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Kulinski pushed Mehdi Hasan’s poo poo in on that twitter thread. 
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I hadn't seen that tweet yet, god drat did he piss a lot of people off lmfao none of them have answers beyond "orange man bad" of course but still lmao, the worst thing you can do to these people is treat them exactly how they treat you
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One More Fat Nerd posted:2) Joe Biden has the massive advantage of "not being Hillary Clinton", which boosted turnout in older mainstream Dems, and by itself may be enough to propel him to victory in the general. I disagree with a large part of the sentiment behind this. I think both Biden *and* Hillary did better than any of the other non-Bernie also-rans this cycle would have done if they were running. While you're correct that Biden has a strong advantage with older voters compared with Hillary, I think both of them have an advantage over some dramatically lesser known figure like Klobuchar or Buttigieg or whatever. Basically, I think both Biden and Hillary Clinton likely did better than the vast majority of other Democratic politicians could have done, due to being some of the very few "extremely well-known" Democrats left. edit: I think the reason for this is that, because Democratic politicians don't actually run on anything substantial, they can only motivate voters through being associated with a positive time in the past. With Hillary, it made many older voters think "she'll do whatever Bill did to make the 90's good." With Biden, they think "I liked Obama, he'll be like Obama." None of the other plausible Democratic candidates have that, because they don't actually have anything in their platforms worth voting for (as opposed to Bernie or other left-wing candidates, who will always have some strong base of support from here on out). Thompsons posted:I mean they really get snotty when people ask them if they're planning on canvassing precisely because they know as well as we do that they're not going to do it Well, actually participating in the campaigning is gauche, especially when they know that all the poor people and minorities secretly agree with them and will do that for them. King of Solomon posted:Sad, but not unexpected. Bernie is too good of a person. Nothing good about that; it's confusing "good" and "nice." Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Apr 14, 2020 |
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olives black posted:subscribed Holy gently caress this guy is on fire https://twitter.com/papichulomin/status/1250158149824282627?s=21
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Nice try, but this is the correct answer https://twitter.com/SAVoltolin/status/1249872815299399686
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Rastor posted:Nice try, but this is the correct answer if you're polling at and/or receiving 20% of the vote why wouldn't you make a play to replace the democrats rather than adopt fusionism
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Rastor posted:Nice try, but this is the correct answer sounds like incrementalism to me
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Raskolnikov38 posted:if you're polling at and/or receiving 20% of the vote why wouldn't you make a play to replace the democrats rather than adopt fusionism I'm not spending any more time on electoralism outside of casting a ballot but yeah, I think Hawkins has my vote
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Raskolnikov38 posted:if you're polling at and/or receiving 20% of the vote why wouldn't you make a play to replace the democrats rather than adopt fusionism  (but seriously though)
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i am well aware of what bernie sanders was. he was a rallying point for the american left after literally a century in the weeds, he was by far the most successful socialist politician in American history, he was never radical enough but that is probably why he was able to bridge this gap. now that hes done there is 0 point in being a dumb bitch and immediately making GBS threads on his legacy, we need to use it as a tool. he will always be remembered by most Americans as a good man with a good vision, even if it wasnt enough to actually win the presidency, and we need to use that not spurn it. Not empty quoting
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VP Doctor Sister-Wife.
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leftist populism is a myth
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remember: https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/status/1237813280435064832 also:
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Fleetwood posted:leftist populism is a myth definitely not
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i am well aware of what bernie sanders was. he was a rallying point for the american left after literally a century in the weeds, he was by far the most successful socialist politician in American history, he was never radical enough but that is probably why he was able to bridge this gap. now that hes done there is 0 point in being a dumb bitch and immediately making GBS threads on his legacy, we need to use it as a tool. he will always be remembered by most Americans as a good man with a good vision, even if it wasnt enough to actually win the presidency, and we need to use that not spurn it. yeah but in the meantime Bernie really needs to be told to gently caress off
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Raskolnikov38 posted:if you're polling at and/or receiving 20% of the vote why wouldn't you make a play to replace the democrats rather than adopt fusionism On an unrelated note, I am resurrecting the Bull Moose Party
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loving stoked to get out this November and possibly catch a deadly virus in order to vote for a slightly less repugnant oligarch rapist.
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Happy to never have to worry about people telling me I should vote Bernie again
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Chris James 2 posted:Happy to never have to worry about people telling me I should vote Bernie again eh, plausible deniability isn't that worrisome, but he did completely gently caress up the zephyr teachout thing
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Rastor posted:Nice try, but this is the correct answer i remember when they said this about ralph nader lmao
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ArmZ posted:i remember when they said this about ralph nader lmao they were right. not enough people voted for nader
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:definitely not I used to think so too, but I've changed my mind recently. The political writers who try to define populism always do so from a centrist or right-wing perspective, so they lump progressives in with the right-wing nationalists who practise actual populism, like with horseshoe theory. Yanis Varoufakis talks about it a bit quote:When I scored the largest parliamentary majority in Greece’s general election two years ago, I too was portrayed as a populist. For the establishment, anyone who does well electorally by challenging its favourite sons and daughters is dismissed as a populist. But this lets populists off too lightly. A populist promises all things to all people, while preying on their superstitions and fears. In contrast, when I ran for parliament I quoted Winston Churchill in promising “blood, sweat and tears” as the price of our liberation from debt bondage and from Greece’s oligarchy. In financial terms, I did not promise a single euro to anyone making more than €700 monthly. The election outcome proved that anti-establishment politicians can gain popularity by eschewing populism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38tZhPying&t=2623s this clip relates why the right is able to define or manipulate how progressive's project their strength https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H38tZhPying&t=910s
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In the end, did Bloomberg's 8 billion dollars buy him anything at all? I haven't heard anything about him in months. Or maybe three days or something. I don't even know anymore, times all hosed up.
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Tetracube posted:cspam is a place where we all talked about how voting sucks and doesn't work and then as soon as we had someone to vote for we forgot that entirely. and then it didn't work. Rip In Piss Permabanned poster Tetracube
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One More Fat Nerd posted:I think going hard negative on Biden would have ended up being taken as going negative on Obama by proxy. While C-Spammers would have loved that, its probably the worst move you could make in a Dem primary. Plenty of Bernie voters still have warm feelings for Obama. Nah the only possible winning move was to have a warchest on hand to launch the campaign with an ad blitz and absolutely loving nuke Obama into oblivion. Clips of Obama claiming to be a republican, trying to gut social security, bailing out the banks, perpetuating the foreverwar, sending his daughter to work for weinstein, loving off after the election to hang out on Billionaire Island, and cap it off with "Barack Obama was so cynical that he chose a guy who said racist things about him to be his VP in a false show of magnanimity and didn't even care that he was probably a sex pest." Just day after day of "Trump is Obama's fault, he hosed up and that's what allowed this to happen, WE. WON'T. >:[" So basically we needed to transplant C-spam directly into Bernie's old noggin to win, hopefully it will be easier in 4 years when everything is even more hosed up.
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Samurai Sanders posted:In the end, did Bloomberg's 8 billion dollars buy him anything at all? I haven't heard anything about him in months. Or maybe three days or something. I don't even know anymore, times all hosed up. The campaign itself was a big wet fart but Bloomberg is in the process of buying the democratic party as an institution so it's not the last we'll hear of him
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cool dance moves posted:The campaign itself was a big wet fart but Bloomberg is in the process of buying the democratic party as an institution so it's not the last we'll hear of him A Republican buying the Democrats? Why I never
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super sweet best pal posted:Never voting Democrat again. But Biden wants to Make Democrats Great Again.
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