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Spinz posted:I don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist. States report data too. Same could happen I guess in a Red one, but a lot aren’t fudging I feel. Like mine, numbers go up!
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friendly 2 da void posted:You don't have to think or guess on this one Spinz. They're not even good at reporting the numbers they do have. For example, the Florida ArcGIS lets you search via zip code. If you look up 33028 (Pembroke Pines) it looks like there's a massive outbreak there compared to the rest of the area. From what I was able to look up, I can't find any evidence of this being the case there... but I did find there was a mobile testing lab there for a small period of time. So all the zip data is completely wrong because they logged it as where the loving truck was set up.
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Waltzing Along posted:Rational person: in order to improve things, we are all going to have to sacrifice. Id rather be an rear end in a top hat person than eat loving flowers for the rest of my life
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Burt Sexual posted:States report data too. Same could happen I guess in a Red one, but a lot aren’t fudging I feel. Like mine, numbers go up! i mean it doesnt even have to be outright "fudging" on an entire state government level but more like some local authority only testing 20% or so of people who die, and/or misreporting some percentage (whether deliberately or otherwise), and the state governments not investigating too closely because its a hosed up chaotic time and just about every state organ is running skeleton crews if functional at all and barely keeping it together as it is. a collection of situations like that isnt a "conspiracy" but the end result is still the numbers being way off Earwicker fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Indy posted:Well, I would say that the easiest explanation is that this Wuhan lab had bad practices and released some virus filled bats that wound up at the wet market. virus releases from labs do not generally take the form of 'the whole dang living animal just up and flew outta here!' seriously that's a ridiculously small chance compared to the 100% absolutely known for certain fact of 'bats who naturally have this coronavirus and pangolins were kept together in a wet market'
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Mozi posted:virus releases from labs do not generally take the form of 'the whole dang living animal just up and flew outta here!' Hey you, we need to dispose of these bats. Kill them and burn them. -ok, proceeds to sell them at the market to make a few bucks.
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Alan Smithee posted:When Florida gets shelled the response from America will be uproarious laughter There is a significant non-zero chance that Florida, for whatever reason, decides or ends up bombing itself.
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I have to question the motivation of anyone who keeps wanting to talk about where this came from while hundreds of thousands of people die. I don't loving care. I don't care if it came from a wet market, a research center, or if Kim Kardashian queefed it out at a Harlem Globetrotters game, none of this changes the reality of what is happening in any conceivable way. Once we have this under control, yes, investigate the poo poo out of it so we can create best practices to avoid similar events. But if you are talking about bats right now it's because of either racism or some agenda you feel the need to push that you care more about than human lives, and there is no option 3.
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Ralph Crammed In posted:You're not insane because my husband wondered same thing today when we were on our walk with our son and I was blowing some bubbles for his toddler amusement. Also at that same time another toddler saw us outside and happily banged on the window to get our attention. My son just learned how to wave and he waved back, it was very cute. Same here, my boy is 10 months old, he’s supposed to be socialising so he doesn’t end up weird and that ain’t gonna be happening for a while. It’s a genuine worry, I hate the thought that this is impacting on him in any way at all. Weird time to be a new parent.
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Kharmakazy posted:I have to question the motivation of anyone who keeps wanting to talk about where this came from while hundreds of thousands of people die. China knew
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Id rather be an rear end in a top hat person than eat loving flowers for the rest of my life 
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Literally nobody I know has gotten their stimulus deposit yet, have any of you heard of anyone getting it? Seems a bit odd if they've supposedly been going out for several days now
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precision posted:Literally nobody I know has gotten their stimulus deposit yet, have any of you heard of anyone getting it? Seems a bit odd if they've supposedly been going out for several days now My fiance got hers yesterday
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precision posted:Literally nobody I know has gotten their stimulus deposit yet, have any of you heard of anyone getting it? Seems a bit odd if they've supposedly been going out for several days now A friend of mine got his, but I haven't received mine yet. Looks like they're being sent out in waves even electronically, for some reason.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Id rather be an rear end in a top hat person than eat loving flowers for the rest of my life I tried one of those burgerking almost meat burgers, they are not bad. re: the vegetable estrogen bullshit, if I grow tits I'll start a web stream 
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Indy posted:Hey you, we need to dispose of these bats. Kill them and burn them. regardless of what issues they had it's pretty stupid to think someone would walk out of a BSL-4 lab with a living infected animal, when the alternative explanation you can accept until further evidence comes to light requires no mental gymnastics whatsoever previous releases from labs have been stuff that directly infects humans b/c there are so many other ways for that to happen, whether a lab tech messes up and infects themselves, improper or incomplete sterilization of tools, lack of air filtration, whatever. they don't have pigs walking out the door when they're studying swine flu Mozi fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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CJacobs posted:A friend of mine got his, but I haven't received mine yet. Looks like they're being sent out in waves even electronically, for some reason. Good to know. The fact that they said they're not setting up the tracker until Friday sounded pretty strange since they seem to be claiming most everyone not on SS should be getting it this week
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sweet thursday posted:It's funny that at the first sign that social distancing may be working, we want to stop it immediately Everytime I reach a weight loss milestone i wanna binge eat The "i earned it" fallacy see also: people who go ham spending anytime they get an influx of cash. The want just gets bottled up so long.
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Kharmakazy posted:But if you are talking about bats right now it's because of either racism or some agenda you feel the need to push that you care more about than human lives, and there is no option 3. people discuss things they find interesting
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Ralph Crammed In posted:You're not insane because my husband wondered same thing today when we were on our walk with our son and I was blowing some bubbles for his toddler amusement. Also at that same time another toddler saw us outside and happily banged on the window to get our attention. My son just learned how to wave and he waved back, it was very cute. stick your kid in a VR social app I'm not even kidding this is going to be a thing within a year, child focused social vr apps, someone is gonna make a shitload of money.
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EL BROMANCE posted:They're not even good at reporting the numbers they do have. For example, the Florida ArcGIS lets you search via zip code. If you look up 33028 (Pembroke Pines) it looks like there's a massive outbreak there compared to the rest of the area. From what I was able to look up, I can't find any evidence of this being the case there... but I did find there was a mobile testing lab there for a small period of time. So all the zip data is completely wrong because they logged it as where the loving truck was set up. This might be the best location data they can report without breaking medical privacy laws
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gary oldmans diary posted:both locations are in china and are 3 blocks away from each other. agenda and racism are pretty much ruled out Nope. 100% ruled in. Case in point.
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I got an email from the NFDA asking if I wanted to volunteer to travel to covid-19 hotspots and offer my services as a mortician due to morgue and funeral home overcrowding. They’re even accepting mortuary students who haven’t finished their degrees or, obviously, sat for their National Board exam. It’s loving nuts to consider that we are in such a state of emergency that the FTC is kinda looking the other way when mortuary students still in school are probably going to be doing things that usually require having a license. I volunteered to go to Texas during Harvey, and got recalled home when Irma headed this way. Any other time I would be like hell yeah, I volunteer! But I’m immunocompromised and it’s irresponsible for me to go, I’ll probably end up adding one more to the overflow. There has already been a case of covid contracted from a cadaver, so there’s a precedent for it. This is nuts.
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Some door to door pest control salesman just knocked on the door. Are you watching the news, dude? You're going to get people killed hawking your $40/month bug spray service
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'state your business or close my cardboard box' Japan adopting.  shibuya critters fighting to decide who's gonna be the next dominant species. 
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All the people telling me to go to the hospital, I called the hospital and they told me to gently caress off so what else is there to do? Anyway I just woke up and can breathe and feel better overall so here’s hoping I don’t get another episode of that again 
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Kharmakazy posted:Nope. 100% ruled in. Case in point.
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It's important that we allow the maximum amount of time to pass before investigating why something happened That's investigation 101
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gary oldmans diary posted:like when sports teams of the same city play against each other. emotions run high The only thing running high is intellectual dishonesty. 100k dead people isn't a game, but thanks for clarifying which column you fall under.
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Mozi posted:regardless of what issues they had it's pretty stupid to think someone would walk out of a BSL-4 lab with a living infected animal, when the alternative explanation you can accept until further evidence comes to light requires no mental gymnastics whatsoever Mozi posted:regardless of what issues they had it's pretty stupid to think someone would walk out of a BSL-4 lab with a living infected animal, when the alternative explanation you can accept until further evidence comes to light requires no mental gymnastics whatsoever It would be indeed be really stupid for someone to take a few bats slated to be killed (or even their corpses that they were supposed to burn) to the nearby market for a quick buck. Fortunately stupid people are few and far in-between. Most of humanity is entirely logical and not at all shortsighted or willing to put long term caution aside for short term benefit.
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Kharmakazy posted:The only thing running high is intellectual dishonesty. 100k dead people isn't a game, but thanks for clarifying which column you fall under. whether it was one location or the other, they are both geographically and culturally in the same place so people discussing whether it was one or the other arent acting under racist pretense
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Kharmakazy posted:I have to question the motivation of anyone who keeps wanting to talk about where this came from while hundreds of thousands of people die. The chuds want to know who they can manufacture a claim of causa belli against mrfart posted:shibuya critters fighting to decide who's gonna be the next dominant species. Tokyo Jungle sequel looking good duck.exe fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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Noblesse Obliged posted:It's important that we allow the maximum amount of time to pass before investigating why something happened This isn't an investigative body, it's an internet forum. You are investigating two things, jack and poo poo. Feel free to go "investigate" the engine room of the Titanic while it's sinking, but don't delude yourself into thinking everyone can't plainly see what you are up to.
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LimburgLimbo posted:It would be indeed be really stupid for someone to take a few bats slated to be killed (or even their corpses that they were supposed to burn) to the nearby market for a quick buck. you are suggesting that someone stole bats from an infectious disease research centre to sell at a market for pocket change?
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these metaphors lmao
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The Walrus posted:you are suggesting that someone stole bats from an infectious disease research centre to sell at a market for pocket change? Tbh this isn't unbelievable based on many other stories in the china thread.
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gary oldmans diary posted:what column are you talking about? you cannot follow this conversation at all Your baseless insults aside, you definitely are and it's obvious.
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Are you paid to shill or are you a true believer?
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Mozi posted:regardless of what issues they had it's pretty stupid to think someone would walk out of a BSL-4 lab with a living infected animal, when the alternative explanation you can accept until further evidence comes to light requires no mental gymnastics whatsoever Ok, we can do this all day. How about worker at lab with bad practice gets infected by bat/pangolin cross virus breed, goes to wetmarket and boom, pandemic. However you put it there are a lot of strange coincidences here. This may be history now but history is interesting and if the world stopped because of a fuckup it is even more interesting.
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