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Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now?
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Apr 14, 2020 02:43
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McNally posted:Doesn't count, wasn't president yet. those goalposts...
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Apr 14, 2020 02:43
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? Hooked up to ventilators and texting TRUMP to 88022 with one hand and feverishly tapping the button to administer themselves more morphine with the other hand.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:47
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? I've been thinking a lot about this today.
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Apr 14, 2020 02:48
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? Saying that when the government got involved in slavery And fought in the civil war they got involved in state commerce so they should be able to now. What, you gonna disagree with the outcome of the civil war now? I’m not making this up.
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? 
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? SquirrelyPSU posted:I've been thinking a lot about this today. It's kind of hilarious how hosed Trump knows he is, plus how his brilliant plan is to just gently caress himself over even more. His main argument was his tremendous, beautiful economy that got completely wrecked and it's not like people are going to start buying stuff again just because he says so, even the chuddier types. Those that pretend it's not a problem will spread the plague and lead to another shutdown and/or overrun hospitals if he's dumb enough to "override" a shutdown order. All of this will be moot in a week or two anyways. He will be changing his tune once Florida goes to poo poo.
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Apr 14, 2020 03:42
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1249781106410491915
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Apr 14, 2020 03:47
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Hooked up to ventilators and texting TRUMP to 1488 with one hand and feverishly tapping the button to administer themselves more morphine with the other hand. fixed
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Apr 14, 2020 03:57
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ded posted:fixed heh
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My Spirit Otter posted:those goalposts... I thought the original post included the word president. I went back and looked and it didn't. My bad.
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Apr 14, 2020 04:07
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My Spirit Otter posted:I seriously dont understand how there haven't been public assassination attempts Twitter rhetoric from wannabee revolutionaries aside, I think a lot of American left/liberal people still believe there is a political solution available. The left-DSA faction has their people like AOC and Ilhan Omar getting elected and Bernie coming extremely close to the nomination twice now, and the liberal capitalist/centrists think they'll get a return to their stability and slow progress, since Trump lost the popular vote back in 2016 and the democrats have managed to do well in elections since then. Elmnt80 posted:??? The only credible nuclear terror threat to the US has been a neo-Nazi in Maine building a dirty bomb to set off at the inauguration. Only got found out after his wife had enough of him beating her and shot him.
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Apr 14, 2020 04:22
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drat, that would have been a hella effective bomb too
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Apr 14, 2020 04:32
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facialimpediment posted:I'm not going to link it, but what's going on is that he had a whole weekend off TV. He doesn't have rallies, so he's turning this presser into an even more nutso rally than normal. Stuff like “When somebody is president of the United States, your authority is total.” I looked up the "briefing" on YouTube, got about as far as the part where Trump says "we've got the greatest economy, we've got the biggest employment numbers ever, some of the biggest unemployment numbers as well, as you know. The greatest of everything.", and just immediately closed the tab. Watched some of the "best of" clips from his meltdown as well, and I'm done. I can't do it anymore.
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Apr 14, 2020 04:51
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Casimir Radon posted:Donnie is claiming he can overrule governors to restart state economies. Where oh where are the states rights people now? Do you enjoy having rights that 1) apply to someone who isn't a white, property holding Protestant male, or 2) didn't exist until after 1789? Most of the time, you can thank state's rights (enumerated federal power and the ninth amendment) for that.
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Apr 14, 2020 05:08
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The Western States Pact sounds like the programmatically generated name of an NPC nation in a wargame. Prove me wrong.
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Apr 14, 2020 08:56
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Real people named it Cascadia.
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Apr 14, 2020 09:47
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Before I go nap, I just want to point out that Karofsky won the WI race by 10%, 855k to 692k.
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Apr 14, 2020 10:14
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I looked up the "briefing" on YouTube, got about as far as the part where Trump says "we've got the greatest economy, we've got the biggest employment numbers ever, some of the biggest unemployment numbers as well, as you know. The greatest of everything.", and just immediately closed the tab. This poo poo is dangerous. My dad, who has always supported Trump in an embarrassed way and who would have never gone to one of his rallies or watched one on TV in a million years, is watching his "briefings" every night. I'm seeing the brain worms take hold in real time. His Boomer Brain still doesn't understand that that it's possible that the President could be lying on TV (though Obama was somehow able to do it...?).
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Apr 14, 2020 12:15
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Trump will face zero consequences for saying continually more vile and incredible poo poo. He never has and never will pay a price for it and people need to process that / should have done so by now. Republican polling support is still stupidly high and as far as anything matters at all, that's about the only thing that might. Roughly 25% of the country isn't going to listen to him say something progressively more insane and all of a sudden stop and get off the ride. That ship sailed roughly 5 minutes after he called out McCain for being a loser. Any critical thought that would have allowed a person to stop supporting a serial draft dodger who insulted a wounded POW would have already happened. Everyone saw it in full context, unambiguously in live TV. People made their choices. I don't expect any believers to change their minds at this point whenever he just comes out and says the 14 words and advocates helping out "good americans" by putting them on ventilators instead of "undesirables". also have a lol https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1249890228707438592
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Apr 14, 2020 12:24
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I know this is just because it is prudent / expedient, but it's hard not to squint a little at it and wonder about future balkanization. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/states-band-together-reopening-plans/index.html quote:(CNN)States on the country's East and West coasts are forming their own regional pacts to work together on how to reopen from the stay-at-home orders each has issued to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:34
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That Works posted:I know this is just because it is prudent / expedient, but it's hard not to squint a little at it and wonder about future balkanization. Let me know when the Confederate State Alliance gets formed.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:43
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There are a couple glimmers of hope floating around out there, though they're admittedly slim. Slim because candidate_inertia that'll go into another thread. But cutting through the pessimism I was feeling before last night, let me be, I guess, naive for a moment. First is what just happened in WI. 10% is a wide margin. People here are loving pissed, and I doubt they'll forget who did this to them once the consequences of last week's election start hitting home. Keep in mind, WI was relatively "safe" compared to other states before that happened. We had a stay at home order happen pretty much when it needed to. Thanks to GOP, SCOTUS, that safety got obliterated. Not only that, people will have literally died in an effort to go vote. It's entirely possible that he will not pick up the state again, and that people will be prepared to vote absentee this November in higher numbers. Losing WI isn't a hit he can afford. Second is that his fanbase isn't the majority. They're going to vote for him regardless. Everyone always knew that there were never going to be converts from his tribe, and we shouldn't expect any. Third is that polls have been notoriously squirrelly since 2016. Pollsters were caught with their pants around their ankles when Trump took the presidency. I would not be surprised if they're skewing in his favor in a backlash to the way they skewed against him during the last election, and I wouldn't expect these results to stay the way they are. That said, if I were forced to be campaigner or do phone banking, I'd be pushing SCOTUS first and foremost, downballot races, and what happened to WI as an example of what people stand to lose if they sleep on this. WI pulled itself out of the fire, but we're still in rough shape after 10 years of abuse, and it'll take years of effort to get back to where we were. Biden is a lovely band-aid, yeah, but downballot, Midterms, can hold him accountable, and he can and will be primaried in 2024, if he doesn't voluntarily step down. He has signaled that he intends to be a one term president, and I'm a-okay with that. I am NOT okay with him having been the nominee at all, and I intend on pushing for candidates that will make that more apparent. The swiftly dying branch of the Dems that pushed for this to happen over all the other candidates that were out there - yes, even Harris would have been a thousand times better, at least she didn't loving molest anyone personally - can and need to be told that their bullshit is unacceptable. Won't be easy, and it probably won't happen quickly, but checking out and saying it's all loving hopeless means it won't happen at all. So. There. I guess. That's about the best I can do right now, ray of sunshine wise. 
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Apr 14, 2020 12:48
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At we will still have wrestling https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1250024833305452544?s=21
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Apr 14, 2020 12:54
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Woofer posted:Saying that when the government got involved in slavery And fought in the civil war they got involved in state commerce so they should be able to now. What, you gonna disagree with the outcome of the civil war now? *sobs uncontrollably at how true this is*
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Apr 14, 2020 12:55
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That Works posted:I know this is just because it is prudent / expedient, but it's hard not to squint a little at it and wonder about future balkanization. Considering states had to start bringing in press to cover delivery of medical supplies to keep the Feds from stealing it, it's absolutely a tribute to far cooler heads that nobody's gotten shot over it. The whole damned thing feels fragile as hell and is of course headed by the dumbest mother fucker to ever assume office
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Apr 14, 2020 12:57
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goatsestretchgoals posted:Real people named it Cascadia. It's only Cascadia when you useless west coast states confirm the abolition of DST so our lazy Premier will follow suit
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Apr 14, 2020 13:00
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Milo and POTUS posted:Considering states had to start bringing in press to cover delivery of medical supplies to keep the Feds from stealing it, it's absolutely a tribute to far cooler heads that nobody's gotten shot over it. The whole damned thing feels fragile as hell and is of course headed by the dumbest mother fucker to ever assume office A dumb motherfucker who wants life to become a 80s made for TV action movie where he pounds on his desk and orders people killed.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:04
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BigDave posted:A dumb motherfucker who wants life to become a 80s made for TV action movie where he pounds on his desk and orders people killed. Uhhhhh..... he does know how those end for said table thumper, right?
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Apr 14, 2020 13:05
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Old Boot posted:So. There. I guess. That's about the best I can do right now, ray of sunshine wise. I've got another for you, with the caveat that it's just one state poll. https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1250008948830285824?s=19 Field date of the middle of last week. There have been stories that the White House has already stopped feeding their internal data to Trump as a morning sugar high - it's pretty clear that the flag-rallying bounce is completely loving gone. Biden's thing is going to be that he's a milquetoast warm body with empathy and deference to an army of experts and that might be exactly what people want.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:06
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I’m hoping Trump basically saying the president should be a dictator will get through to the same chuds who lambasted Obama for trying to be a dictator. But alas,
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Apr 14, 2020 13:11
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Old Boot posted:...So. There. I guess. That's about the best I can do right now, ray of sunshine wise. To add to your brief moment of optimism consider our experience here in Virginia. Our governor is a blackface wearing center Dem and our Lt gov is a sexpest. But with plenty of hustle and grassroots efforts we flipped the legislature blue in 2018 and in the process primaries a bunch of centrist dems with actual progressives. The progressives didn't get everything they wanted out of our legislative session, but we did get mandatory gun background checks, red flag laws, decriminalized pot, minimum wage increases, the first southern states to pass LGBTQ discrimination protection, ratifying the ERA, a massive expansion to early voting, got rid of the law preventing cities from removing traitor's statues and started the process of removing the statue of Col. Lee from the state capitol grounds. The point being there are reasons not to give up. It took the tea party 10 years to go from rascal scooter parades to Trump and the left needs to play both the short and long game.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:23
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Uhhhhh..... he does know how those end for said table thumper, right? In mainstream Hollywood productions, yes, but I'm talking about Showtime/Movie Channel original productions, the kind of stuff that Stephen Segal was doing in the 80s before Under Seige. The hero is a former ex-cop scummy motherfucker in a leather jacket, who spin kicks vaguely ethnic gang members wearing cut off jean jackets and headbands, the love interest is a Madonna knockoff with dirty bleached curly hair and jean shorts, and the main villain is a washed up Hong Kong action star with a shaved head and is actually named Mister Big.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:30
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BigDave posted:In mainstream Hollywood productions, yes, but I'm talking about Showtime/Movie Channel original productions, the kind of stuff that Stephen Segal was doing in the 80s before Under Seige. I’ve been saying for years that boomers watched Lethal Weapon and have, as a generation, decided that that’s how cops should behave.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:31
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If you dont want spin kicks get the gently caress out of my America
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Apr 14, 2020 13:34
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C.M. Kruger posted:Twitter rhetoric from wannabee revolutionaries aside, I think a lot of American left/liberal people still believe there is a political solution available. The left-DSA faction has their people like AOC and Ilhan Omar getting elected and Bernie coming extremely close to the nomination twice now, and the liberal capitalist/centrists think they'll get a return to their stability and slow progress, since Trump lost the popular vote back in 2016 and the democrats have managed to do well in elections since then. The upcoming 2-3 SCOTUS seats are enough of a reason for me to vote for the brain pudding Iraq war preacher. Clinton wasnt exactly a progressive hero and managed to get RBG on the court. Hopefully the guys doing the Weekend at Bernie's act with Biden can nominate a good replacement. A future progressive in that office will have more success with a 5-4 majority.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:If you dont want spin kicks get the gently caress out of my America No honest vigilante needs more then a frontal kick!
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Apr 14, 2020 13:58
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Casimir Radon posted:Where oh where are the states rights people now? Have you guys forgotten that it's "STATES RIGHTS*" not "STATES RIGHTS" *certain restrictions apply, not redeemable in CA, NY, or WA, can only redeem if the current president is a non-white non-Republican. Only valid when the rights of minorities, drugs, or abortion are being talked about. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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facialimpediment posted:I've got another for you, with the caveat that it's just one state poll. I mean... I always want my politicians to be empathetic and willing to listen to experts. That's like, the ideal politician.
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