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Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

cant cook creole bream posted:

As someone from another country, who can't relate to the struggles of poor American minorities, the idea that a kid is unsupervised, selling candy in a subway during a loving pandemic, is absolutely insane to me. If it's actually a basic mean of survival that makes it even worse.

America is a failed country.
This is a much more reasonable and correct take than "parents bad".

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

cant cook creole bream posted:

As someone from another country, who can't relate to the struggles of poor American minorities, the idea that a kid is unsupervised, selling candy in a subway during a loving pandemic, is absolutely insane to me. If it's actually a basic mean of survival that makes it even worse.

America is a failed country.
poo poo like that is probably happening in your country too you just arent aware of it

agreed with the second part tho

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

cant cook creole bream posted:

As someone from another country, who can't relate to the struggles of poor American minorities, the idea that a kid is unsupervised, selling candy in a subway during a loving pandemic, is absolutely insane to me. If it's actually a basic mean of survival that makes it even worse.

America is a failed country.

Well see, providing shelter and basic needs as well as social programs to help the downtrodden, and that sounds dangerously like socialism. And socialism is bad because some assholes east of Europe liked it and thus it should never be implemented again

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
In which a bunch of goons discover that street kids are a thing

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Herstory Begins Now posted:

In which a bunch of goons discover that street kids are a thing

Wow people having to live day by day dollar by dollar to hustle and to feed oneself is a huge surprise

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Madkal posted:

Now that the death toll has surpassed H1N1 we can expect that talking point to go away, right?

No one except deflecting MAGAChuds even spouted that talking point. The death toll was 12,469 from April 10th, 2009 to April 12th, 2010, i.e twelve months. Coronavirus matched that in less than two months.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

lol. of course they did. why does that stupid shithead keep thinking that miller is gonna end up being decent. loving tapper is such a loving moron.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Young Freud posted:

No one except deflecting MAGAChuds even spouted that talking point. The death toll was 12,469 from April 10th, 2009 to April 12th, 2010, i.e twelve months. Coronavirus matched that in less than two months.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238288908431036423?s=19

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Everything else is bad, parents have no agency, got it. Life is too hard, people can't talk about two bad things at once.
I am a teacher. I have parents calling me in tears because their seventh grader--whose entire life is being judged right now in the New York City Public School System based on their performance when they were 12-- because they are working remotely while sharing a laptop with three kids who have remote learning. Is there anything about their agency you'd like me to forward to them?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249370410422095872

loving lol. happy easter.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

cant cook creole bream posted:

As someone from another country, who can't relate to the struggles of poor American minorities, the idea that a kid is unsupervised, selling candy in a subway during a loving pandemic, is absolutely insane to me. If it's actually a basic mean of survival that makes it even worse.

America is a failed country.

Sort of.

America is a marketing gimmick. America is the pitchman, the huckster. It has always been this way and Donald Trump is the symbol of it. When we look at "Give me your poor, your huddle masses yearning to be free" we think it is meant as a great nation helping those who need it and giving them opportunity but to the people in power it means "I need a cheap exploitable labor force who can't fight me." Americans are a tax farm to fund the military so Clinton and Wall Street can go do war for resources in the middle east.

The few times socio-economic progress was made, Theodore Roosevelt busting conglomerates and FDR doing the New Deal (which in part was because he was left with little option), America became a super power, went to the moon, and created a middle class that created a mega economy. Of which the last 40 years has been spent eroding it to return to a second gilded age.

Even worse, amongst the majority of Americans there is a certain self loathing where they hate their neighbor, do not want to have their lives improved, and cannot look in the mirror to admit it and prefer to be told lies about who they are and what exists because they prefer the cognitive dissonance. It helps them feel okay about themselves and sleep at night OR even worse, they really just don't give a poo poo at all. Depends on your assumption about other people I guess.

I also think this is why so many need to have their ego stroked rather than do the right thing because it is right and just and good for people.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

lol "big roll"

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the average american can't remember things getting better in a real, lasting way, and those who can only have it as a vague childhood memory. in those circumstances its natural people are more worried about things getting worse, or things getting better for everyone but them, than the idea of things getting better for them.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


I haven't found a nice clean chart for H1N1 during that period, but apparently the CDC had an estimated 3,900-6,100 H1N1 attributable deaths in the first 6 months, which would likely, given the exponential increase, be something like 15-18 deaths in two months.

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

From a few pages back but

Lumpy posted:

This is exactly what I said. They hate it because their donors are not making money off of it.

You're incorrect that it's government money though. There is 0 cash in budgets for the USPS. We're fully self-funded.


Whoolighams posted:

CCA or OTL? We've had a stacked list of Sunday workers here in OH that's full of both for the first time I've seen (non-December).

CCA for hopefully not too much longer. Carriers in my office have been dropping off the OTL and hours are still down. Sunday's grown though, even with an Amazon hub in our city.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I just got through my first pay period as a PSE. I'd really like for that job to stick.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
The reason these politicians want to privatize everything is 1. they're the donors who fund them and 2. the Oligarchs become the gateholders to power which is why the Republicans for the last 40 years have been about privatization because they were shut out of a lot of things otherwise.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1248733815163383808

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1249355835224068100

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BZNowCXws

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

LeeMajors posted:

They are going to kill the post office and I don’t even know what the gently caress is going to happen after that.

I guess it’s just step 1 of the collapse of all basic services.

It won't happen. Letting the USPS go under would destroy so many small businesses, and it would devastate a ton of much larger retail companies that rely on those cheaper shipping rates. Paying for FedEx/UPS shipping for all items would turbofuck online retail in general, which is extremely bad in a situation where people will probably be reluctant to take too many trips into stores for years to come.

edit- I don't live in anything even remotely approaching a rural area and USPS last-mile covers at least a third of the online packages that come here

Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Apr 12, 2020

Whoolighams
Jul 24, 2007
Thanks Dom Monaghan

Robviously posted:

CCA for hopefully not too much longer. Carriers in my office have been dropping off the OTL and hours are still down. Sunday's grown though, even with an Amazon hub in our city.

Same about Amazon, we had one open late last year but still get plenty of their crap. Godspeed on conversion!

Star Man posted:

I just got through my first pay period as a PSE. I'd really like for that job to stick.

Isn't it nice to have good pay and representation for a decent job? I didn't know what to make of it.

I have a fair amount of chuds at our station. Old slow fucks that do nothing but complain about the union they don't pay into that gives them a decent setup, hands them grievance settlements, and without they'd be dropped on their rear end. As late as last week one was making a big show of hugging another in the morning and some dipshit tried pulling out the "just the flu" earlier this week. It'd be nice if they had to deal with the fallout of the politics they support but the decent people were spared.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Paradoxish posted:

It won't happen. Letting the USPS go under would destroy so many small businesses, and it would devastate a ton of much larger retail companies that rely on those cheaper shipping rates. Paying for FedEx/UPS shipping for all items would turbofuck online retail in general, which is extremely bad in a situation where people will probably be reluctant to take too many trips into stores for years to come.

edit- I don't live in anything even remotely approaching a rural area and USPS last-mile covers at least a third of the online packages that come here

Yeah, private capital is on our side in this. Too much of the country, too much business, and too much money is riding on the post office and Congress will be collectively leant upon to rescue it.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

haveblue posted:

Yeah, private capital is on our side in this. Too much of the country, too much business, and too much money is riding on the post office and Congress will be collectively leant upon to rescue it.

It's really loving hilarious how much Americans love to complain about socialism while the US economy is practically state-run already. More than a third of US GDP is just direct spending from the federal, state, and local governments, and that's literally just direct spending. Every single person in this country is effectively paid at least in part through tax dollars, it's just a question of how many degrees of separation removed from it you are.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



PeterCat posted:

No, apparently there was a really real church that existed from the time of Jesus till Christianity became the official Roman religion. The real church then was underground till the Reformation.

Or as one king said at the time "Is it more likely that all of Christendom has been wrong for 1000 years or more or that one monk is right in his opinion?"

The hatred of Catholics by Evangelicals is just bizarre to me. You will see them go on mission trips to places like Ireland or South America, places that have a long tradition of Catholicism. All because they're supposedly not saved because they didn't say they loved Jesus in exactly the right words.

It's more because of the worship of Mary and the Saints tbh. Also because they don't like the Latin mass or any of the traditions. There's also the main thing of taxes to Rome that really sparked the Reformation

It's honestly surprisingly more in-depth a disagreement than you would think. The main thing though now is that Papists worship the Pope, aka Satan

A lot of brown people are catholic as well, soooo

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 12, 2020

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

PhazonLink posted:

Peter also means rock. And Satans name is Lucifer which also means rock.

i don't know if i'm missing the sarcasm here, but no it doesn't, except in the way that venus is technically a rocky planet

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I hate that the stimulus checks are being referred to as Trump checks

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Gaunab posted:

I hate that the stimulus checks are being referred to as Trump checks

My friends and I call them our Romney Bux.

FUCK SNEEP
Apr 21, 2007




Gaunab posted:

I hate that the stimulus checks are being referred to as Trump checks

Yeah, they should be called T-Bills! :mad:

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Where did I mention the cops? I was questioning why parents would let their child out DURING A loving PANDEMIC.

Some people need money to eat, not everyone has had everything in life just handed to them

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Call em Kushner Checks.

Wilbur Swain
Sep 13, 2007

These are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.

VitalSigns posted:

Some people need money to eat, not everyone has had everything in life just handed to them

Are there no workhouses?

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




cant cook creole bream posted:

As someone from another country, who can't relate to the struggles of poor American minorities, the idea that a kid is unsupervised, selling candy in a subway during a loving pandemic, is absolutely insane to me. If it's actually a basic mean of survival that makes it even worse.

America is a failed country.

I encountered it overseas quite a lot, Eastern Europe eg., Latvia and Lithuania and also several Asian countries.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Arglebargle III posted:

Real talk, has anyone else been able to find toilet paper? Going on week 5 with no resupply.

Jump in shower, poo poo in hand, throw in toilet.

Done. So simple.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

TulliusCicero posted:

It's more because of the worship of Mary and the Saints tbh. Also because they don't like the Latin mass or any of the traditions. There's also the main thing of taxes to Rome that really sparked the Reformation

It's honestly surprisingly more in-depth a disagreement than you would think. The main thing though now is that Papists worship the Pope, aka Satan

A lot of brown people are catholic as well, soooo

Except Catholics don't worship the saints or Mary. Venerate? Yes. Worship? No.

It's bigotry and willful ignorance wrapped up in theological terms.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

PeterCat posted:

Except Catholics don't worship the saints or Mary. Venerate, yes, worship? No.

It's bigotry and willful ignorance wrapped up in theological terms.

Also Latin masses haven't been a thing in like 40 years.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Corona Cash is the obvious name for them and any time they're not referred to by this is a clear failure on your part.

Killer-of-Lawyers
Apr 22, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

TulliusCicero posted:

It's more because of the worship of Mary and the Saints tbh. Also because they don't like the Latin mass or any of the traditions. There's also the main thing of taxes to Rome that really sparked the Reformation

It's honestly surprisingly more in-depth a disagreement than you would think. The main thing though now is that Papists worship the Pope, aka Satan

A lot of brown people are catholic as well, soooo

Good thing Roman Catholics don't do those two things, nor have they in the past!

In depth my rear end.

PeterCat
Apr 8, 2020

Believe women.

Dietrich posted:

Also Latin masses haven't been a thing in like 40 years.

The American "Christians" also tend to get pissed when you point out to them that only God can decide if someone is going to hell and that they are usurping God's authority if they tell someone else they are going to hell.

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TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



PeterCat posted:

Except Catholics don't worship the saints or Mary. Venerate? Yes. Worship? No.

It's bigotry and willful ignorance wrapped up in theological terms.

I was raised Catholic. I know these things.

The Evangelicals I at one point was exposed to for an extended period of time who told me these things did not.

PeterCat posted:

The American "Christians" also tend to get pissed when you point out to them that only God can decide if someone is going to hell and that they are usurping God's authority if they tell someone else they are going to hell.

This is very true

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