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Prince John posted:Is there someone out there archiving all of twitter? Feels like someone must be.  , but it might be a bit tricky to get the details out of them. The Web Archive probably have most of it, but navigating it to get individual posts is nadgery as hell
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Prince John posted:Is there someone out there archiving all of twitter? Feels like someone must be. Not sure the NSA will be up for helping here.
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Article in the Daily Fail!quote:BBC bosses have warned interviewers not to put ministers under pressure over coronavirus crisis, says former Today presenter John Humphrys source: fail/news/article-8210271/BBC-bosses-warning-interviewers-not-ministers-pressure-coronavirus-crisis.html
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Apr 12, 2020 18:19
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The report in full, get it while it's hot: https://t.co/muyBUqtzn1
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thespaceinvader posted:There probably would have been whilst they were in post, if any of their managers ever cared to pursue it, but I doubt there is now. yeah  hopefully this will be off the cards at least https://twitter.com/peter_pindar/status/1249376055779090432?s=20 Josef bugman posted:I hope, sincerely, that this makes at least part of the Starmer group get worried/ react. I'd hope that one wing of the party deliberately sabotaging our chances at victory just to spite the other would be something that the unity candidate would want to look into, but I'm pretty sure "unity" is just a codeword for putting Phillips, streeting and Kinnock in the cabinet I just can't see how the trust between members/activists and the party can be rebuilt unless they actually address this utter betrayal
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Ms Adequate posted:I'm so glad I'm not the only know who knows the TRUE origin of "simp" Though not well enough to know it's 2000AD, not AD2000. Grexnix.
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guess we know what pissflasps has been up to post-threadban https://twitter.com/newliquidvessel/status/1249381342485217282
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Apr 12, 2020 18:24
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She's also the wife of Jonathan Ashworth, the Shadow Health Secretary. There's no way any of these people are getting cleared out. https://twitter.com/TheSinanKose/status/1249385413908877312 
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Apr 12, 2020 18:25
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Right finally time to resign from unison, I'm a member of iww as well but are any of the large unions worth anything or are they all completely defanged?
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Failed Imagineer posted:guess we know what pissflasps has been up to post-threadban We already know who the one person was - it was Margaret Hodge. I don't know why they were being coy about it.
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Apr 12, 2020 18:31
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https://twitter.com/JonArgles/status/1249363585937149960?s=20 (Is Jon on here? I have some notion he might be).
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Apr 12, 2020 18:33
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chestnut santabag posted:The report in full, get it while it's hot: Cheers!
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Apr 12, 2020 18:34
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Do you think though that this report has been leaked now specifically to 'encourage' a lot of lefties to leave the party in disgust?
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Seeing Boris Johnson give a speech in good health was incredibly depressing and reminded me how god loving hates us.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Do you think though that this report has been leaked now specifically to 'encourage' a lot of lefties to leave the party in disgust? I was sorta thinking this, but then I thought it was my paranoid brain coming up with some sort of reason for a 'fix'.
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Chucat posted:I was sorta thinking this, but then I thought it was my paranoid brain coming up with some sort of reason for a 'fix'. It's this, not every has a reason or a plan behind it. The resilience of capitalism is that it is in the class interests of capitalists to defend it so they will all independently, not that there is a shadowy cabal propping it up.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
Or anyone with firehose or a big 'research' dataset
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I do hope people stick around (while continuing to vocally register their anger). The last thing we need is the membership collapsing and handing the whole party back to the neolibs. Here's hoping we get a left-led challenge in the near future. I'd spunk my pants if Big John decided to openly run against Starmer - and I think he'd probably win. RLB is generally a good egg but we threw the election by having her as our candidate. She's by no means bad but she lacked the necessary charisma and campaigning ability. A veteran, recognisable, and articulate left-labour candidate would I think have had a much better shot at it. He almost certainly won't though. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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Chucat posted:I was sorta thinking this, but then I thought it was my paranoid brain coming up with some sort of reason for a 'fix'. Lol me too, I got halfway through typing up a post about it before shouting myself down. e: Only about a third of my posts actually get as far as me pressing the Post button - given the average quality of them, imagine the stuff that gets rejected. As always I look to AD Wintle for guidance: quote:From Lt. Col. A.D. Wintle. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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chestnut santabag posted:The report in full, get it while it's hot: You beauty.
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ThomasPaine posted:I do hope people stick around (while continuing to vocally register their anger). The last thing we need is the membership collapsing and handing the whole party back to the neolibs. I don't think McDonnell would though. I read somewhere he only stuck around because Corbyn won the leadership. He has been pretty ill I think.
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XMNN posted:yeah 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I don't think McDonnell would though. I read somewhere he only stuck around because Corbyn won the leadership. He has been pretty ill I think. Yeah, I know. It's a shame, he'd be great. Someone like Ian Lavery might have been a good shout.
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Apr 12, 2020 18:49
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The Save the Sun guy (but for foodbanks really) has got over £14.6k now. https://www.gofundme.com/f/save-the-sun-newspaper
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Apr 12, 2020 18:52
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The Antisemitism reporter isn't Hodge, she was only responsible for like 100 cases. The way Gnasher is reacting to this report and all the data being leaked however does point the finger somewhat.
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serious gaylord posted:The Antisemitism reporter isn't Hodge, she was only responsible for like 100 cases. Is that them who think it's Tweetman?
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Apr 12, 2020 18:54
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https://twitter.com/PopulismExpert/status/1249094854199709696 Listen I know jokes about cucking are not really the ticket, but come on Harry Coles has to be getting off on this or something.
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Apr 12, 2020 18:55
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I'm already in a union I can vote without being a member.
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Apr 12, 2020 18:57
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Do you think though that this report has been leaked now specifically to 'encourage' a lot of lefties to leave the party in disgust? It's hard not to reach for the tinfoil hat, looking at what's just happened. I guess the most constructive angle we can take is that Labour were within a bee's dick of winning in 2017 despite all this. The policies and excitement and er, momentum that carried us to that high water mark would have succeeded. The platform of muscular left wing policies put forth in 2017 was a winner, and can be again, if the party leadership hardens itself against sabotage and cynical attempts to make a tar pit of the antisemitism investigation.
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Showing my naivite but I'm shocked that one of the offenders in this little group of people working behind the scenes against the party of Corbyn was a high up in a major union. What the gently caress are they even for?
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Folks, what do we do about who we are? Is there something that kind of acts like duolingo for the soul, where every day you just go and do something very small that helps people. Or something larger, I don't know. How do we improve and fix ourselves? Isomermaid posted:Showing my naivite but I'm shocked that one of the offenders in this little group of people working behind the scenes against the party of Corbyn was a high up in a major union. What the gently caress are they even for? Themselves/ This is the problem, people think that the way they achieved power is the only way to achieve it, and without a context to wrap it in, it becomes a bludgeon to maintain itself. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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the compliance bit of that report is pretty eye opening, it basically confirms that it was purely a weapon against Corbyn supporters one of the people on that panorama antisemitism program, Sam Matthews, was in charge of it e.g. quote:In total, the searches, along with other complaints submitted by email, flagged 11,250 e: not sure why copy and paste hosed up the formatting so bad
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Josef bugman posted:Folks, what do we do about who we are? u clap for the nhs
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The section about Chris Williamson near the end of the report (page 825) is interesting.
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ThomasPaine posted:I do hope people stick around (while continuing to vocally register their anger). The last thing we need is the membership collapsing and handing the whole party back to the neolibs. pls no lol its embarassing "big john" was the most rightward tacking element of corbynism and basically sold out on left economics
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Josef bugman posted:Folks, what do we do about who we are? Well one thing you can do, and quite a few of my FB friends are doing is posting one positive image or video every day - whether it's flowers or cats or religious stuff - depending on their inclinations. I have spates of doing that, staying off entirely and posting my themed 'midnight playlists' (which everyone hates LOL ). So maybe you could do that on here or on FB if you're on there, like the posters doing birbs and gardens? Maybe pick a theme that appeals to you and do that? It might be small, but it is helpful I think to have some relief from the unrelenting crap news!
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Communist Thoughts posted:pls no lol its embarassing I know breathless despair is kinda your posting gimmick but this is pretty revisionist. Yes, McDonnell put on the kid gloves a little when talking to businesses, to make himself seem palatable and jovial. Internet communists hate this, yes. But he was the shadow chancellor trying to win an election for a mainstream centre-left party, and was dealing with constant accusations that he was a Stalinist anyway. What precisely should he have done? Lead with a policy of 'liquidate all private enterprise'? Sure, we'd lap that up but if you think the Overton Window in Britain is anywhere near a position where that would have gone over well amongst the general public you're delusional. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that he wouldn't have been the most left-wing chancellor in parliament's history had Labour won the election. Being smart with what you say and what you don't, regardless of your actual personal opinions, is a pretty essential skill for a politician. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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Jedit posted:Though not well enough to know it's 2000AD, not AD2000. Grexnix. I take alot of drugs in the morning and it takes me a while to get up to speed.
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