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sebzilla posted:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiTCrGhaoksBvCdbhU4F8OQw_gRRp1KAU3DKmszwqvmqeXFg/viewform Given how much scrolling I had to do to sign it, that's a lot of signatures  144000 signatures demanding Lord McNicol be ejected from the labour party.
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Marenghi posted:The report just confirms what I always thought during Corbyn's leadership. It was a waste of time to try bring the Blairites to his side. I've had thoughts like this myself. Anyone who knows Labour internal politics - is this sort of thing something the leader's office actually has the power to prevent, or is it something that's controlled by other sections of the party that the leader's office can't control?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Seems reasonably fair (I've skimmed through the report a few times now). Come join us in the cccc UK chat thread if you want to talk without politics stuff It's a BYOB subforum
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goddamnedtwisto posted:
Doing an IDpol on 'Karen' is minutely more cringe than usual but neolibs be manipulating identity politics this isn't new. It is lowkey amazing though cause the framing of Karen does have an actual class element, in that the worker being abused is probably precariat, the Guardian Regulars are legit the Platonic ideal of cowardly evil and are so loving grim, even in the old meme environment they come out with the dumbest possible take.
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Gort posted:I've had thoughts like this myself. Presumably, with a bit of effort, motions could be brought to Conference that all paid positions within the Labour Party - including those at head office - are electable and/or term-limited. That way, even if a careerist Tristan ends up in a job, everyone'll get a chance to book him out again within a few years.
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Is Unison doing anything about Oldknow? She's assistant general secretary.
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OwlFancier posted:Is Unison doing anything about Oldknow? Probably giving her a pay rise. My mam was in Unison until her retirement last year & has nothing but bad things to say about them
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Does anyone have a fresh link to the report? The one posted earlier in the thread is now showing "URL signature expired". I thought Jonathan Ashworth was one of the better-rated members of Corbyn's cabinet? Bit disheartening to think he may have been involved, though it's not necessarily the case that husband and wife are precisely on the same page on this. Between this, Rayner being a bit poo poo during the leadership election, and even Pidcock getting a bit TERFy, we don't have a whole lot of good MPs to look to. In terms of Labour membership, I'll keep hold of mine for now and see how this report plays out. If the party as a whole is unable to respond to such blatant sabotaging, then it really is useless as a tool going forward.
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Jose posted:Come join us in the cccc UK chat thread if you want to talk without politics stuff I used to post there years ago until they put the byob theme in, and I just couldn't get past the colours. Is there any way to turn it off? I might just not be byob enough.
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Aphex- posted:I used to post there years ago until they put the byob theme in, and I just couldn't get past the colours. Is there any way to turn it off? I might just not be byob enough. use the phone app and post from the garden like a normal person
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Aphex- posted:I used to post there years ago until they put the byob theme in, and I just couldn't get past the colours. Is there any way to turn it off? I might just not be byob enough. The rules thread has a post on how to disable the stylesheet that causes those colours
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Well then it looks like I'm not going to get much work done today!
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Just did my shopping for the next week and a bit. Not as busy as I had feared, I was even able to get some beans, which makes a nice change! I hope folks don't mind but I think I am going to take a quick break from this thread to try and get on with some other stuff, mainly reading and working out things. Keep safe folks.
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Alone time with your new bean supply. I understand. Keep well Josef.
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GordonTheDeadFish posted:I thought Jonathan Ashworth was one of the better-rated members of Corbyn's cabinet? Bit disheartening to think he may have been involved, though it's not necessarily the case that husband and wife are precisely on the same page on this. Between this, Rayner being a bit poo poo during the leadership election, and even Pidcock getting a bit TERFy, we don't have a whole lot of good MPs to look to. On the one hand, Ashworth seems like he's good at his job, but on the other, a couple of days before the last election he threw Corbyn under a bus, then got into the bus and drove it back and forth over him, before setting fire to what remained of his twitching corpse. So, swings and roundabouts.
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justcola posted:Not usually a fan of Will Self but watching him rile up Francois is a good start to the day Disappointed he didn't take a swing at Self and get himself arrested
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justcola posted:Not usually a fan of Will Self but watching him rile up Francois is a good start to the day I was just clicking through these, it's funny how trending topics work. https://twitter.com/Meggymooforyou/status/1248002616740720642
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I know this is the US (New Jersey?) but... https://twitter.com/erinbiba/status/1249962468304211968?s=20
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justcola posted:Not usually a fan of Will Self but watching him rile up Francois is a good start to the day Wasn't that like four years ago?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I know this is the US (New Jersey?) but... It's the 2012 of browsers.
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OwlFancier posted:Wasn't that like four years ago? I hope so - my immediate thought was 'Why are they sat so close together?!'
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Zalakwe posted:It's the 2012 of browsers. More like the 2002, if you look at when its stock dropped off.
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It feels like 10 years ago but I was going on 4 because I thought it was not that long after the referendum.
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Tesseraction posted:I've been in and out of politics due to personal life turbulence so it's always kinda wild to remember that Boris's wish to get Brexit done and move on managed to be such a monkey's paw. Monkey's paw for whom? He's getting exactly what he wanted. It's the nation that's getting hosed.
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At the risk of stating the obvious, they're not using 'Trot' in good faith, to describe actual Trotskyists. I've seen it used more often lately, so there was probably some internal messaging within their groups to use it more often. Its basically a snarl word to discredit/dehumanise the left elements within the Party before they even open their mouths. Like 'feminist', 'socialist', 'SJW', its a loaded term - the public generally don't know/care about the details, just that it conjures for them the image of extremists: beardy, beret-wearing, shouting, tankie types.
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Tesseraction posted:Pretty sure going down as the Plague Minister isn't his grand plan for the history books. No, but being are brave PM who took the roni on the chin and then came out the other side to save the country probably isn't going to play too badly for him. It's obvious by now that the govt isn't going to get raked over the coals for its piss poor planning for this, nor it's systematic gutting of the NHS which has made it that much worse. As long as he keeps making twitter videos where he tells people to stay at home, and as long as the death toll isn't in the hundreds of thousands, he'll be more popular than ever once this is all over.
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Tesseraction posted:Pretty sure going down as the Plague Minister isn't his grand plan for the history books. Why not? He gets to look Churchillian, the PM who "stared down the epidemic and toughed it out". poo poo, we're not even a month removed from "we just have to wait for everyone to be infected, and we're in the clear" and even the press have completely forgotten about it.
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Not sure that's "even" of course they've forgotten about it it's politically inconvenient, they forgot about a lot of stuff like the iraq war being done entirely on lies, but near everyone in the UK still loving hates blair.
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