruses quote:Findings were observed by Kash and colleagues, who infected mice with sublethal doses of 2009 seasonal H1N1 and pandemic H1N1, then followed this with infection with Streptococcus pneumoniae 48 hours later. Infection with pandemic disease plus S. pneumonia resulted in severe disease and a 100% fatality rate. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5481322/ quote:Laboratory, clinical and epidemiological research has made it abundantly clear that bacterial co/secondary infection can significantly increase the morbidity and mortality of viral infections (Gupta et al., 2008). Up to 75% of those infected with influenza that go on to acquire pneumonia, are confirmed to have bacterial co-infection (Zambon, 2001). Bacterial co/secondary infection of influenza infection appears to occur frequently. Studies have shown that up to 65% of laboratory confirmed cases of influenza infection exhibited bacterial co/secondary infection, although Klein et al. (2016) state that in the majority of the research included in their meta-analysis this figure ranged between 11 and 35%. In the setting of an influenza epidemic or pandemic bacterial co/secondary infection can have devastating consequences, particularly in at-risk groups such as the immunocompromised/immunosuppressed. Immunosuppression is associated with more severe morbidity and a much higher risk of mortality from co/secondary bacterial infection (Rice et al., 2012). During the 2009 Swine influenza pandemic, there was an increase in hospital pneumonia cases as a result of secondary bacterial pneumonia, which was identified in 29–55% of mortalities Secondary infections real loving bad yo
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bird with big dick posted:How did it break now I’m worried about my Zojirushi it just stops recognizing when you plug it in. probably a fuse or something dumb but it's not made to be able to be replaced Fabulousity posted:Alton has you covered: yes fortunately there are other ways to make rice soft and filled with water, thank god
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Fabulousity posted:Alton has you covered: That’s so much effort to make rice tho.
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Gianthogweed posted:What bothers me is the inconsistency on how covid deaths are reported. For example, if someone died of pneumonia but it was caused by a virus like the flu, the CDC normally categorizes the cause of death as pneumonia. But they don't do the same for pneumonia deaths that were caused by covid. This does inflate the number of reported covid deaths and presents a distorted picture. I have no doubt that there would be an alarmingly high number of covid deaths reported even if they did remain consistent, but treating covid as a special case that inflates the number raises red flags for people and provides fuel for the conspiracy theorists. Argh, it's all so confusing and I don't want to fall for some conspiracy or some hysteria over this. I get what you're saying, and it does pose a problem that they would classify flu related pneumonia differently to covid. Is it possibly because the flu doesn't usually result in pneumonia, whereas with Covid, it will result in pneumonia unless it's mild?
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Your Moms Ahegao posted:During the H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009, secondary bacterial infections were also common. I had a minor case of H1N1 in the fall of 2009 when I was a senior in college- and when I say minor, I mean it took a bit before it even dawned on me that I was sick and that the chills/suddenly being hot weren’t my parents loving with the thermostat. I got pneumonia after that almost put me in the hospital. I was sick for two weeks and went from 179 pounds to 155 or so. I looked like “Skeletor after a round of chemo” according to one of my friends. It was awful. My lung capacity was jacked for about two months after.
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LonesomeCrowdedWest posted:I wonder how many people are negative at the time of testing and then catch it 10 mins later on their way home or whatever given my own experience I'm now convinced this poo poo has near-supernatural levels of contagiousness and that the only way you won't catch this is if you're like that family in the Soviet Union that was isolated from all human contact for like 40 years. So yeah, I think a negative result for this isn't going to be useful for peace of mind the way it would for like, literally any other disease.
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Mozi posted:yes fortunately there are other ways to make rice soft and filled with water, thank god Yeah but not warm and delicious for days straight. Ours has gotten more use in the last three weeks than the previous 6 months. We made a bunch of black beans and a bunch of saag paneer and have been mixing and matching with the rice for the last week.
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TenTonHammer posted:Small town East TN goon here. Why/how do you have an n95 mask
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