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Acebuckeye13 posted:If Sanders didn't think he could influence policy and push the country in a positive direction by working within the systems as they exist, he wouldn't even be a Senator. He clearly thinks that endorsing Biden early is the best way to push the establishment leftwards, and personally I don't think he's wrong. He's wiser than me, granted. I still think he's too nice though, those things aren't mutually exclusive. He should have attacked Biden harder early on. https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/1249789453893120000?s=19
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VitalSigns posted:oh well that's confusing, why does the Times say the balance of the court is at stake then
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Medullah posted:I can't believe he's going back to H1N1. "17,000 people died, it was handled terribly" He didn't mention the death count, but he's not yet ready to get rid of that talking point.
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BiggerBoat posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3920041 Unless they throw his lovely, rotting corpse in church during service then he's a loving liar. Hell's not real but if his religion was real he'd be going to hell since he's not following through on his promise. Not in jail. Not in the hospital.
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Wilbur Swain posted:He didn't mention the death count, but he's not yet ready to get rid of that talking point. He absolutely did mention the death rate. That's what made it so unbelievable to me.
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VH4Ever posted:He's wiser than me, granted. I still think he's too nice though, those things aren't mutually exclusive. He should have attacked Biden harder early on. Maybe, it's hard to say. Attacking your opponents in a primary is always a gamble, though—the nastier you are, the less inclined they are to listen to you if they win. Democratic primary voters in particular don't typically like seeing the candidates go hard after each other, so Sanders attacking Biden could have very well backfired (Especially in the likely event Biden won anyway).
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Except when said dumbass president says he takes no responsibility and the response for everything is supposed to be the state governors. Man, gently caress this guy
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Trump also mentioned that he's going to have a committee of religious leaders because "you've seen what's been going on with the churches". I'm sure it will be a multi-faith initiative, and he'll totally respect the separation of church and state.
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Medullah posted:He absolutely did mention the death rate. That's what made it so unbelievable to me. omg you're right. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1249842971098390536
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thats an insult to sharks. Also how our coasts doing? air pollution is down and there's been a few bird posts about packs of rats and monkeys forming starving swarms now that humans no longer rule the streets, are seagulls trying to do the same? what about the shallows?
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This may have been posted a billion times already, but deserves to be posted again: https://twitter.com/DanielBice/status/1249837663970111488 HOLY poo poo TWENTY loving POINTS get hosed you worthless shitbags  this means we now control the SC right?
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Maybe, it's hard to say. Attacking your opponents in a primary is always a gamble, though—the nastier you are, the less inclined they are to listen to you if they win. Democratic primary voters in particular don't typically like seeing the candidates go hard after each other, so Sanders attacking Biden could have very well backfired (Especially in the likely event Biden won anyway). We'll never know, I guess.
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mcmagic posted:I think Biden is going to win. If the Wisconsin GOP can't win an election rigged so obviously in their favor as this one, I don't think they can win in November. Yeah, if we pull this out, then all Dems have to do is keep their foot on the gas and keep the base motivated and pissed off. So that means they'll completely ignore Wisconsin and Trump will win the state by 10 points. Because Democats.
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Mr Interweb posted:This may have been posted a billion times already, but deserves to be posted again: It's actually juicier than that https://twitter.com/DanielBice/status/1249844211303755778
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Mr Interweb posted:This may have been posted a billion times already, but deserves to be posted again: Those two are circuit court judges. Still good to see any Walker appointee gone
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I don't know how you can look at these results tonight and not think that Biden is the favorite to win in November.
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Apr 14, 2020 00:49
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mcmagic posted:I don't know how you can look at these results tonight and not think that Biden is the favorite to win in November. Post your map
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VH4Ever posted:We'll never know, I guess. Not until whoever's running this simulation gives up and goes back to an earlier save, anyway 
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Catalyst-proof posted:Post your map There is no map for Trump without Wisconsin.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:It's actually juicier than that  these numbers are staggering. i guess this obliterates my fear that only chuds would go out and vote cause they ain't worried about the rona. Guze posted:Those two are circuit court judges. Still good to see any Walker appointee gone oh. do we have the results of the SC elections?
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Mr Interweb posted:
Looks like the democrat won. She won. It was called. https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1249846755660832774 Huge own goal for the Republican WI SC and the SCOTUS.
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Mr Interweb posted:oh. do we have the results of the SC elections? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...gion=Navigation
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Wilbur Swain posted:omg you're right. I just wish one reported would grow the stones to stand up and ask "President Trump, are you stupid, or are you really stupid?" Mr Interweb posted:This may have been posted a billion times already, but deserves to be posted again: Even if Dems didn't that's a loving huge rear end blow
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mcmagic posted:There is no map for Trump without Wisconsin. Which is why Biden is a goddamn fool if he doesn't offer his VP slot to Tammy Baldwin.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Which is why Biden is a goddamn fool if he doesn't offer his VP slot to Tammy Baldwin. Very much behind this but I don't think it will happen.
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mcmagic posted:Looks like the democrat won. 
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Maybe, it's hard to say. Attacking your opponents in a primary is always a gamble, though—the nastier you are, the less inclined they are to listen to you if they win. Democratic primary voters in particular don't typically like seeing the candidates go hard after each other, so Sanders attacking Biden could have very well backfired (Especially in the likely event Biden won anyway). Yeah Trump had an advantage because he didn't care whether anyone listened to him if he lost (he knew they wouldn't), he could totally go scorched earth in the primary because he didn't have any goals beyond self-aggrandizement Bloomberg suffered from the inverse of that come to think of it. He was so blatantly buying his way in, that none of the other candidates expected they would have any leverage over him if that worked, so they had no incentive not to score points by bagging on what a horrific piece of poo poo he is. E: On the other hand, Obama went ham on Hillary, maybe he was just astute enough to know 2008 was his moment and he had nothing to lose It's not like the Clintons would have given him the time of day if he lost no matter how nice he was. Even running against Hillary gets you on the enemies list VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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mcmagic posted:I don't know how you can look at these results tonight and not think that Biden is the favorite to win in November. gently caress now I know he's going to lose.  McMagic!
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LOL @ the WI GOP who killed their voters to lose a seat for 10 years.
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mcmagic posted:I don't know how you can look at these results tonight and not think that Biden is the favorite to win in November. Can you explain a bit more? So Wisconsin went to Trump in 2016. But Wisconsin itself doesn't have many electoral votes, just 10 and Hillary lost by 77 electoral votes. The important thing is that the high turnout and big win for Dems - despite an attempt at voter suppression - is indicating a general trend for purple states in 2020 that they'll go Dem. Is that your main point? E: it seems obvious, but if we have different assumptions of the "obvious" it can lead to miscommunication. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:Can you explain a bit more? Wi is the tipping point state in the majority of 2020 models. It's trending rightward of Pa and Mi so it's overwhelmingly likely that if the D wins it that they would have won Pa and Mi and that closes off any paths for Trump.
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Mr Interweb posted:This may have been posted a billion times already, but deserves to be posted again: Ahahahahaha!!!! 
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Which is why Biden is a goddamn fool if he doesn't offer his VP slot to Tammy Baldwin. What is the dream shortlist for VP candidates, and what is the likely shortlist?
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah Trump had an advantage because he didn't care whether anyone listened to him if he lost (he knew they wouldn't), he could totally go scorched earth because he didn't have any goals beyond self-aggrandizement the other big piece is that the timing made it incredibly hard to make the changeover god knows there was no shortage of material to attack Biden over, but the fact that clowncar numbers prevented Biden from having to say anything, at any length, until after Super Tuesday did an excellent job of covering for his weaknesses, and the moderators deciding that Biden could lie to their faces and they'd smile and nod during the one debate Sanders could have gone harder does not fill me with confidence re: the utility of attacking. "you thought black children should be chemically lobotomized" is a 100% accurate statement of fact, and one that could have been stated, but there's only so much you can do in an environment where 'well, it's true, but he shouldn't say it' is enough to get you three pinocchios from WaPo
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Bucky Fullminster posted:What is the dream shortlist for VP candidates, and what is the likely shortlist? Tammy Baldwin should be #1 on the dream list. Wisconsin will be what Florida was in 2000 in terms of determining the election. Baldwin is a popular senator and could deliver this state to Biden.
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Catalyst-proof posted:Post your map Hell, here's my guess.  Pennsylvania and Michigan flipping back to D is probably a given. Wisconsin is fairly likely as well, given these election results. Arizona has been trending surprisingly blue, and I think Florida actually has a good chance of flipping as well (It was closer than people remember in 2016, and the felony renfrenchisement will be huge). North Carolina is the least likely flip, but I've got a feeling about it. Ohio is probably lost, though. Senate flips: Arizona, Colorado, Maine, North Carolina, and a Jones loss in Alabama. Little low-key worried about Michigan as well, as Gary Peters is a very boring man, but we'll see what happens.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Tammy Baldwin should be #1 on the dream list. Wisconsin will be what Florida was in 2000 in terms of determining the election. Baldwin is a popular senator and could deliver this state to Biden. I think she's probably considered too left for Obama and the establishment who will be making the pick.
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mcmagic posted:Looks like the democrat won. so we now control the SC?
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mcmagic posted:I think she's probably considered too left for Obama and the establishment who will be making the pick. Wasn't this a similar concern about an ideology gap when JFK picked LBJ to deliver Texas? Forgive me if my history is wrong.
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