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Like if you can't do a leftist organizing to get people to think ten thousand dead bodies and record unemployment is grounds to whinge at the government you've got piss all hope of doing anything else.
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Tesseraction posted:Pretty sure going down as the Plague Minister isn't his grand plan for the history books. neither was winning the brexit referendum but he certainly made the best of it. they'll forge ahead with an even more half-baked brexit and the subsequent economic slump will be blamed on china, it's depressingly predictable.
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Guavanaut posted:Also even world class bellends have picked up that the government is handling this terribly. How many days do we give him before he starts taking victory laps and typing in capitals let's open the UK for business?
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Guavanaut posted:Also even world class bellends have picked up that the government is handling this terribly. now's not the time for criticising the government piers, now is the time for constructively keeping quiet unless you're planning on talking about maybe giving some people a medal lol that piers loving moron is doing a better job of going in on the government's fuckups at the right time (i.e. while they can still be shamed in to doing the right thing instead of after they killed all the people) than the leader of the opposition garbage
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If you've ever met some NOLS-y student labour types, you know the attitude. They loving hate the left, with the burning passion of a thousand suns, and any action is justified if it's getting one over on those loving trots. Speaking of which, two I haven't seen elsewhere: Conspiring to prevent reforms to student voting: https://twitter.com/GuyLucasBhana/status/1249697218245910530 Conspiring to cc Tom Watson in to things they wanted leaked, lol https://twitter.com/GuyLucasBhana/status/1249697220754051074
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https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 I mean, just... What the gently caress is wrong with people?
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 when he's lying in bed watching netflix he's at least less able to actively do damage i guess
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 He hosed up so badly he nearly got himself killed, like if Haig had personally led the charge on the first day of the somme. There is no hope for this country lol. You can argue all day about whether Kier or Jezza would pull higher numbers, nobody is beating the cult of personality they've somehow built around that oaf.
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josh04 posted:If you've ever met some NOLS-y student labour types, you know the attitude. They loving hate the left, with the burning passion of a thousand suns, and any action is justified if it's getting one over on those loving trots. wow everything in that thread is real bad and those people should absolutely not be in the party, and if I was in charge of it I'd be very concerned that this was allowed to happen and be pushing for the people named in this report to be suspended wait sorry, we need to refrain from drawing conclusions before the investigation is complete, after all these WhatsApps openly discussing betraying the party could be part of some elaborate roleplaying game or something
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 I'm going to keep banging this drum over and over again: most people are not really being affected by this. The numbers are still (relatively) small enough that most people don't know someone who's died from it, or hell even been infected. What they are seeing is a weak lockdown that the media are treating like the Blitz, with a clap once a week for Are Key Workers. There's a government broadcast once a day that is a total farce, with absolute 0 follow up. The only journalists daring to go against the media seem to be exclusively on twitter (which most sane people don't go on). And now we've had a week of BoJo in hospital with everyone saying how brave he was. Even with Piers now criticising the government, is he doing it on his prime time public TV show? I highly doubt it.
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I'm not watching the piers Morgan show to find out, but he did post this earlier https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1250027801081757697?s=20 so sort of? he certainly sounds more angry about it than the guy currently leading the opposition ever has
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Apr 14, 2020 13:17
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EvilHawk posted:I'm going to keep banging this drum over and over again: most people are not really being affected by this. The numbers are still (relatively) small enough that most people don't know someone who's died from it, or hell even been infected. I'm not entirely sure that's true. I know of one friend of the family who's in the ICU and in a bad way, and two of my in-laws have tested positive.
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 
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EvilHawk posted:I'm going to keep banging this drum over and over again: most people are not really being affected by this. Not my experience I'm afraid, multiple friends and family members have/had it, couple fof/family died from it. Don't really know anyone who hasn't been affected directly in some capacity. We have about 90k confirmed cases now, that's 1 in 600. Add on the unconfirmed cases in the community which might be as high as 10 for every 1 formally confirmed and it's closer to 1 in 60. Guesswork and anecdote certainly, but that's all we've got right now.
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forkboy84 posted:Dropped a paving slab on my big toe and currently hoping it doesn't turn purple. I will be irked if I got until 35 before breaking a bone & did it in the most boneheaded way Seriously, the new metal-free electricians' shoes are a lot more comfortable than the steel toecaps of old, and they'll cope with a dropped bench motor so they should cope with a paving slab.
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Rustybear posted:Not my experience I'm afraid, multiple friends and family members have/had it, couple fof/family died from it. Don't really know anyone who hasn't been affected directly in some capacity. It's definitely getting worse, the issue is that every time it gets worse the government gets to step in and enact the next part of the plan. I saw yesterday the army are starting to fill more support roles, so now the media gets to run clips of Are Boys In Green helping out (which inevitably leads to patriotic sentiment and all that nonsense). My point is that throughout this whole crisis the government has been reacting to the public and so they've been consistently seen as being in line with public opinion. The public wanted a lockdown so the government gave them one. The public wanted the lockdown tightened, so the government gave the police the direction to start issuing fines. As long as the government continues to fill this role they're going to enjoy high approval ratings. The job Kier Starmer should be doing right now is to be publicly calling out the government everywhere he possibly could (but politics is wrong whilst coronovirus is ongoing, or something). Failing that, the Labour Party should be collecting all the evidence they can to start enquiries when it's over.
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Had the Rona over the last week (Fairly mild case, like a bad flu no need for sympathy). On returning to work (from home) today I'm shocked by how many people tell me I'm the first person they know who has caught it.
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EvilHawk posted:It's definitely getting worse, the issue is that every time it gets worse the government gets to step in and enact the next part of the plan. I saw yesterday the army are starting to fill more support roles, so now the media gets to run clips of Are Boys In Green helping out (which inevitably leads to patriotic sentiment and all that nonsense). Boris went on tv a few weeks back and said 'some of you will die and that's a sacrifice i'm willing to make' and then backtracked a week later when it was clear that the UK would be alone in saying the quiet part loud. We're now paying the price in terms of number of dead by head of population and.... nobody cares. I'm talking soft tory voters who've now lost a loved one and still steadfastly back boris. If the death of a loved one doesn't reach those people, how does amazing policy ideas or Kier's new haircut etc. Sorry not really lot of point to this, just general howling into the void.
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IMO a lot of that support for Johnson is because people want to support him. Like, because they're not cynical/realist/pessimistic/whatever bastards like people ITT, they actually feel drawn (or at least obliged) to the idea that the Government is doing A Great Job and that Johnson is some sort of hero. Add to that the fact that most people love a good LARP and this gives them the chance to act out WWII 'Keep Calm' Blitz Spirit fantasies. Hell, I spent the first day after I was off work tapping birch trees for sap, picking nettles for soup, picking mushrooms because I felt like this was the end times. That's just me LARPing a different scenario but it's equivalent to the Johnson=lion and Brittun will not be defeated shite. My mum literally said, in response to other countries going into lockdown, 'I don't think that will happen here, we're just not that sort of country'. Also this has really driven home to me that my grandparents, who in this case can probably be seen as representative, literally get their entire understanding of current affairs from three sources: - The Telegraph (daily subscription) - BBC News on TV (not website, so literally just the daily report which atm is mostly just a report by:) - Government spokespeople Imagine if literally the only information you had about the inside world came to you via those sources.
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1250008395878297600?s=19 Did you not watch the statement he released the day he got out of hospital? I guarantee most of the nation did and even as someone aware of the staggering hypocrisy of it I have to admit it was pretty powerful. Are brave NHS! You have to give things like these time to fade in the public consciousness before the bigger picture comes into view. That's why popular opinion typically starts to drop off sharply once these crises are actually over.
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Who's excited for the weekly "it's not the weekend any more" bump in reported deaths today? Reckon we'll top a thousand?
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sebzilla posted:Who's excited for the weekly "it's not the weekend any more" bump in reported deaths today? Reckon we'll top a thousand? The bump kicks in two days after a public holiday ends. Expect it on Wednesday instead.
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forkboy84 posted:Dropped a paving slab on my big toe and currently hoping it doesn't turn purple. I will be irked if I got until 35 before breaking a bone & did it in the most boneheaded way Well take it as an excuse to buy steel toed boots.
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Labour & Starmer can't do anything right just now. If they look into the report (either the contents or the leaking) the melts are going 'we have bigger more important things to focus on than the labour party infighting again. If Starmer dares to criticize the govt - 'now is not the time for politicing, we should be supporting the govt' If Starmer doesn't criticize the govt - 'where is the opposition, why aren't they opposing' (from the same people who say the above). I'm not a Starmer fan (I tend to think of him as a plank of wood), but whatever Labour do right now, they ain't going to win. So they may as well get into sorting out the fallout from that report. <IMHO>They need to look into the CONTENT of that report, issue it with names of complainants redacted* (apparently fascist websites have publicized names from it) - I've noticed it being deleted from a lot of places and I deleted all my tweets sharing links to it though I saved a copy to my computer), expel or at the very least suspend participants in the fifth column activities. </IMHO> Ed: *by 'complainants' I mean the individual ordinary members who have been named, not the staffers such as McNicol etc. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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lol stop with this political realism poo poo it's embarassing, starmer could do what is right but he's not, he's very explicitly not acting on the contents of the report, mostly because half the people involved are his immediate personal friends and of course the public leaked report will end up in everyone's hands but these people are named officials anyway, there's not a realistic or credible immediate threat as a result other than what has always been available, people telling you to not share things are gaslighting the poo poo out of you and trying to turn it into another issue and you're falling for it
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forkboy84 posted:Dropped a paving slab on my big toe and currently hoping it doesn't turn purple. I will be irked if I got until 35 before breaking a bone & did it in the most boneheaded way Toes are the horses of the skeleton, complete useless idiot hell fuckers vulnerable to injury at the slightest provocation. If it's any consolation visiting the hospital (at least unless there's evidence of severe bloodflow disruption - the toe going pale/cold) is completely pointless, just buddy-splint it to the one next to it. Wrap a splint/lolly stick/chip fork cut to the right length (clean it and sand/cut off any splinters obviously) in a couple of layers of gauze, stick it between the broken toe and its bigger neighbour, then wrap gauze/micropore tape around the two, tight enough to keep them together but loose enough that it's not restricting circulation. Obviously wash the toes carefully, keep off the foot as much as possible, elevate it and (for the first day) keep it cold. If you don't have gauze and micropore tape sticking plasters will do but be careful to not stick the broken toe at a weird angle. Make sure to take it off and wash the area carefully each day, replacing the splint if possible. Source: Have broken 7 toes now in successively more stupid ways, starting with two while playing football progressing to the middle three on my right foot falling over a suitcase I was using to stop the dog from getting upstairs while I was painting but was too lazy to move.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Toes are the horses of the skeleton, complete useless idiot hell fuckers vulnerable to injury at the slightest provocation. Please think of the toe suckers among us.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Toes are the horses of the skeleton, complete useless idiot hell fuckers vulnerable to injury at the slightest provocation. Yeah, that's just what the NHS site basically said, with the caveat being "if it's the big toe, come see us". Which I imagine I'll disregard unless it's actively too sore to walk on. Not really the time for a hospital visit. And no, I will never buy boots. Boots suck. Trainers 4 lyfe NotJustANumber99 posted:Please think of the toe suckers among us. Such people do not exist. Foot fetish is not a thing. Never has been, never will be. Far too gross to be a thing. People making GBS threads on each other, fine, whatever ticks your boat, but feet? That'd be like masturbating to video footage of the Red Army liberating Auschwitz. Inconcievable
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brian posted:lol stop with this political realism poo poo it's embarassing, starmer could do what is right but he's not, he's very explicitly not acting on the contents of the report, mostly because half the people involved are his immediate personal friends Yeah, you do what's right or you don't. That's what separates us from the centrists and the liberals, and it's a bar Starmer is entirely incapable of clearing
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brian posted:lol stop with this political realism poo poo it's embarassing, starmer could do what is right but he's not, he's very explicitly not acting on the contents of the report, mostly because half the people involved are his immediate personal friends Re complainants, I'm not talking about the guilty parties who darn well do need to be named, I'm talking about the individual ordinary members who have been named.
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forkboy84 posted:And no, I will never buy boots. Boots suck. Trainers 4 lyfe
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Re complainants, I'm not talking about the guilty parties who darn well do need to be named, I'm talking about the individual ordinary members who have been named. And did they ask you to remove it? I get being sympathetic to people who have their privacy invaded but there's no putting genies back in bottles at this point and I don't know why this is uniquely dangerous compared to any other labour member who's ever worn any party gear or gone canvassing, which presumably these people signed up to previously. Regardless the protection of members should be handled by the party for their culpability in all this due to their complete lack of transparency and money should be spent ensuring they're safe and I don't see Keir doing that either. The report itself needed to come to public attention and will be widely available regardless of whatever you do.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Labour & Starmer can't do anything right just now. Where does 're-appointing the various charmers named and shamed in the dossier to their old jobs in Labour HQ' fit on this analysis?
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Rustybear posted:Where does 're-appointing the various charmers named and shamed in the dossier to their old jobs in Labour HQ' fit on this analysis? In the acting on the content of the report, their expulsion or suspension. I guess what I am doing here is giving Starmer the benefit of the doubt that he was unaware of much of this, which is open to question. After all, the stuff about McNicol deliberately hampering investigations has been 'known' to members on the left of the party for a long while even without direct evidence. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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