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Rincewinds posted:"The Land and the King are One." All they need is the return of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXUXI19XDno (Excalibur one of my favourite films)
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crispix posted:The eyes of a man who is alive in body only I know you're joking, but it got me thinking how I initially felt sorry for him for being washed up and doing QVC, before realising that he probably makes an extremely comfortable living and seems to be enjoying himself well enough from glancing through his Twitter  I wonder how much QVC presenters earn?
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Apr 11, 2020 20:40
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The worst tweet. https://twitter.com/emilyhewertson/status/1248993573262983169
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1249053545837604864 Sam Matthews was working for starmers leadership campaign
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1249053545837604864 https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1249053550665183237 loving fucks.
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The plp have sabotaged labour at the last 3 elections
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What do you expect out of a group of people who are encouraged to believe they're the most important people rather than literally being completely replaceable.
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Yeah I think the worst bit is they're convinced they could win an election despite the mountain of evidence that proves they couldn't
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I couldn't care less about the being rude or whatever but "Conversations which it is claimed show senior staff hid information from the leader's office about digital spending and contact details for MPs and candidates during the election" is something members should be allowed to know more about.
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Apr 11, 2020 21:08
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Vitamin P posted:I couldn't care less about the being rude or whatever but In the 2017 election, they did some very careful targeting of Facebook ads which meant only Corbyn and a few others saw them but they did not reach the wider electorate. This was deliberately done to trick Corbyn. The party right are a bloody disgrace and i'm glad they're getting no more of my money.
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Apr 11, 2020 21:12
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Vitamin P posted:I couldn't care less about the being rude or whatever but This presumably is the Facebook ad spending thing we’d heard about before where ads were ordered but the team responsible just didn’t bother doing them while saying they were.
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Jose posted:no surprise it was hodges vs o'brien in the centrist hack final on twitter Feel like Hodges shouldn't qualify as a centrist hack since he's obviously a right-winger who pretends to be left-wing to slag off the left and not really a centrist at all.
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Apr 11, 2020 21:18
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Should I even bother voting at this point, like at all? Is there any point to anything except a spoiled ballot? It's backstabbing careerists all the way down.
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Puntification posted:Feel like Hodges shouldn't qualify as a centrist hack since he's obviously a right-winger who pretends to be left-wing to slag off the left and not really a centrist at all. That's what a centrist is.
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Corbyn really never stood a chance did he. You can beat one party, but the opposition and your own? No chance.
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bessantj posted:Corbyn really never stood a chance did he. You can beat one party, but the opposition and your own? No chance. If he'd cleaned house of the right like Boris did to the "moderate" Tories he might.
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I noticed though that that sky report finished on a bum note with Matthews basically saying it was disgruntlement. Unfortunately, that bum note is what people who actually get to the bottom of it will remember.
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Lungboy posted:If he'd cleaned house of the right like Boris did to the "moderate" Tories he might. Except I don't see how he could? It's down to CLPs to deselect MPs not up to the party leader and both the last two elections were called at relatively short notice so incumbent MPs basically got to restand without scrutiny. It's a fault with party rules.
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gently caress, after reading that, I really want to thump someone.  Lungboy posted:If he'd cleaned house of the right like Boris did to the "moderate" Tories he might. It's much easier to withdraw the whip from MPs than to fire employees though.
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Sadly she probably could just scream FUTURE PRIME MINISTER down the mic and the media would lap it up.
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OwlFancier posted:That's what a centrist is. lol fair but being a daily mail columnist gives the game away that he's not even centre right.
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Well, to be fair she does, and will continue to do so as they drag her away in a straitjacket.
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XMNN posted:lol I just remembered when everyone was watching her fly home from Yeah, but she definitely isn't an anti-semite as shown by that scandal!
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Decorum needs to die, immediately. Sorry Corbyn/Bernie, you're completely irrelevant in today's world. You will always be a monument for what we could have had in a better world, but these people are the enemy and are completely insidious. Weeds need digging up at the root. Pricks. I hate loving everything right now.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:In the 2017 election, they did some very careful targeting of Facebook ads which meant only Corbyn and a few others saw them but they did not reach the wider electorate. This was deliberately done to trick Corbyn. Guess that's my 'what to read about to get angry this evening' topic sorted then. Jaeluni Asjil posted:The party right are a bloody disgrace and i'm glad they're getting no more of my money. I do get the impulse but it isn't a good idea to leave the Labour Party. If lefty people reject it in disgust then that's psychically satisfying but that's all it is, the wider political struggle still goes on except now Labours internal tensions have been settled, in an immediate sense it's a right-wing party and the longer that situation continues the more lasting internal control the right have over it. Like all the extra-electoral stuff is relevant but 99% of it can still be done whilst maintaining engagement in the Labour Party. Like it or not the party is a powerful, permanent fixture of British politics, it will always be there and if we surrender it then we're just giving it to them it's a terrible tactical decision. Think of it as like a massive artillery gun, if you get disgusted that it should be pointed at the enemy but it keeps drifting over to target your guys then yeah that sucks it's disgusting but that big loving gun is always gonna be there it's always going to part of the battle so it's better to keep your access to it even if it's just to chuck something in the gears when you're occasionally able to. And it's easy to get deeply dispirited but this current moment is maybe as strong as they are ever going to be; their victory with Starmer is awful but conference still exists and can be used, it's clearly a response to the Corbyn defeat but that defeat took a literally unprecedented combination of historical first media bias, smearing and internal sabotage EDIT; and the loving brexit event! for them to achieve it isn't something they could necessarily replicate in 5 years time and most importantly the Corbyn movement was policy led, it was a material response to conditions Starmer will do nothing whatsoever to alleviate. Vitamin P fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Lungboy posted:If he'd cleaned house of the right like Boris did to the "moderate" Tories he might. Night of the long gardening fork.
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Vitamin P posted:Guess that's my 'what to read about to get angry this evening' topic sorted then. I left mainly because the I/P issue is extremely personal to me and the Palestinians are going to be chucked under a bus. I was thinking of leaving before the election (not just the I/P issues, but also some of these things in this report re McNicol, sabotage of election etc I already knew about), but hung on so not to let the local party down, the moment the leadership candidates all signed up to the BoD pledges was the final straw for me.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Decorum needs to die, immediately. Sorry Corbyn/Bernie, you're completely irrelevant in today's world. You will always be a monument for what we could have had in a better world, but these people are the enemy and are completely insidious. Weeds need digging up at the root. Pricks. I hate loving everything right now. As much as I'm also filled with rage, they also shot themselves in the foot once again by not submitting the loving thing a month ago when it was completed. Who cares if it's within the remit or not, just make it public, otherwise it's pointless to spend the gazillion hours preparing the document.
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I mean the rationale still applies, handing them uncontested control of the party doesn't seem helpful if you don't like their policy?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I left mainly because the I/P issue is extremely personal to me and the Palestinians are going to be chucked under a bus. I was thinking of leaving before the election (not just the I/P issues, but also some of these things in this report re McNicol, sabotage of election etc I already knew about), but hung on so not to let the local party down, the moment the leadership candidates all signed up to the BoD pledges was the final straw for me. Yeah if I/P is personal to you I'm not going to try and by-your-logic you on leaving, the party has become a loving moral sewer on the issue and I can't imagine how offensive and like, genuinely hurtful this must feel if it's an issue you're personally connected to.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean the rationale still applies, handing them uncontested control of the party doesn't seem helpful if you don't like their policy? I think someone leaving because they just really want rail nationalisation and more social housing and loving Kier Won't Meaningfully Address Them is a bit reee, but leaving because the new leadership is dogwhistling that it's down with the genociding of people you personally know are a bit different. Edit: not even dogwhistling actually Starmer isn't an idiot, he knows full well that declaring unreserved zionism is greenlighting systemically murdering children because they happened to be born in the wrong place there's no ambiguity there Vitamin P fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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https://news.sky.com/story/labour-antisemitism-investigation-will-not-be-sent-to-equality-commission-11972071 gently caress the labour party. it shall never see me again. it doesn't deserve to see me again. have fun going back to voting for the lesser evil for the next 20 years.
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Vitamin P posted:I think someone leaving because they just really want rail nationalisation and more social housing and loving Kier Won't Meaningfully Address Them is a bit reee, but leaving because the new leadership is dogwhistling that it's down with the genociding of people you personally know are a bit different. If both are fundamental material needs (which I would argue they are) and you don't want the british government to forever be in favour of loving you and your kindred over via them (which is a good thing to want) then I would suggest that the rationale is the same? If you're going to be personally hurt by their actions that's an even better reason to want to avert them? It's you who loses out if they aren't stopped. It's voluntarily scattering your opposition to things that need to be opposed, it doesn't make sense. You can't get anywhere by screaming into the void in a perfectly atomized society. And more to the point if you disengage more strongly the more personal your need is, you're literally hurting yourself the most. So it's not even a moral appeal really, it's suggesting that people might not want to punch themselves in the face. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Vitamin P posted:I think someone leaving because they just really want rail nationalisation and more social housing and loving Kier Won't Meaningfully Address Them is a bit reee, but leaving because the new leadership is dogwhistling that it's down with the genociding of people you personally know are a bit different. Reee? Really now?
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