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Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The main thing I've noticed when going to the supermarket is that people are happy obeying the two metre rule while queueing... But on the way to the queue will walk directly past everyone, because there's a barrier in between them.

I'd laugh it off as one of those blind spots people have if wasn't going to kill shitloads of people.

Walking past people and spending a second or two near them is significantly less dangerous than standing in a queue for 20+ minutes right next to one another.

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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

teacup posted:

I was wondering, with the UK looking to be one of the worst affected European countries at this point, how will this play politically? Like I get whatever excuses but surely even the most ardent conservatives will look at the fact that you are an island, had a good month on Italy and still walked into this?

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

teacup posted:

I was wondering, with the UK looking to be one of the worst affected European countries at this point, how will this play politically? Like I get whatever excuses but surely even the most ardent conservatives will look at the fact that you are an island, had a good month on Italy and still walked into this?

The people that voted for Brexit and elected Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson are sure to be very introspective after this crisis is over.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Working ventilators from Holby City set donated to NHS Nightingale

Weirdly snarky line in this article

quote:

It was not immediately clear how many ventilators had been donated, or why working medical equipment was used on set.

In times when ventilators are plentiful, why wouldn't you just buy one from the manufacturer, rather than spending loads more time and money creating a prop from scratch? :confused:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

The official Labour party position remains that the party is committed to two-state solution, achieved via peaceful negotiations, that lead to a secure Israel and a viable Palestine, so Starmer has plenty of party ground to stand on here. The first thing that the ANC did in the peace negotiations was agree to suspend the armed struggle and disarm (in practice they retreated to Uganda and Tanzania, but nonetheless the disarmament was effective: the attacks stopped. The inability of any Palestinian leadership to enforce any disarmament it theoretically agrees to is the big I/P sticking point)

Composite 12 passed last year at Conference tried to smuggle in a big asterisk to the two state solution (it demanded a 1967 borders Israel with Palestinian right of return, i.e., tacitly for two states both with a Palestinian majority, assuming the third generation in Jordan does want to migrate back) but even its cautious phrasing got immediately discarded at the subsequent Clause V manifesto meeting, which reverted to the Milibandesque language
The two state solution is just the Bantustans with the settlers keeping all the best land all over again, and Palestine is majority Sunni so it's not like they could even have any cool casinos like Bophuthatswana (which is not recognized by my spellcheck, much like it wasn't by the UN).

And I'd debate whether the ANC ever did disarm, given that ANC mayors keep getting done for politically motivated murders.

I'd just like a straight answer from Sir Keir on whether or not he would support an Afrikaner homeland, or whether it's just the politically correct ethnostates that he supports, and whether he believes that Britain should apologize for its part in why Afrikaners feel they need an ethnostate for their protection.

(The correct answer is that you can and should apologize for genocides without supporting ethnostate nonsense.)

e:

pumpinglemma posted:

aging tories spreading it far and wide in one final act of spite towards their descendants.
More like one final act of private ownership.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Apr 11, 2020

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

teacup posted:

I was wondering, with the UK looking to be one of the worst affected European countries at this point, how will this play politically? Like I get whatever excuses but surely even the most ardent conservatives will look at the fact that you are an island, had a good month on Italy and still walked into this?

Pick any and all of:

1) It was China's fault
2) It was the EU's fault
3) It was the NHS's fault (so it has to be privatised)
4) It was the British people's fault for going to parks, beaches and workplaces thanks to inconsistent despite clear government advice instructions
5) It was the immigrants' fault for bringing foreign diseases to our antiseptic sceptered isle.
6) It was Jeremy Corbyn's fault for not immediately and unconditionally agreeing with everything Boris did or said.
7) How can you blame Boris for failing to control the virus when he himself had the virus?
8) How dare you make this natural disaster a political issue by pointing out all the political factors that made the UK disproportionately badly affected!
9) Now is not the time to be asking those sorts of questions. The 200,000 victims of coronavirus would have wanted us to press on with a no-deal Brexit as soon as possible.

Basically anything and everything that allows the Party of Personal Responsibility to pass the buck and avoid taking any responsibility for their part in this.

Edit:

Bobstar posted:

Working ventilators from Holby City set donated to NHS Nightingale

Weirdly snarky line in this article


In times when ventilators are plentiful, why wouldn't you just buy one from the manufacturer, rather than spending loads more time and money creating a prop from scratch? :confused:

I quickly grew tired of explaining this to people on social media (yeah, I know, I brought that on myself...). Including some.guy who was desperate to make this an example not only of BBC waste and profligacy but of the BBC actively killing people by hoarding medical equipment, pandemic or no. Even though it's massively cheaper and easier to just buy ventilators than to make realistic-looking props.

BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Apr 11, 2020

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost
Three million go hungry in UK because of lockdown (paywall)

"Research shows stark drops in income have pushed many families into poverty"

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

ronya posted:

The inability of any Palestinian leadership to enforce any disarmament it theoretically agrees to is the big I/P sticking point)

lol what, I think the fact that Israel isn't really interested in negotiating anything and prefers to just invest Gaza and annex the west bank is probably "the big I/P sticking point"

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Necrothatcher posted:

Walking past people and spending a second or two near them is significantly less dangerous than standing in a queue for 20+ minutes right next to one another.

following the supermarket arrow conveyor system on the floor never works because you always get stuck behind Blind Old Miggins who has to forensically examine every individual onion and biscuit packet and the queue following them backs up to wait their turn. I'll just go grab my other stuff and come back when they're done

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

teacup posted:

I was wondering, with the UK looking to be one of the worst affected European countries at this point, how will this play politically? Like I get whatever excuses but surely even the most ardent conservatives will look at the fact that you are an island, had a good month on Italy and still walked into this?

I don't think being an island helps because planes/boats/tunnels exist.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Jippa posted:

I don't think being an island helps because planes/boats/tunnels exist.

Being an island absolutely helps, because it makes closing the borders to stop the spread way easier.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
good point liz why hasn't the leader of your party raised this?

https://twitter.com/leicesterliz/status/1248657977478991879?s=20

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Jippa posted:

I don't think being an island helps because planes/boats/tunnels exist.

What about all the water?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/sthompingground/status/1248884324306485248?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jippa posted:

planes/boats/tunnels exist.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
stellar work from the person behind the controls on immigration mug

https://twitter.com/jackseale/status/1248912012098314240

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
What I mean is surely the actual decision/political will to close your borders is more important than physical land barriers. That is where the UK messed up. We aren't repelling a zombie horde.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Also

https://twitter.com/RossKemp/status/1248631268549394432

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/1248747283811885056

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:




he's a good lad

bet phil wouldn't even wear ppe in that slaggin hospital

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

farenheit451 posted:

[delurk]
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That's not how HTML tags work ;p

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The main thing I've noticed when going to the supermarket is that people are happy obeying the two metre rule while queueing... But on the way to the queue will walk directly past everyone, because there's a barrier in between them.

I'd laugh it off as one of those blind spots people have if wasn't going to kill shitloads of people.

It's like in restaurants when you could smoke - there would be a partition between the smokers and non-smokers areas BUT it would be one of those lattice affairs with lots of holes so a non-smoker could be sitting right next to a smoker with a narrow strip of wood between you and gaping holes.

Also, I was reading an article yesterday about how you shouldn't 'slip stream' if you are cycling or running. If I'm out and do have to pass someone (with my scarf wound tightly about my fizzog), I don't unwrap it for several m in case droplets are hanging about in the air.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


RIP Ross

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Hey Guava, thanks for posting Purge Your Inner Tory - it's a great fuckin' song.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

feedmegin posted:

That's not how HTML tags work ;p

That's BBcode not HTML!!! u just got outnerded biatch

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Ratjaculation posted:

he's a good lad

bet phil wouldn't even wear ppe in that slaggin hospital

Phil has more pressing worries

https://twitter.com/Coldwar_Steve/status/1247979617446658049

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Surely the lockdown rules are so poo poo in order to make people blame each other for when the lockdown gets more severe, divide and conquer just like the good ol' days. It's less about stopping the virus than encouraging more division and hatefulness for your fellow citizen for the upcoming corona recession special event.

big scary monsters posted:

Is it too late for Johnson to relapse and die? I've changed my mind about seeing him survive to stand trial.

I know I posted the other day about not highlighting the medical risks of coronavirus, but there's more than a few reports of people recovering from coronavirus and having a heart attack less than a week later. He's not out of the woods yet.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1248569338896023552

The narrative commences to turn.

Also you can garner some schadenfreude from the replies, where the usual gang of gammons haven't yet adapted to the conflicting narrative and are about to start calling Oakeshott a traitor if they haven't already.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Bobstar posted:

Working ventilators from Holby City set donated to NHS Nightingale

Weirdly snarky line in this article


In times when ventilators are plentiful, why wouldn't you just buy one from the manufacturer, rather than spending loads more time and money creating a prop from scratch? :confused:

Could have bought second hand/broken ones but maybe they're destroyed since they're medical equipment idk.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The UK PM, to scale


Miftan posted:

Hey Guava, thanks for posting Purge Your Inner Tory - it's a great fuckin' song.
:) I saw them a few years ago when a bunch of anarcha-feminists put on a gig event.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Pistol_Pete posted:

This social distancing thing has really highlighted to me the people in supermarkets who stop, block the aisle and just stare at a random selection of goods for an extraordinary length of time. What are they thinking about? It is a mystery.

Which item to buy. Mate, if you don't stare in the chocolate aisle deciding if you'll get a bar of Galaxy or Dairy Milk or one of those peanut M&M bars or maybe treat yourself to that nice Godiva salted caramel for 15 minutes before deciding to just buy them all what are you doing with your live?

If you're going to make me live in a world of paralysingly excessive choice then I'm going to be paralysed making my choice

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


keep punching joe posted:

Obi wan : that boy was our last hope.

Yoda: no, there is another.

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNewsUK/status/1248873745084747776?s=19

I read through the replies to that tweet and was frankly crushed that no one had made a version of the Ghanaian pallbearers meme with Cummings running out of No. 10.

Humanity has let me down.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

justcola posted:

Surely the lockdown rules are so poo poo in order to make people blame each other for when the lockdown gets more severe, divide and conquer just like the good ol' days. It's less about stopping the virus than encouraging more division and hatefulness for your fellow citizen for the upcoming corona recession special event.

It's interesting that an undeveloped thought I had in January was that the Tories approach to maintaining power during the 5 years and winning the next election didn't have to be suitably rewarding the various new voters who they won due to Brexit to retain their loyalty but to instead continue to sow such total distrust amongst the population of the rest of the population that no alternate power blocs of meaningful size appear. This seems to continue to apply!

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Ratjaculation posted:

he's a good lad

bet phil wouldn't even wear ppe in that slaggin hospital

Didn't Ross Kemp used to be married to Rebekah Brooks? The same Rebekah Brooks who was connected to the News of the World during the phone hacking scandal that brought down the paper?

And didn't Brooks (allegedly) repeatedly beat the poo poo out of Kemp before he left their marriage?

I do feel sorry for Ross.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Guavanaut posted:

The UK PM, to scale


:vince:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

That article is already out of date. The IHME themselves have already nearly halved the quoted figure of 60+k deaths. Some of what they're saying is well presented and nice to contrast with other countries but they've used some bad assumptions somewhere and their numbers have not been bourne out by reality.

Sad King Billy
Jan 27, 2006

Thats three of ours innit...to one of yours. You know mate I really think we ought to even up the average!
Some people are fully paid up members of the Cult of Boris.
This chap got very annoyed at me for sharing something on Facebook that wasn't very complimentary about him.

''Shut up Billy.maybe you shouldn’t of given up your full time job to become a full time oval office 🤷‍♂️if your bored do something apart from trying to upset people.try having a wank.it may help with your politic issues.think of boris when when you are doing this please.👍''

Some people just can't be reasoned with.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

Didn't Ross Kemp used to be married to Rebekah Brooks? The same Rebekah Brooks who was connected to the News of the World during the phone hacking scandal that brought down the paper?

And didn't Brooks (allegedly) repeatedly beat the poo poo out of Kemp before he left their marriage?


yes, you are correct.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few



Sounds nasty.

I got disproportionately angry at people not following the arrows in Asda this morning, having to remind myself there are bigger problems in the world, like capitalism

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Jedit posted:

The narrative commences to turn.

Can't wait for every impact of brexit to be met with "actually that was the virus, nothing we could have done"

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