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A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

The Dark Project posted:

Nah, not going to happen.

And lol if you think that Republican's wouldn't take the opportunity of a destroyed Democratic Party to just put the boot heel on your neck for eternity. No progressive party, or anything not resembling total Conservative Authoritarianism would be allowed to grow into a fully fledged and viable party.

This is the same kind of magical thinking which presupposes that a reign of terror akin to those in the French Revolution would ultimately end up benefiting society, which completely ignores just how homicidal a large proportion of America is towards non-whites and minority groups, and would love any opportunity to be able to kill such people with impunity.

lol

The Democratic Party fundamentally cares for nothing other than the empowerment of monopolized capital at the expense of human beings and even the very air we loving breathe just like their republican counterparts.

The Democratic Party needs to fold forever.

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Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Endorph posted:

If you have to clarify statements like that and read between the lines, maybe sanders made his point very badly at a critical time

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
And if the Dems somehow win in November, then the victims in the concentration camps/private prisons (the same camps Obama/Biden opened) will simply be ignored the same way Tara Reade has been - they’re only using those talking points to get you to show up, nothing less.

FallenGod
May 23, 2002

Unite, Afro Warriors!

The DNC is relying on pure "gently caress Trump" energy on this one and is convinced anyone will stumble across the finish line*. Acknowledging this, does anyone expect Biden to move a single iota to the left?

*in the charitable interpretation that they are overly concerned with winning

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Stereotype posted:

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.
The issue is that this shaming strategy is provably not working and 'irresponsible' is gonna be interpreted by a lot of people as feeding into it even if his angle is different from hillary truthers on twitter or whatever.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

FallenGod posted:

The DNC is relying on pure "gently caress Trump" energy on this one and is convinced anyone will stumble across the finish line*. Acknowledging this, does anyone expect Biden to move a single iota to the left?

*in the charitable interpretation that they are overly concerned with winning

Why move to the left when his potential voters are so far to the right

Rockit
Feb 2, 2017

https://twitter.com/lsarsour/status/1250262605354188801
One good point in a huge mountain of trash.
Dunk on biden with that good point then boo this man and check out his Challenger.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

The Dark Project posted:

This is the same kind of magical thinking which presupposes that a reign of terror akin to those in the French Revolution would ultimately end up benefiting society, which completely ignores just how homicidal a large proportion of America is towards non-whites and minority groups, and would love any opportunity to be able to kill such people with impunity.
I'm getting weary of reminding people that Republicans are old fat lazy scared pieces of poo poo and not the minutemen they imagine themselves to be.

If the Democratic Party were the thing restraining the chud army we would already be in the civil war they fantasize about.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Quick give biden some more meth and throw him infront of the cameras so everyone sees he's Awake and Alert

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Nothing. Not our problem, nothing we can do.

And the Biden Bros are too busy being extremely on Twitter to get out the vote.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Try phonebanking and knocking on doors

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Venomous posted:

Try phonebanking and knocking on doors

i dunno he managed to beat bernie without doing any of that. Are you sure it's neccessary?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Can you make yourself feel enthusiasm for Biden? I myself cannot. It’s a real Pascal’s wager situation.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Stereotype posted:

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.

He's wrong.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Democrats hate him but the moderate republicans love him so its fine.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Stairmaster posted:

i dunno he managed to beat bernie without doing any of that. Are you sure it's neccessary?

Those things absolutely worked, up until alot of those people got scared and voted for biden when they got to the polls. I doubt alot of those people would've even bothered voting at all if the Bernie people didn't talk to them.

Stereotype posted:

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.

Bernie is free to do option one if he wants, but I doubt he expects his supporters to do so as well. Especially if joe keeps releasing insulting bullshit and saying its progressive.

ColonelMuttonchops fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Apr 15, 2020

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine

Al-Saqr posted:

Loooooollll please ignore all the appointments biden and Obama had the last time the country faced disaster

As opposed to say, Barr, Pruitt or DeVos, who have been stellar.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Stereotype posted:

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.

badgering won't do jack poo poo. The only way we have leverage now is if we shoot the hostage like we threatened. It's "Or bust" time.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Stairmaster posted:

i dunno he managed to beat bernie without doing any of that. Are you sure it's neccessary?

To get Democratic loyalist Boomers out? No, but that alone will get him a sub-2016 EV total.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
All the loyal Dem boomers are dead from the Covid they got from going out to vote for Biden.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Stairmaster posted:

badgering won't do jack poo poo. The only way we have leverage now is if we shoot the hostage like we threatened. It's "Or bust" time.
The thing is, this isn't some plan for online leftists to execute, it's just what a lot of Bernie voters are going to do by default.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

littleorv posted:

Senator Cucknard Sanders

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

This is a You problem, not a Me problem

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

Al-Saqr posted:

This is a You problem, not a Me problem

Stairmaster is being sarcastic

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

I do not believe that stairmaster is saying that in a pro-Biden voice

E: Thanks Julias

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born.

April: Bernie is cancelled.

:lol: God drat, does life happen fast online.

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

It's almost like people have reactions when an action happens

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Craptacular! posted:

February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born.

April: Bernie is cancelled.

:lol: God drat, does life happen fast online.

Sanders isn't "cancelled", whatever that means, but acknowledging that he is/was the leader of the progressive movement and is also making some pretty cowardly and self-interested choices right now are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, the former might just be the reason why people are so critical of and/or disappointed by the latter. Imagine that!

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





socialism generally abhors a cult of personality

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Craptacular! posted:

February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born.

April: Bernie is cancelled.

:lol: God drat, does life happen fast online.

Should've wished on that monkey paw for Bernie cultists instead.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Craptacular! posted:

February: Fact is, Bernie has consistently supported preogressive ideas and fought for oppressed people’s since before I was born.

April: Bernie is cancelled.

:lol: God drat, does life happen fast online.

this is what it is like to believe a thing to be true.

I understand the feeling may be a new one

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Stereotype posted:

you actually just have to read the statement because it is very clear. The two options are: 1) continue being involved and badger Biden into being more progressive or 2) just sit at home and do nothing and laugh when Trump wins. Bernie thinks option 1 is better.

No you force Joe to come to you and promise you concessions, and publicly state those concessions. Bernie hasn't done any of that, hes a cuck

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Mat Cauthon posted:

Sanders isn't "cancelled", whatever that means, but acknowledging that he is/was the leader of the progressive movement and is also making some pretty cowardly and self-interested choices right now are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, the former might just be the reason why people are so critical of and/or disappointed by the latter. Imagine that!

I just find it odd that Bernie is suddenly over because he doesn't reach election concensus with Briahna Joy Gray, Jill Stein voter. Like any ally, he will support her when their interests are aligned.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

The fact that Bernie is going to take my money and give it to a rapist is infuriating

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Terror Sweat posted:

The fact that Bernie is going to take my money and give it to a rapist is infuriating

Wait what?

Can we request refunds?

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Terror Sweat posted:

The fact that Bernie is going to take my money and give it to a rapist is infuriating

I thought he was going to give it to downballot races. This was one of the things that he was attacked with last time. It would be much more beneficial to OurRev etc if he did.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Craptacular! posted:

I just find it odd that Bernie is suddenly over because he doesn't reach election concensus with Briahna Joy Gray, Jill Stein voter. Like any ally, he will support her when their interests are aligned.

Yep, bernies over, nobody cares about him anymore, he gave up and conceded like a coward he’ll be dead in 5 years tops and since he’s failed at being the vehicle for left victory he’s no longer needed. also Briahnna Joy grey voting for Jill Stein is cool and good and she’s more on our side than Bernie was willing to be when push comes to shove.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Craptacular! posted:

I just find it odd that Bernie is suddenly over because he doesn't reach election concensus with Briahna Joy Gray, Jill Stein voter.

I love that you think we're supposed to see the bolded part as a bad thing.

I'm not as outraged by this as some folks here, but you should maybe try to empathize with them about why they're so disappointed? Just an idea.

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is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Stairmaster posted:



This is a huge loving problem. What are we going to do about this?

Hmmm maybe he can engage with the youths by having them describe how their permanent financial ruin makes them feel in 3 emojis or less.

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