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I am just in it for the architecture porn. And Aaron Paul look shellshocked for 60 minutes.
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The movie genre drug is so god drat funny. I just got to the first "genre change" during the car chase and holy poo poo lmaooooo what a loving complete 100% heel turn since season 2, this quality whiplash is wild. Season 3 rules so far
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Apr 13, 2020 11:01
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Seems like they're setting something up with Aaron Paul -- maybe his implant allows the military to mess with his memory and erase classified operations/war crimes?
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Apr 13, 2020 11:09
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Bernard to Dolores like ten times with slight variations "What is she making you do?" The writing room either forgot about Dupelores in one episode or are treating the Dolorii like drones without her personality just because they merged with the people they replaced. Good music again though. That was the theme from The Shining in the first scene at the beach, right?
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Apr 13, 2020 11:46
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That last song was great. Also travelers crossover when
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bring back old gbs posted:The movie genre drug is so god drat funny. I just got to the first "genre change" during the car chase and holy poo poo lmaooooo what a loving complete 100% heel turn since season 2, this quality whiplash is wild. Season 3 rules so far I don't get it. the genres were loving poo poo. They were, from memory: black & white?, followed by action movie I guess?, then there was romance, that was probably the best one and it was ok but predictable, and then there was something else so poo poo I have completely forgotten. Maybe there was another one? Huge missed opportunity to do wildly different cinematic styles - give us a Noir Delores detective theme, Aaron Paul cranks on about clues and connections - I dunno, be creative. Not just change the colour scheme and have Aaron Paul just stare disbelievingly through the entire thing. A different approach to the writing could have made this episode a stand out like the more creative episodes in last season. So far all the episodes have pretty much melted together. Dydra is the only unique and interesting element in this season so far. (That's a Delores Hydra.)
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Chadzok posted:I don't get it. the genres were loving poo poo. i have nothing to do with the production of westworld
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The black and white one was supposed to be noire There was an action movie one I think but action movies don't have a cohesive style so it made no loving sense And then there was apocalypse now genre, but that's not a loving genre - you're just stealing the helicopter music and doing it when h a car chase. At a certain point the themes became so watered down I thought the drug wore off, it was when the motorcycle bomb showed up KoRMaK fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 13:07
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Well this season started off promising but this last episode really fell off the rails for me.  at every repeated scene of Dolores and Caleb walking around in slow motion while dramatic music plays in the background.This season feels like more of a sequel to Person of Interest than anything having to do with Westworld. The cinematography is cool but the writing seems pretty sloppy.
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Apr 13, 2020 13:21
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When Dolores was talking to the bike I really started hoping for Bikelores.
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Apr 13, 2020 13:31
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:A very generous interpretation that the show will probably use. Probably should have picked a better graphic to represent that. Maybe one that had the bars fluctuate wildly or simply continue on their current trajectory rather than the one they used which had all the bars go down to 0 for a while on the X axis before hitting NO DATA. It just reinforces Serac's belief that the outliers are a massive threat to humanity's survival. Donnerberg posted:Bernard to Dolores like ten times with slight variations "What is she making you do?" The writing room either forgot about Dupelores in one episode or are treating the Dolorii like drones without her personality just because they merged with the people they replaced. Cojawfee posted:I really liked this episode. Maybe they could have done more with genre, but it would be too annoying if they went too crazy with it and if it lasted too long. Maybe do a bit more to code what each genre is. I got noir and romance, but the other ones didn't really stick out enough for me to remember. I also liked the space oddity cover. I like when this show starts playing a song, and I know what it is, but it's not quite there. I can hum along and then finally it clicks and I remember the words. Sucks for the people not enjoying this, because I'm having a blast. I wish they could have just done this for season 2 instead of wasting our time. Aaron Paul is a great add for this season. I'm disappointed that it's apparently only 8 episodes long. e: In any case, I feel like they should've stuck to Caleb's point of view more if they were gonna do the genre thing, and have the drug be more sci-fi. Like, it's trying to do instagram filters on everything to match the genre, making the car chase like an old school one with Tommy guns and poo poo, then puts Dolores in a pink dress with completely different lighting as she lights up those goons, then finishes with ash falling from the skies as the people around him are made to look like terminators. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 13:35
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Donnerberg posted:Bernard to Dolores like ten times with slight variations "What is she making you do?" The writing room either forgot about Dupelores in one episode or are treating the Dolorii like drones without her personality just because they merged with the people they replaced. I was hoping someone besides me noticed that. Yeah, it was straight up The Shining with no changes, and given that Space Oddity is a 2001 reference in itself, it kind of doubled the Kubrick.
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Apr 13, 2020 13:36
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lol at serac being so insane and ruthless that even his brutal tech ceo financer gets cold feet
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professor metis posted:When Dolores was talking to the bike I really started hoping for Bikelores. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-4mBbTUDq0&t=16s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lWgXDOAJ5s
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Apr 13, 2020 14:03
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The voiceovers in the car explaining 'he must be changing genre' was jarring, especially since earlier Liam said he didn't know about the drug. Like the creators didn't trust their audience to get what effect they were going for.
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Apr 13, 2020 14:32
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I felt like the drug trip poo poo just made the scenes drraaaaagg, it didn't work for me at all.
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Apr 13, 2020 15:15
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Same, didn't work for me. Also, I can't really reconcile liberal recreational drug use, which by nature creates more chaos, with a predictive system. Jesse's drug trip kind of made me aware of it.
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Apr 13, 2020 15:30
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professor metis posted:When Dolores was talking to the bike I really started hoping for Bikelores. There is a random throwaway scene of a riderless bike running in the background engulfed in frame. That was Bikolores.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Same, didn't work for me. Unless the drugs make you more predictable.
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Also, it bothers me a great deal that misspelling Enguerrand is actually a show thing, not just iMDB. If these idiots want to go with a French dude, with a fancy name, at least get the spelling right.hobbesmaster posted:Unless the drugs make you more predictable. 
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Combat Pretzel posted:Also, I can't really reconcile liberal recreational drug use, which by nature creates more chaos, with a predictive system. Jesse's drug trip kind of made me aware of it. hobbesmaster posted:Unless the drugs make you more predictable. Combat Pretzel posted:Also, it bothers me a great deal that misspelling Enguerrand is actually a show thing, not just iMDB. If these idiots want to go with a French dude, with a fancy name, at least get the spelling right.
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Apr 13, 2020 15:56
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I watch the vignettes they post in the app after each episode [except last week's for some reason] and it seems like the people making this actually feel like they're doing major groundbreaking stuff, like someone refers to the car chase as "epic" which is a bit of a reach. They also gushed about how amazing the the drug trip was which wasn't executed that well either. How did Stubbs get into the data center for the machine that runs the goddamn world? I'm guessing the hosts being "blank" to the system are part of it but data centers for far more trivial stuff today have way more physical security than that [also figurehead executives don't get root and "send everyone everything" would set off a bunch of red flags and get automatically blocked]. Anyway, unless it can re-model the world instantly to account for everyone knowing what their profile says, isn't the machine basically useless now? Unless my earlier hunch pans out that the system figures out the same thing Delos did that humans are vastly more predictable than they think. I was really hoping for something more out of Serac than "outliers to the perfect thing I made must be eliminated or else everyone dies," maybe at some point he'll realize he's vulnerable to manipulation? The system can show him anything and say "the world ends if you don't do this" and he'll always do it.
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Apr 13, 2020 15:56
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The car chase had the same problem modern Hollywood movies have. The cars were all in second gear, going nowhere fast. They masked it with good perspectives instead of doing a million cuts though, so at least that part was well done.
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Apr 13, 2020 16:39
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Donnerberg posted:The car chase had the same problem modern Hollywood movies have. The cars were all in second gear, going nowhere fast. They masked it with good perspectives instead of doing a million cuts though, so at least that part was well done. I think having it set to Ride of the Valkyries only made it seem even more plodding for a car chase
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Apr 13, 2020 17:04
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Also, Engerraund Serac is an anagram of Rearrange Dunces 
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Apr 13, 2020 17:11
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Captain Splendid posted:I think having it set to Ride of the Valkyries only made it seem even more plodding for a car chase The concept was fun, but the execution was poor, which could really be said for the episode as a whole.
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Apr 13, 2020 17:12
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The ride share thing is driven by a stunt driver with limited visibility, so they probably can't go very fast. And the party drugs are meant to be used by wastoids and rich people with nothing else to do.
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Apr 13, 2020 17:37
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One note even though most of my posting is complaints I enjoy the show but in the "shiny objects and subwoofer workout" way and not in a Big Ideas scifi way, which is mostly down to the writing. Except for some clumsy fight scenes it's very well put together and I enjoy it, the insane production values just emphasize the weakness of the script.
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Apr 13, 2020 18:25
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Agreeing with all the drug trip criticism. It was mostly Aaron Paul looking dazed set to different music and lighting. Either go over the top or don't bother.
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Apr 13, 2020 18:40
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What they were doing with it was already getting kinda old by the time they dropped it. I wonder if they had kept going with filters and such but cut it late in post because what made it to broadcast was already overstaying its welcome. As it stands it was just a setup for the "romance" shot of ERW
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Apr 13, 2020 18:51
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stephenthinkpad posted:There is a random throwaway scene of a riderless bike running in the background engulfed in frame. That was Bikolores. I really hope that was Bikeluros, she’s my favorite character this season
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Apr 13, 2020 19:23
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Serac, the richest man in the world: I want all of our resources on this. Find her and stop her. (A few SUVs full of dudes with normal guns fail to stop her) Well, I’m out of ideas.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:24
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Was it my imagination, or was Serac having a meeting at the Ugly Betty offices with his financier? The round office with all the round holes at the rehab centre.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:32
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I bet the Genre thing looks REALLY COOL on paper, then when it came time to actually execute it they were like "uhhhh, license that music from The Shining I guess"
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Serac, the richest man in the world: I want all of our resources on this. Find her and stop her. People on the run from heavily armed mercenaries: "Oh good, we escaped the omniscient global surveillance system, let's go to the beach for our dramatic confrontation"
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Apr 13, 2020 19:52
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Serac, the richest man in the world: I want all of our resources on this. Find her and stop her. Those aren't even his private army which dress in really nice suits, but "InstaCrime" gig economy criminals. Poor criminals with no health insurance.
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Apr 13, 2020 20:24
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Has Aaron Paul ever asked Dolores "Hey how come you get shot all the time and it doesn't seem to bother you all that much?" Also LOL at the literal killing machine robot who controls stuff with her mind (?) sending the guy tripping balls out the sunroof to take out the dudes, and the second he's up there whipping the car a hard 90 degrees. Good thing he held on to that gun!
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Apr 13, 2020 21:01
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Yea, she could have shot the gun through the sunroof herself and accomplish the same thing.
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Another thing, how come nobody in the real world seems to give much thought to the idea that life-like robots could be running around all over the place? Or do they? I mean if some company built thousands of flawless humanoid robots, would anybody believe them when they said "oh but they're all in the parks and are never getting out, we promise" ??
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vseslav.botkin posted:Seems like they're setting something up with Aaron Paul -- maybe his implant allows the military to mess with his memory and erase classified operations/war crimes? I will be very surprised if it's not something they've already done in Black Mirror
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