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mortons stork posted:It's super cool 'cause he was actually starting to lose ground as reflected in opinion polls and now he's all but guaranteed to be a 40%+ force in parliament lmao thanks fiscal hawks. It will all be explained in the Dutch/German press as "look you can't trust the hothead Italians with their fiery blood and lazy work hours".
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Junior G-man posted:Italy will be the one to watch at the moment I think, even before Rona their politics were super febrile and they're rightly pissed as gently caress. Yep, I can see Italy going down the far-right hole soon. Orange Devil posted:The last time that happened the police went in and beat up the firemen. ACAB BTW https://imgur.com/HLC3jZd Is this the image you were thinking about? That was the 2013 firefigthers strike in Barcelona to protest against cuts imposed by the catalan government, because you know, austerity. Those were strange days, catalan civil servants fighting against each other and the middle class aplauding the use of police force with this line of reasoning"how dare those guys protest, they have better working conditions and salary than many people, we are suffering too, gently caress them hard". This one is also famous for being massively used as fake news during the incidents in 2017. There was also a firefighters strike in 2018 but no one cared because everyone was busy bickering about ethnonationalistic bullshit. Sometimes I think this country should loving burn to the ground and start anew.
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Apr 10, 2020 10:31
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Riot cops beating up firefighters also happened a few months ago in France.
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Like I just fundamentally don't understand how that doesn't end with cops' houses mysteriously burning down.
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Orange Devil posted:Like I just fundamentally don't understand how that doesn't end with cops' houses mysteriously burning down. Because firefighters are generally decent people unlike cops.
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I remember watching some livestream of the firemen getting clubbed in Spain in 2012.
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Firemen and EMTs train to save people and it gets pounded into their heads that people deserve to be saved. Cops train to opress people and get it pounded into their heads that that is saving people and it makes them heroes.
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Cops should be trained to do something useful, like quit and get a real job
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This explains a lot about why the Nether Realm is such a bitch about corona relief, they think they are protected by their superior Aryan genetic. This is probably why in France the most affected region is Alsace-Lorraine (whose population is famously of Italian/Iberic stock, as everyone knows) while Provence is largely unaffected (obviously due to the lack of Mediterranean genes on the Cote d'Azur).
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Cat Mattress posted:This explains a lot about why the Nether Realm is such a bitch about corona relief, they think they are protected by their superior Aryan genetic. Looks like past ghosts of liberal thought in Europe about race and blood keeps coming up in international relations, when ideological convictions back in the day explained away societal turbulences like the French revolution to such nonsense about climates and "celtic blood" and thus painted themselves as a race of liberal free men who are above the race of socialist louses. Who will finally uproot this cancerous root of racism on this continent?
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I don't speak French so I can't comment on the article, but I have seen zero claims of aryan supremacy in Dutch media, which would be dumb when there's clearly thousands of excess deaths each week looking at the statistics. Also Gent isn't in the Netherlands and we pay little attention to Belgium at the best of times, I doubt anyone is importing their racism from there, we have plenty of domestic sources, they just don't claim immunity to corona.
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I love that every manager and finance guy is endlessly having 3 hour conference calls and loving around with spreadsheets and forecasts because finally theire jobs are on the line. My multi billion dollar IT multinational company has them every loving day trying to figure out what money will be coming in and the answer is always "we don't loving know" because no one loving knows. Guys that run 100 million revenue areas of business constantly saying they haven't worked as hard in their life, only to have that work be a big fat zero.gotta admire the hustle. Edit:what the gently caress this isn't cspam
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Apr 10, 2020 18:59
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Are full restrictions still in place in Italy or are they starting to slowly be lifted?
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I know it's bad but the fact that our finance minister ghoul's first name is Wopke made me immediately suspiscious of him. Well that and his party...mostly his party but I just wanted to type Wopke.quote:Edit:what the gently caress this isn't cspam But it could be, imagine twhat we could achieve.
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Grouchio posted:Are full restrictions still in place in Italy or are they starting to slowly be lifted? They're only starting to talk about maybe lifting some restrictions at the end of this month.
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Cat Mattress posted:This explains a lot about why the Nether Realm is such a bitch about corona relief, they think they are protected by their superior Aryan genetic. Well if there's some innate immunity against covid I'm not seeing it, since the Netherlands are doing pretty badly right now
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I haven't seen cultural superiority re: virus immunity/weaknesses in belgian newspapers, the only thing I have seen is "they made too much debt before" and similar economics pearlclutching by capitalists and their bourgie allies. Not to dismiss the concern over a racist paper from a national university, but it's not getting mainstream traction. yet.
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Will be interesting to see whether they'll follow the Hitler-route and eventually determine that no, it was their race that was inferior and deserves to be whither away against the onslaught of this plague.
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Conte today remarked that he thinks MES is "inadequate" and that Italy will still be fighting for eurobonds. Remains to be seen whether this is an attempt to not come out humiliated from the compromise that was hugely in favor of the German and Dutch governments or he really means it.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Will be interesting to see whether they'll follow the Hitler-route and eventually determine that no, it was their race that was inferior and deserves to be whither away against the onslaught of this plague. That argument was already used ad nauseam (with the quiet part kept quiet ) as justification why Northern Europe didn't need to take any precautions while first China, then Iran, then Italy were croaking
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Looks like past ghosts of liberal thought in Europe about race and blood keeps coming up in international relations, when ideological convictions back in the day explained away societal turbulences like the French revolution to such nonsense about climates and "celtic blood" and thus painted themselves as a race of liberal free men who are above the race of socialist louses. Who will finally uproot this cancerous root of racism on this continent? Different populations have different genetic makeup and that will have effects on a multitude of diseases. There is no racism in having some populations lucking out in regards to corona infections, even if they are white. Nobody in northern Europe except neonazis have used superior genetics as an argument in discussing the covid19 response.
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Zudgemud posted:Nobody in northern Europe except neonazis have used superior genetics as an argument in discussing the covid19 response. That's not as reassuring as you might think.
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Lord Stimperor posted:That argument was already used ad nauseam (with the quiet part kept quiet ) as justification why Northern Europe didn't need to take any precautions while first China, then Iran, then Italy were croaking
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I keep telling you, it's going to end with open Nurgle worship.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I keep telling you, it's going to end with open Nurgle worship. Wasn't nurgle the nicest chaos god?
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An insane mind posted:Wasn't nurgle the nicest chaos god? If you don't mind being infected with so many diseases that your body literally rots away, then yes, you're correct.
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An insane mind posted:Wasn't nurgle the nicest chaos god?
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Based on how useless the EP has been in actually passing efficient regulations against pollution, I'm pretty sure Nurgle worship i already practically official.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:No no, I meant the Hitler "The Slavs are subhuman!" -> "Well, the Slavs are kicking our asses so clearly we Germans deserve to be wiped out" transition, except with coronavirus. Oh excuse me, I must have gotten my fascisms mixed up.
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Yanis published an article in The Guardian. It's basically a longform version of his tweet that was posted earlier in this thread. https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/apr/11/eu-coronavirus-relief-deal-enemies-debt-eurozone
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And so it begins "Brussels points to four big problems in Portugal besides the virus - public service salaries, pension expense, health expense and financial sector stability" https://www.dn.pt/edicao-do-dia/09-...impression=true In the middle of a loving pandemic. gently caress these people
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once again, nobody has learned anything from the past hundred years this will definitely not incentivise people to vote for far-right Eurosceptic parties, nope
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Brussels complaining about healthcare spending in the middle of a pandemic is beyond hosed up
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The usual script I see. Also complaining about financial sector instability after all the bullcrap that happened in the last crisis is like complaining that the sky is blue.
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Welcome to the new poo poo, same as the old poo poo.
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Venomous posted:once again, nobody has learned anything from the past hundred years not at all SlowBloke posted:A Tecnč poll is making the rounds on all right/centre-right aligned papers
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orange sky posted:And so it begins Nice left-wing government you have there Portugal. Shame if something were to happen to it. Celexi posted:Brussels complaining about healthcare spending in the middle of a pandemic is beyond hosed up It's downright criminal. What exactly do they expect will happen if Portugal were to announce health care spending cuts right now? Or at all in the next what, years? Like even if we accept these ghouls' narratives, do they really think any European electorate is going to be ok with health care cuts given recent lived experience? I've also seen a bunch of interviews with Dutch nurses and the like, who for context have been on intermittent strikes (this is the Dutch way of striking where the strike is announced months in advance and lasts for a single day and is thus completely useless and accomplishes nothing, but hey at least this way a judge will officially say your strike is legal) for the last year and a half, and they say things like: "now that people have seen how important we are we are sure that once all this is over the union will be able to negotiate those workload reductions and pay increases we've been demanding for years" or "surely the government will have to translate all that appreciation they are verbally showing us into better compensation and workload reforms after this crisis is over" and I keep thinking to myself that this is utter naivete. Like, the time to negotiate all that poo poo is right this instant, your negotiating position has never been stronger. Threaten with a strike *during this crisis* and you'll get something done. I understand why they don't do it, because they feel like they'd be threatening people's lives to achieve their goals and they are healthcare workers dedicated to helping other people. But their opposition, these neoliberal ghouls, absolutely will threaten and even end other people's lives to achieve their political goals and until that is recognized nothing is going to change. They'll prey on your dedication to helping others as if it is a weakness, rather than your greatest strength. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 10:05 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Cat Mattress posted:IMO the Portuguese government would be justified in drone-striking these terrorists. If these people were treated as terrorists it'd make me reconsider my opposition to Guantanamo Bay.
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