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remember when virgil said the podcast wouldnt last through the 2020 election
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net work error posted:I was trying to remember what movie I saw that talked about hair metal and the PMRC and Chris mentioned it at the end being "The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years"
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Macasaurus posted:remember when virgil said the podcast wouldnt last through the 2020 election turns out he meant himself
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El Burbo posted:turns out he meant himself rip in piss bitch
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Apr 14, 2020 02:58
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I only listen to the show and follow the hosts on twitter, is there some other thing I should be doing to know what the gently caress people are talking in this thread?
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Apr 14, 2020 03:04
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AnEdgelord posted:I only listen to the show and follow the hosts on twitter, is there some other thing I should be doing to know what the gently caress people are talking in this thread? what, besides following the thread? that is the way to get psychotic, granular detail on the dry boys people are talking about the fact that Virgil has been incommunicado with the world and his podcasting pals for almost a month, seems pretty straightforward to me
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Apr 14, 2020 03:08
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Mr. Lobe posted:what, besides following the thread? that is the way to get psychotic, granular detail on the dry boys I got that but then people started talking about trouble related to bernie dropping out and it sounded like some new poo poo
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Halloween Jack posted:Decline 2 rules, and the extremely drunken interview with Chris Holmes is probably the main thing people remember WASP for. sucks that was staged i remember ozzy claimed the scene with him cooking breakfast was too but given his parkinsons diagnosis i dunno
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Apr 14, 2020 03:12
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chapo gets stronger by abandoning the weakest among them, like fish
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Apr 14, 2020 03:16
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AnEdgelord posted:I got that but then people started talking about trouble related to bernie dropping out and it sounded like some new poo poo that's just extrapolation from known facts 1. the chapos were pretty heavy in the tank for bernie 2. things didn't go so well for bernie 3. therefore, things probably arent going great for chapo
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Apr 14, 2020 03:19
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the twitch stream from saturday they said they've been in contact with virgil and he was fine but doing his own thing for the moment
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Apr 14, 2020 03:21
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The Muppets On PCP posted:sucks that was staged
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The Muppets On PCP posted:the twitch stream from saturday they said they've been in contact with virgil and he was fine but doing his own thing for the moment just let it the gently caress go, virgil just let it go 
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it's hard to say this without coming across as pessimistic, but who didnt see this coming, really? when's the last time we've had a One-Term President? you all knew they were going to do everything in their power to sabotage Bernie's campaign! You knew that the DNC could not give any less of a gently caress about their constituents! never forget these Dogshit-For-brains thought John Kerry was good enough against Bush
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Apr 14, 2020 04:53
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it was reasonable given the previous few months to assume they didn't have it in them to pull everything together at almost literally the last minute to get biden across the finish line. a ton of state level officials (and voting dnc members) were definitely hedging their bets and going with bloomberg in the weeks before sc, so it's not like it was a long-planned and highly coordinated screwjob but lesson learned the party still has some sway with the most loyal voters
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it was reasonable given the previous few months to assume they didn't have it in them to pull everything together at almost literally the last minute to get biden across the finish line. a ton of state level officials (and voting dnc members) were definitely hedging their bets and going with bloomberg in the weeks before sc, so it's not like it was a long-planned and highly coordinated screwjob 
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The Muppets On PCP posted:it was reasonable given the previous few months to assume they didn't have it in them to pull everything together at almost literally the last minute to get biden across the finish line. a ton of state level officials (and voting dnc members) were definitely hedging their bets and going with bloomberg in the weeks before sc, so it's not like it was a long-planned and highly coordinated screwjob Seriously. I know this makes it hurts more so it's easier to pretend it didn't happen but we were loving winning for a while.
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Race Realists posted:it's hard to say this without coming across as pessimistic, but who didnt see this coming, really? Things change. I'm 32 and politics has changed a lot in my lifetime, even considering we hadn't landed on the moon 32 years before I was born. I know politics =/= science but I figure progress = progress, ya know? I'm definitely naive and not well-read (and am a small town loving Missourian to boot which makes me chronically unhip) but the idea of a Democratic Socialist being the front-runner seemed promising considering we have the hindsight to see that centrists don't work against a charismatic populist preaching Nationalism. Yeah yeah I know  I guess I wanted the free-fall from optimism I've been on to end, starting with excitedly voting for the First Black President in my first ever election (  ), through learning about how much of a literal terrorist organization the US government is, through seeing my neighbors and family members elect someone who clearly may be our version of a Real Bad Hombre In History Books and then act real lovely about it. I know a lot of this is just the stripping of the artifice of my privilege and/or lucky life of avoiding hardship, so it's part growing pains of maturity, but a lot of it feels like an impossibly crushing weight of powerlessness as my future is forcibly diverted into the toilet along with millions of other people because line go up and that's literally it. Because those people who are destroying lives for .3% stock uptick this quarter know what happens when the vast majority of people become pissed, right? I don't want to have to start breaking windows or starting fires, but we're past the useless horror of open class warfare, right? Right?I don't know if that answers the question, sorry, I have insomnia again. It hasn't really happened much but ever since the shelter-at-home order my ability to sleep is real fucky. Best case scenario the olds Are Right and this whole thing will blow over and I can be quote-shamed for being a smoothbrain idiot in a future that isn't hell
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Race Realists posted:You knew that the DNC could not give any less of a gently caress about their constituents! The DNC cares very much about their constituents and moves heaven and earth to make things better for them. It's just that the American people are NOT the DNC's constituents.
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Apr 14, 2020 06:20
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LMAO as a fellow 32 year old... when have the olds ever been right about literally anything? Like during what major world or national event did the people in charge of our country not just lie directly to our faces about what was going on in a provable way?
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Apr 14, 2020 06:27
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I dunno, I listened to rock music as a kid and now I'm a member of The Satanic Temple so they got that one right on the loving money
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Apr 14, 2020 06:35
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Sure, politics are changing, but I don't think one can conclude that there is progress. Maybe people like Bernie is just a part of the of the mschine we call late capitalism / capitalism with asian characteristics. Maybe he, and the squad, is like Putin's opposition. It's hard to point to any meaningful victories for the left during the last 30 years; capitalism is seemingly in crisis like never before, but there has been no great left awareness. A left answer to the issues we face, if it has been formulated, is not really being presented to the populace.
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thotsky posted:Sure, politics are changing, but I don't think one can conclude that there is progress. Maybe people like Bernie is just a part of the of the mschine we call late capitalism / capitalism with asian characteristics. Maybe he, and the squad, is like Putin's opposition. It's hard to point to any meaningful victories for the left during the last 30 years; capitalism is seemingly in crisis like never before, but there has been no great left awareness. A left answer to the issues we face, if it has been formulated, is not really being presented to the populace. OK fix it then
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one of my favorite moments was the daughter of the mayor of charlotte, who's a left activist, openly calling out her mom for selling out to bloomberg
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Isaac Chotiner did a great interview with Mayor Bowser after she endorsed Bloomberg:quote:So you are not at all concerned that some of his more controversial stances in the past, such as on stop-and-frisk, and which he defended as recently as 2019, are being changed for political expediency? https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-dcs-mayor-endorsed-michael-bloomberg
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AnEdgelord posted:I got that but then people started talking about trouble related to bernie dropping out and it sounded like some new poo poo It's people making up all kinds of stories and reasoning based on very little actual information.
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thotsky posted:Sure, politics are changing, but I don't think one can conclude that there is progress. Maybe people like Bernie is just a part of the of the mschine we call late capitalism / capitalism with asian characteristics. Maybe he, and the squad, is like Putin's opposition. It's hard to point to any meaningful victories for the left during the last 30 years; capitalism is seemingly in crisis like never before, but there has been no great left awareness. A left answer to the issues we face, if it has been formulated, is not really being presented to the populace. LoL no, when an alternative is presented to the populace then the machine just cheats and consumes them and spits them out and it becomes clear that we would never have been given that choice no matter what. A team of fewer than a percent of a percent of the population have ensured that only the rich make decisions, and the overwhelmingly poor population of this country cannot hope to win a violent revolution against an army of stealth killer robots that can tactically SCUD you from 15 miles, higher and further away than the naked eye can see.
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Bust Rodd posted:and the overwhelmingly poor population of this country cannot hope to win a violent revolution against an army of stealth killer robots that can tactically SCUD you from 15 miles, higher and further away than the naked eye can see. our military is routinely fought to a standstill by roving bands of goat herders armed with 20 year old toyotas and cold war surplus materiel. it's subject to the same late stage capitalism that's destroyed every other facet of our society
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Apr 14, 2020 13:44
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There are some pretty stark differences between Afghanistan and continental USA tbh
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Apr 14, 2020 13:55
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What happened to our boy? Did he catch covid?
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Apr 14, 2020 14:01
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The idea that the US military could obliterate any domestic insurgency is itself propaganda that is spread specifically to discourage one starting. "It could happen here" is a decent podcast that has its problems but it does layout very convincingly how an domestic insurgency would function and how hard it would be to actually root out once it got started.
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BBJoey posted:There are some pretty stark differences between Afghanistan and continental USA tbh a lot fewer weapons per capita in afghanistan for starters. and toyotas
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Apr 14, 2020 14:49
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A funny thing about that invincible drone army: you can destroy an armored vehicle with a drone from WalMart.
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Apr 14, 2020 14:55
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The American fedayee are all boomers and not really in shape to do much beyond eat fast food and vote (and die).
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thinkin about thos Boston pussys
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AnEdgelord posted:The idea that the US military could obliterate any domestic insurgency is itself propaganda that is spread specifically to discourage one starting. I’m not sure how many Iraqis, Iranians, Or Afghannis think their sister’s wedding getting blown up from sub-orbital space would consider it Propaganda. It’s also important to remember that the particular insurgency matters. A bunch of socialist radicals like MOVE in Philly? Firebombed with recycled payloads from the Philly PD evidence locker, an entire city block of brown and black people (and their kids) razed. Or you have the White Suprmemacist good ol’ boys in Oregon harboring republican lawmakers who refuse to vote and annexing herdlands to their farms with no legal backing and literally getting into armed shoot outs with feds and NOTHING LITERALLY NOTHING happens to any of them. If you haven’t seen it yet, the HBO Watchmen series is all about a white supremacist insurgency in Okhlahoma. It’s a direct sequel to the Alan Moore book, completely ignores the Zak Snyder film, and I think it does an incredible job illustrating how deep insurgencies go. TLDR: they only work if you have people on the inside. Bernie doesn’t have anyone on the inside.
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the watchmen tv show doesnt do an incredible job of anything
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The US military would not be able to put down an actual for-real insurrection in the US for two pretty obvious reasons. 1.) our military isn't big enough, and is structured to make contractors money. If even 20% of the US population revolted, that's close to 60-70 million people. We'd have to do a draft in the rest of the country to even have enough manpower to hold a line from Canada to Mexico. 2.) we don't have the institutional and ideological backing to actually kill Americans en masse. There's a very big difference between convincing racist cops to kill hundreds of blacks/browns in a city and convincing your military to wage a war of extermination on dozens of millions of Americans, many of whom look and act just like that military. boatloads of people would die either way, and that would be horrible, but you can't really win a war like that with tanks, drones, and the most expensive kit you can imagine.
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