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Sodomy Hussein posted:If the Democrats go down in November it'll be as much Bernie's failure as anyone's. lol go gently caress yourself Bernie didn’t ratfuck himself by talking several centrists—who had performed better than Biden to that point—to unexpectedly and without precedence drop out of the race and coalesce around an aging centrist corpse. If Dems lose in November it is because they went all-out against progressivism in favor of an ancient, uninspiring white corporatist with no policy chops whatsoever—who is also an alleged rapist. They got what they wanted. Maybe they’ll accept blame for the first time in their miserable loving lives they wont
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I thought we were done with the Bernie post-mortems in this thread. I voted Bernie in my primary after Liz dropped out and now I'd like some quiet so I can accept both of my candidates being knocked out of the running. Thx.
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He undermined a democratic process in order to selfishly and paternalistically ensure that his chosen heir would win the primary, because that's Obama thinks is best for the country, his legacy, and his rich friends. You don't have a problem with that? Groovelord Neato posted:Warren hurt Sanders but Obama getting Pete to drop out in an unprecendented move was far more damaging. It's not unprecedented though, he made the same kind of moves in the DNC chair election, sandbagging Ellison to elevate Perez (a crony technocrat who has never won a real election) - and Buttigieg was in the running there too. Obama only has one move but he's a loving coward who can't stand the idea of people not venerating him so he'll never take a stand openly. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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Remember when KY Govenor went wild with pardons? https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1248679699460567040 quote:A 24-year-old man who was pardoned by former Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin was arrested this week on a federal child pornography charge, the US Attorney for the Western District of Kentucky said.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Bernie campaign actively working to move Biden left on key issues and unite the party, leftist twitter as usual full of people who put death before dishonor. It's an incredibly bad sign that the Democrats' goal isn't winning in November, rather pre-maneuvering to pin the blame on Bernie for a loss. In 2008 Obama had a waaaay stronger case that Hillary should deserve the blame for a loss, not only did she run an insanely negative and damaging (and turbo-racist) campaign against him, she clung to the race beyond all rhyme or reason, past the point the she had zero mathematical way forward, to the point of total irrationality, even suggesting he might be assassinated and she would need to smoothly take over. How much of his campaign involved pre-pinning the blame on her, zero, because he was running to win, not to find a way to take her down with him. This obsession with finding a way to blame Bernie is depressingly revealing of the lack of confidence Democrats have in their candidate's ability to win.
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It's been interesting to see the propaganda flip from "Biden is the most electable candidate ever because he will flip all the moderate Republicans" to "it will be all Bernie's fault when Biden loses" What happened to all those moderate Republican voters who are supposed to change parties and easily secure a Biden landslide, hunh I guess that was always a lie then? I guess the real strategy was always: pick a loser, spend six months sneering at voters, blame everyone else for failure.
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wow if only there were some way to avoid having a reputation for treating your employees poorly if only there were some way to....what if I, oh I've got it.....get them to shut up about their poor treatment!
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quote:Some portion of people will now forever know me as a union-buster, and much worse, as a boss who treats his employees poorly
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hey if he wants Nebraska and Idaho to open back up then whatever. States that aren’t desolate nothingness won’t listen. I think that's the plan, insofar as there is a plan (since there isn't, really). Trump can't directly force states to end social distancing and quarantines, but he can get compliant red state governors to go along with it by the end of this month, probably. Then, he'll have another reason to go out and whine about the states that are still practicing containment measures, cry about horrible Dem governors who are very mean to him and bad for their states' economies, and demand people vote R. Once states start to "opening up" so to speak, expect cuts to what Federal aid there is still going to the other states. FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1248649126524354560?s=20 The Roiland Harmon method
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Remember when KY Govenor went wild with pardons? He very obviously shouldn't have been pardoned in the first place but I'm not thrilled that prosecutors can go and say "oh, really? well, we can dive back into his history and find a new charge from earlier for this guy, then." but arguing this point is going to force me to stand up for a child molester, so, uh, I think that's my last word on this one
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GreyjoyBastard posted:https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1248649126524354560?s=20 What a loving moron Cenk is.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Even if you're dumb enough to believe that Biden won Super Tuesday organically how do you not understand what an indictment that is of the Democratic base. I’ve been accepting that this says a lot about the democratic base since Super Tuesday. What we need to think about now is how we can move forward with the base willing to vote this way. Stamping our feet about it feels good but the end result is that we have a binary choice, and we need to find a way to help the most people in this poo poo situation. Making it worse shouldn’t be on the table at all.
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Haschel Cedricson posted:In Oregon the beaches are legally public highways. This is why the Department of Transportation famously was responsible for exploding a whale carcass. Shout out to home town Florence!
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Okan170 posted:I’ve been accepting that this says a lot about the democratic base since Super Tuesday. What we need to think about now is how we can move forward with the base willing to vote this way. Stamping our feet about it feels good but the end result is that we have a binary choice, and we need to find a way to help the most people in this poo poo situation. Making it worse shouldn’t be on the table at all. do iraqis count as people yet
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Groovelord Neato posted:Even if you're dumb enough to believe that Biden won Super Tuesday organically how do you not understand what an indictment that is of the Democratic base. Yeah the base is bunch of loving morons who will do anything Obama tells them and shithead resistance moms who don't care that Joe Biden raped someone as long as they can think about politics less when Trump loses. So what is the next step from that realization?
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mcmagic posted:Yeah the base is bunch of loving morons who will do anything Obama tells them and shithead resistance moms so don't care that Joe Biden raped someone as long as they can think about politics less when Trump loses. So what is the next step from that realization? Lol
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mcmagic posted:Yeah the base is bunch of loving morons who will do anything Obama tells them and shithead resistance moms who don't care that Joe Biden raped someone as long as they can think about politics less when Trump loses. So what is the next step from that realization? “Black church ladies are loving morons,”: a true leftist take
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VitalSigns posted:It's been interesting to see the propaganda flip from "Biden is the most electable candidate ever because he will flip all the moderate Republicans" to "it will be all Bernie's fault when Biden loses" 
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mcmagic posted:Yeah the base is bunch of loving morons who will do anything Obama tells them and shithead resistance moms who don't care that Joe Biden raped someone as long as they can think about politics less when Trump loses. So what is the next step from that realization? Unfortunately it's been deemed the proper response to it is not acceptable discussion in this thread.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Remember when KY Govenor went wild with pardons? Kind of nice to see the feds say 'gently caress that' to his pardon and go after him for the same set of behavior.
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whydirt posted:“Black church ladies are loving morons,”: a true leftist take Voting for Biden was a moronic act no matter who did it. And it encompasses many demographics.
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Unoriginal Name posted:do iraqis count as people yet It literally doesn’t matter anymore. At this point all I can do is vote against Trump. All other nuance doesn’t even factor in, this primary showed that progressive change is literally not possible through the system. Any real reform will have to go outside the system, but I am not going to ever loving live with myself if I in any way contribute to Trump getting a second term. Edit I’m not saying more that that out side the primary thread. Okan170 fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:Unfortunately it's been deemed the proper response to it is not acceptable discussion in this thread. If the answer is a Maoist revolution of the peasantry i want someone to tell me how that is going to happen because I don't see it.
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whydirt posted:“Black church ladies are loving morons,”: a true leftist take they voted for a guy who was, last year (the year of our lord 2019), touting his work with james eastland opposing de-segregation
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Groovelord Neato posted:Obama getting Pete to drop out in an unprecendented move was far more damaging. How closely did you actually read the article because it very specifically says he didn't contact Pete (and Klobuchar) until after they dropped out. HootTheOwl posted:Well not Bloomberg because the post I replied to was a "But didn't Biden have his own spoiler?". You're right I'm making assumptions about her support and I don't get any further into it here because it's primary chat but I believe Warren->Sanders voters are just as plentiful, proportionally, as Bloomberg -> Biden voters would have been if both dropped out during the great dropout between SC and super tuesday. This is based on both second-choice polling and anecdotes from former supporters of both sides. This is... not supported by the evidence. Warren voters may have supported Bernie to a slightly greater degree in some cases, but in Texas for instance they would have had to break towards Bernie 70-30 to beat Biden, all other things being equal. Policy isn't everything, and there were a lot of people who supported Warren specially because she wasn't Bernie, and it's not fair to say Warren killed Sanders' chances merely by existing—especially when she absorbed a lot of hits in October/November that gave Sanders an opening to start breaking away from the pack in Iowa.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Yeah, I don't think the "economy" is opening up this month, or next month. Our company has quite a bit of retired teachers that are in their upper 60's and are expressing concern that without a working vaccine, and how asymptomatics can easily pass on COVID, there's no point in returning to work. I'm all for that - it's just that there are unfortunately a lot of jobs that require workers to be in close proximity of others, and that can't work unless there's a vaccine for sure. Anyone who thinks that the economy is opening up soon is delusional and not paying attention to anything. This is all purely anecdotal so I'm not going to say it's absolutely representative, but both of my larger clients have their WFH plans in place through the summer at a minimum. Lamont is keeping CT schools closed tentatively until May 20th, but the people I know in four different districts are expecting remote learning to continue throughout the entire calendar year. They're already making plans for next year's remote lessons. The most optimistic I can possibly be is that we'll have partial restrictions lifted in June, and that's only if we somehow get our act together with testing. The White House is full of idiots, but plenty of state governors understand exactly what will happen if they relax guidelines too soon.
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1248697421607075840  This poo poo is comedy gold He really doesn't have any clue about anything. 10 year olds know what a virus vs a bacteria is
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1248697421607075840 I'm going to tell my future kids how stupid Trump was and how the media ignored it.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:How closely did you actually read the article because it very specifically says he didn't contact Pete (and Klobuchar) until after they dropped out. Time-Traveling Obama does it again! 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:How closely did you actually read the article because it very specifically says he didn't contact Pete (and Klobuchar) until after they dropped out. I wasn't commenting on that article - it was reported they had contact back then. I don't believe for a second Pete dropped out of his own volition. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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TulliusCicero posted:
lol that's a remarkably common thing to say. people i went to school with who i know knew the difference between bacteria and viruses are posting poo poo like this on facebook all the time. i really do wonder where and when people forget these things. it's not just that it's forgotten, there's a resistance to remembering as well. *zizek voice* ideology, i suppose
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I remember back in the day when Arzy'ing was such an isolated phenomenon that we had a name for it. While I don't mind the end to the smug certainty that everything will be fine that 2016 definitely brought about, the sea change to We're All Arzy has been really real.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah the base is bunch of loving morons who will do anything Obama tells them and shithead resistance moms who don't care that Joe Biden raped someone as long as they can think about politics less when Trump loses. So what is the next step from that realization? Say it with me: Bernie was never going to win the general. Everyone over like 45 is terrified of the word socialism. If young people (too lazy) and minorities (complete suppression) did/could vote consistently, Bernie might have had a chance. But unfortunately we do not live in that world in the year 2020.
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Memnaelar posted:I thought we were done with the Bernie post-mortems in this thread. I voted Bernie in my primary after Liz dropped out and now I'd like some quiet so I can accept both of my candidates being knocked out of the running. Thx. As soon as the primary thread stops leaking into USPOL to spread conspiracy theories blaming everyone but Bernie for losing the primary (badly!), those will stop. LeeMajors posted:lol go gently caress yourself If they're all polling better than Biden then we're just quibbling about who Bernie would have lost to. Unfortunately Bernie's strategy depended on the moderates never uniting, which was totally unrealistic.
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Spite posted:Say it with me: Bernie was never going to win the general. Everyone over like 45 is terrified of the word socialism. A majority of Democratic voters in almost every single state that's voted so far has signaled they have a positive view of the word "socialism." quote:If young people (too lazy) and minorities (complete suppression) did/could vote consistently, Bernie might have had a chance. Young people got their votes suppressed too actually. Casting it as "too lazy" is...well, extremely lazy of you.
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