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Admiral Ray posted:Coalition of Unified Maritime Land 
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Finally, our plan for New Aztlan is put into motion. Dream team: Prime Minister Sanders House Leader Newsom Secretary of Socialism Czar Ocasio-Cortez Labor Relations Comrade Huerta
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Apr 13, 2020 22:47
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Admiral Ray posted:Coalition of Unified Maritime Land My country 'tis of thee. WOWEE ZOWEE posted:So how are people doing here? Still employed? Got sick? Got their landlords to suspend rent? My nursery is mostly mail-order, so we've been able to slowly get back to shipping orders. Luckily there are only a couple of us, and the greenhouse is very big, so we're not mixing around too much. It remains to be seen how long online demand will keep up, but for now we're holding it down, although the 2 weeks when we basically stopped doing anything have put us deep in the hole on fulfilling orders.
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Apr 13, 2020 22:48
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Spazzle posted:I-5 alliance The newly founded country tears itself apart in a bloody civil war within a year over a disagreement over whether official documents should refer to the newly founded state as "I-5 Alliance" or "The I-5 Alliance"
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Apr 13, 2020 22:48
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"My Dearest Constance, Fighting at the Pacheco Front is heck-of bloody."
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Apr 13, 2020 22:54
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:So how are people doing here? Still employed? Got sick? Got their landlords to suspend rent? Veterinarians are part of essential services, but certain procedures were deemed non-essential and due to curbside service (clients waits in car, tech takes pet into clinic) the number of cases able to be handled generally decreases. Veterinary clinic for the pets of the homeless had to be put on hold, the crowd is generally large and the neighboring businesses are assholes if we have any overflow near their stuff. So, distancing between clients not really possible. We're trying to work out telemedicine stuff for the clients we can, refer those we can, and keep everyone's medications refilled. Of course, spay and neuter is considered non-essential for the most part, so in a few months we're going to have an absolute gently caress load of feral kittens since the TNR programs haven't been taking care of that. That'll be fun.
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Apr 13, 2020 23:06
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:So how are people doing here? Still employed? Got sick? Got their landlords to suspend rent? Working from home, have been perfectly healthy so far thankfully, landlord has me under his thumb since we're month-to-month on an absurdly below market rent for the area, so I'm just sucking it up and paying in silence since the alternative is he refuses to renew my lease and any other place I find at a minimum doubles my rent, probably more than that in all honesty.
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Apr 13, 2020 23:14
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:So how are people doing here? Still employed? Got sick? Got their landlords to suspend rent? Both me and my partner are WFH and both are employers are hiring. Healthy but slowly going stir-crazy. Didn't ask my landlord to suspend the rent, currently trying to figure out how I can get them to let us have a pet or at least get a better dishwasher.
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Apr 13, 2020 23:26
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Spazzle posted:I-5 alliance *ahem* The I-5 Alliance edit: Sydin posted:The newly founded country tears itself apart in a bloody civil war within a year over a disagreement over whether official documents should refer to the newly founded state as "I-5 Alliance" or "The I-5 Alliance" oh god dammit
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Apr 13, 2020 23:26
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WOWEE ZOWEE posted:So how are people doing here? Still employed? Got sick? Got their landlords to suspend rent? We're an "essential service" but they sent 99% of the people to WFH. I can't do my job from home so I still have to drive into work like an rear end in a top hat. I'm as busy as I ever was plus 25% of my job now consists of doing special requests from people WFH that they can't do remotely so I'm even busier than usual. Luckily I'm paid hourly and milking the poo poo out of this for as long as I can.
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Apr 13, 2020 23:29
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My wife took a 10% paycut but in exchange no one gets laid off. They did happen to fire a few people last week for poor performance though lol
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Apr 13, 2020 23:55
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Sydin posted:The newly founded country tears itself apart in a bloody civil war within a year over a disagreement over whether official documents should refer to the newly founded state as "I-5 Alliance" or "The I-5 Alliance" Excuse me, it's just "5 Alliance". Alternatively: CPColin posted:"My Dearest Constance, California Politics Thread: War is Hella
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Apr 14, 2020 00:01
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VikingofRock posted:California Politics Thread: War is Hella
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Apr 14, 2020 00:08
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TheAgent posted:just make a single giant rear end country with canada, washington, oregon, california and mexico like a giant fuckin pacman bout to eat the rest of the US This is a central part of my plan to secede along with the new England states. We all leave together and join Canada. This has the benefit of allowing the most like-minded states to leave while maintaining a single contiguous nation, and with the bonus of Canada already having a fully formed central government, body of laws, and national structure, so no need to hammer all that out ad hoc.
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Apr 14, 2020 00:13
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We'll entice Nevada to join by agreeing to legalized sex work and gambling in our new social utopian conglomerate, but then we'll lose them when they get word of what the environmentalism committees are writing into the constitution regarding mining regulations. Then we'll really blow everyone's minds by joining the EU. e. We can't join Canada unless they abandon, or we adopt, the Queen of England as head of state.
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Apr 14, 2020 00:15
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Leperflesh posted:Then we'll really blow everyone's minds by joining the EU. Odd choice considering we're half a planet away from any other member
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Apr 14, 2020 00:25
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Odd choice considering we're half a planet away from any other member Eh. Flights are cheap these days.
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Apr 14, 2020 00:36
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laughing at the very idea of a country voluntarily joining the eu now
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Apr 14, 2020 00:38
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Leperflesh posted:We'll entice Nevada to join by agreeing to legalized sex work and gambling in our new social utopian conglomerate, but then we'll lose them when they get word of what the environmentalism committees are writing into the constitution regarding mining regulations. Fun fact: Nevada gets no tax money from mining. The mining companies got that put into the state constitution a long time ago, and it’s become a more pressing issue as state leaders try to figure out what the gently caress to do to diversify the economy beyond tourism. Mining is basically an (increasingly shrinking) source of jobs and no tax revenue at all, and if Vegas didn’t need Reno to outweigh the combined rancher counties we’d be good without it. Besides which, Reno is quickly turning into a baby tech hub now that Musk’s battery plant is online. The only mining that matters is lithium.
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Apr 14, 2020 00:42
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jeeves posted:Paolo Bacigalupi did a pretty good prediction of what the water rights for the western states would look like with a complete lack of federal guidance: California will take command of the Colorado river by force and gently caress Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, or anyone else who wants dat precious agua. Any sort of "California seceeds!" fantasy has to think about water rights cuz Socal trying to go it alone is laff. The Water Knife rattled me incredibly badly, then I read the Cadillac Desert book mentioned in it and completely lost my poo poo. There ain't no future for CA at our current level of water usage.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:05
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I'd be down to join Canada. There's a shitload of entertainment that films there anyway.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:10
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The Water Knife rattled me incredibly badly, then I read the Cadillac Desert book mentioned in it and completely lost my poo poo. There ain't no future for CA at our current level of water usage. if we just get rid of the almond and rice farms that'll reduce water usage by like 90% lol
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Apr 14, 2020 01:36
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Rah! posted:if we just get rid of the almond and rice farms that'll reduce water usage by like 90% lol No listen you idiot it's the GREEN LAWNS of Marin that are destroying our country.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:40
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:No listen you idiot it's the GREEN LAWNS of Marin that are destroying our country. No man it’s those 7 min showers! If we took 5 min showers everything would be so much better.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:41
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goddamn looney lib millenials and their avocado lawns
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Apr 14, 2020 01:41
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Rah! posted:if we just get rid of the almond and rice farms that'll reduce water usage by like 90% lol Don't forget alfalfa. It is even more water intensive than almonds or rice and we produce something like 2x the rest of the country combined.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:43
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Sydin posted:Don't forget alfalfa. It is even more water intensive than almonds or rice and we produce something like 2x the rest of the country combined. True but at least it’s feed for animals. I didnt know about the rice but almonds are loving lol worthless.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:45
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There's probably a poo poo load of fresh water in the continental shelf of California. They are currently abandoning an oil platform in Ventura county, now under state control, with the infrastructure in place to start producing/storing fresh water in the old oil Wells. The base of fresh water pick is something like 2000' down. It's a back arc basin with on shore recharge. I would think you could inject during wet years and produce during dry years. Over time you'll even desalinate that reservoir. You could do this with each offshore platform that potentially comes under state control.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:46
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:The Water Knife rattled me incredibly badly, then I read the Cadillac Desert book mentioned in it and completely lost my poo poo. There ain't no future for CA at our current level of water usage. Desalination has its own environmental problems, but the affluent people that live in coastal cities will be fine. It’ll be significantly more expensive, but considering how many people are willing to pay thousands of times more money for the convenience of having their water bottled in plastic, I don’t even think it’ll be a big deal for the upper or middle classes. Of course, the poor will be hosed, but that’s unfortunately on par for the course.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:46
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Goodpancakes posted:There's probably a poo poo load of fresh water in the continental shelf of California. They are currently abandoning an oil platform in Ventura county, now under state control, with the infrastructure in place to start producing/storing fresh water in the old oil Wells. The base of fresh water pick is something like 2000' down. It's a back arc basin with on shore recharge. I would think you could inject during wet years and produce during dry years. Over time you'll even desalinate that reservoir. You could do this with each offshore platform that potentially comes under state control. cool we can suck up that water for more almond farms and deplete that aquifer just like the central valley one, and make the entire coastline sink instead of just some boring rear end farmland
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Apr 14, 2020 01:56
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Really Cali should just tax companies for a 10 construction of desalination plans to net fill aquafers etc then give them water at low rates after they've weened off depletable water sources. What to do with the salt? Make more salt and vinegar chips.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:00
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The state would have control over continental shelf water. No need to pump to the point of subsidence without reinjection. Properly managed you have a tremendous water battery to balance dry vs wet years.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:02
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You just concentrate the brine and pump it into all of the depleted oil reservoirs around the state. They produced for years without reinjection and have huge negative balances. You could probably just pump that poo poo into Montebello for decades alone
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Apr 14, 2020 02:03
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e. ^ Yeah there are creative ways of putting the brine somewhere that's not the ocean but if it takes even marginally more effort than just dumping that poo poo back into the sea it'll be hard to make happen. Desalination is incredibly energy intensive, doesn't really produce that much fresh water even at appreciable scale, and results in dumping a shitload of piping hot brine back into the sea that fucks up marine life within the vicinity of the plant. It's not really a viable long term solution. What we should be doing is large scale waste water reclamation, but getting political will for it is hard because even if you only plan to use it for irrigation there will still be a clowncar of reactionary dipshits telling everybody they can about how the politicians want you to drink your neighbor's poop water.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:05
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Sydin posted:e. ^ Yeah there are creative ways of putting the brine somewhere that's not the ocean but if it takes even marginally more effort than just dumping that poo poo back into the sea it'll be hard to make happen. Aren't they already using grey water for irrigation down around LA? Not in that area but I remember on another project when we were going to sell them these super trees as wind barriers that's what they were talking about using to irrigate.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:13
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Spazzle posted:I-5 alliance Gonna unironically call it this
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Apr 14, 2020 02:15
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While rice uses a huge amount of water, it's not nearly as environmentally impactful as the water-intensive nut orchards. You seasonally flood rice fields in standing water, which creates wetlands that you can let migratory and wetland birds nest in, and you can also use carp or other freshwater fish in the water to control mosquitoes (and incidentally I think fertilize the soil a bit?), and then you can let the water run off into the river and it's not loaded with fertilizers etc. Rice is also an important staple food that people need, whereas our almond and pistachio crops - the ones that use the most water - are cash crops grown for export and which do not contribute meaningfully to the total food supply in the US or in California. Alfalfa is grown for cattle fodder, is the most water intensive crop per output, and is totally unnecessary if we just eat a bit less beef. We also don't really grow all that much of it, so whatever.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:25
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The Western Union aka the WU, which ain’t nothing to gently caress with
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DukeDuke posted:The Western Union https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31UM294QhwQ  DukeDuke posted:aka the WU, which ain’t nothing to gently caress with 
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