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thiswayliesmadness posted:Was it RA2 or TS that had the skirmish AI going nuts with garrisoning buildings? All I remember is the frustration of trying to level a city block full of walled in troops. e: Sorry. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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Good to know that [blank] is a recurring mechanic in future games I haven't played yet.
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Apr 12, 2020 22:44
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Seriously ya'll. Shut the gently caress up about future games. I'm gonna start asking for probates.
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Probably one of my favorite things about Red Alert 2 is how the music is just absofuckinglutely on point from the get-go - it's very easy to tell that Frank had almost a decade of constantly producing music for Westwood under his belt at that point. Also, did you know that there's an edition of the game with this inside-cover:  (Source) EDIT: Also, I was just reminded that the completely unpatched version of the game has an easter-egg regarding this, but I'm not sure if it's spoilers or not so I won't post it. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 12, 2020 |
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Apr 12, 2020 23:36
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I had that original box. I wish I still did but it got wrecked in a move. Thefront box was censored as well, as Jobbo has mentioned.  The expansion box was also apparently similarly censored before release with only a few copies of the original sneaking out into the wild.
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Apr 13, 2020 02:09
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I had this rerelease: From looking around it must have come out around 2006 and there's the original box art fully intact.
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Apr 13, 2020 03:02
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I actually couldn't get a copy of the game on my birthday like I wanted because they pulled the game from the shelves to re-issue it with the new box art. Had to wait a few weeks to get it.
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Allied 04: Operation: Last Chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX6b0MjKrBA Operation: Last Chance  With the Psychic Beacon destroyed and the President safe at an undisclosed location, top military brass for the US forces have relocated themselves to Canada to lessen the possibility of another subversion attempt by the Reds. To make matters worse, the Soviets have managed to force their way up to Illinois from Louisiana. Thankfully, Canada is on our side or else the United States of America would be split in two! They've also managed to take Virginia and Nevada. If we don't get our act together, and soon, we may not have the strength to repel them after all is said and done.   Chicago, the heart of industry in America! (Maybe)  Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Objective: Destroy the Psychic Amplifier before it can be activated! Briefing: Soviet forces continue to rampage across America. Our agents have discovered a large Psychic Amplifier in Chicago. If activated, this device will allow the Soviets to mind control all of North America. Author's note: Another introduction level, this time showing off naval units and general gameplay for this returning aspect of C&C combat.   Name: Ben Carville Aliases: General Thorn Affiliation: Allies Occupation: Leading General of the US Forces. Voiced/Played by: Barry Corbin Top military official for the United States of America's armed forces. Reports directly to the president. Enjoys antagonizing Tanya. Was temporarily subverted by the Soviet Union due to mind control weapons.  Name: Lt. Eva Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: Tactical and Communications officer for the Commander Voiced/Played by: Athena Massey Lt. Eva is the Commander's tactics and communications officer, providing a vital supporting role in the Commander's control of his forces, and the battlefield.   Amphibious Transport RANGE: N/A ARMOR: Light WEAPON: None COST: 900 The Allied Amphibious Transport is used to transport units from place to place. While not invisible to radar like the [REDACTED], the hovercraft is capable of carrying vehicles as well as infantry. It can cross both land and water, allowing for amphibious assaults of enemy positions. This vehicle has no armament. Author's Note: Similar to the amphibious transport from Tiberian Sun, with the added bonus of more slots and the ability to transport vehicles.  Destroyer RANGE: Medium ARMOR: Heavy WEAPON: 155mm Cannon (and Anti-Submarine Aircraft) COST: 1000 The basic Allied naval unit, the Destroyer is designed to automatically defend against submerged enemy units like submarines. The Destroyer can also be used to bombard shorelines and enemy installations, allowing for easier amphibious invasions. Author's Note: Your basic naval unit, suited to attack all forms of enemy naval units. The Osprey aircraft can attack submerged units, and are replaced automatically for free so don't be afraid to use them.  Naval Shipyard ARMOR: Concrete COST: 1000 POWER USAGE: 25 PURPOSE: Builds Ships Your navy will play an important role both in protecting your base and in attacking the enemy position. All of your naval units, including [REDACTED], are created at your Naval Yard. This structure must be placed entirely in water. Damaged ships can be returned to the Naval Yard to be repaired. Author's Note: Required to build naval units, they also serve as the repair point for them. Unlocks ships. Aftermath: Faster than Par Time: "The tragic loss of Chicago, however devastating, doesn't compare to the loss of our whole nation. Your quick destruction of the Psychic Amplifier meant that the Soviets never had time to fully test its power." Slower than Par Time: "The Psychic Amplifier was destroyed, but not before the Soviets gained valuable test data about it's effects. In spite of the tragic loss of Chicago, however, you've saved our entire nation from falling under the influence of the Soviets' most powerful psychic weapon."
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Apr 16, 2020 03:44
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Tech buildings started healing automatically in the expansion. That weird building you hovered over is the Chicago Water Tower 
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That's one hell of a beard on our Russian friend.
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The Destroyer has always been the ugliest unit to me. The yellow plane and round turret makes it look like a toy!
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Dabir posted:That's one hell of a beard on our Russian friend. And one heck of a temper too, dang. Forgot that this mission was so early in the campaign, but it is a decent intro to naval combat, although most of the action takes place on land. The Soviet base being so close by does spice things up, and for once they actually have a decent amount of anti-air, although as shown, the Soviet defense of their Power Plants is lacking and Rocketeers once again rule this map. The mission itself probably could have had more on the righthand side though, most of it is pretty empty outside of the two tech buildings, although I do like how the main Soviet base is pretty much just plopped right in the middle of the city though.
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ThingOne posted:Tech buildings started healing automatically in the expansion. There's also a version of the Willis tower in the upper left of the map. Probably set up so you can't see the whole building and therefore worry about the weird copyright on it.
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Apr 16, 2020 08:41
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THE BAR posted:The Destroyer has always been the ugliest unit to me. The yellow plane and round turret makes it look like a toy!
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Apr 16, 2020 09:11
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Since it's right next to the water, pretty sure you'd be able to beat the mission quickly by sending your initial set of destroyers up to destroy the Psychic tower.
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Yes that works. Not sure on the amount of submarines on hard but on normal and easy you can just sail up the channel ignoring all defenses and blow it up.
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Hm. Dunno if it's a modern sourceport thing, but I recall the missile actually launching, with nuclear attack sirens and everything before it cuts to the FMV.
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I know someone pointed it out and I think I recorded the audio before it but Chrono Miners indeed carry half as much as the Soviet War Miner (500 vs 1000) [Doubled if gems]
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Loxbourne posted:Hm. Dunno if it's a modern sourceport thing, but I recall the missile actually launching, with nuclear attack sirens and everything before it cuts to the FMV. Yeah I remember that too. Doubtful its a sourceport thing, however, because the only modification I have is some text file stuff to allow higher resolution and/or changing the video wrapper to let me record stuff. Red Alert 2 was never made free by EA, so CCNet doesn't have a sourceport like previous games, just a new multiplayer client/server thing.
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how are you getting this game to run stably? my origin version has a bad habit of shutting down randomly
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V. Illych L. posted:how are you getting this game to run stably? my origin version has a bad habit of shutting down randomly If I remember correctly it was either through: http://www.tntts.com/2017/11/install-and-run-command-conquer-red_7.html or https://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/182360-cc-red-alert-2-windows-8-windows-10-fix/ Not 100% sure which I went through specifically as its been like 2 months now, or the pandemic has wiped my sense of time. I just know that you have to change the compatibility, use a new wrapper, and change the .ini settings for your desired resolution. Works flawlessly on my Windows 10 machine so far, haven't tried the expansion.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Yeah I remember that too. Doubtful its a sourceport thing, however, because the only modification I have is some text file stuff to allow higher resolution and/or changing the video wrapper to let me record stuff. Red Alert 2 was never made free by EA, so CCNet doesn't have a sourceport like previous games, just a new multiplayer client/server thing. I just completed both campaigns, and it did the same thing as in your playthrough. Mine were just the CDs and 1.006 patch. E: I did get the klaxons, though. Weird.
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Why would the missile need to launch? It's already in the middle of Chicago, what would going into the air do for it?
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Dabir posted:Why would the missile need to launch? It's already in the middle of Chicago, what would going into the air do for it? Well, the nuke in the video appears to be above ground, and the explosive profile would change if it was underground.
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Apr 17, 2020 14:00
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It is above ground, it came out of its silo.
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Dabir posted:It is above ground, it came out of its silo. That's my point as to why it would launch into the air though. Air blasts are more effective.
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From what I understand the warheads usually don't arm that fast. Gotta go way up first. But then again it's all fantasy.
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Really like how the mission-end briefing is kinda just like "Man chicago got nuked that really sucks but hey I guess it's better than all of America being mind-controlled!"
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chocolateTHUNDER posted:Really like how the mission-end briefing is kinda just like "Man chicago got nuked that really sucks but hey I guess it's better than all of America being mind-controlled!" Better radioactive ash then RED.
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Allied 05: Operation: Dark Night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkj9ISWNh0Y Operation: Dark Night Now that the situation has stabilized itself somewhat in the continental United States, its time to send out calls for help, especially for our old allies in Europe. Unfortunately for us, the Soviets have a number of forward nuclear silos that are threatening to attack any targets of opportunity from Spain to Germany! If we are ever to balance the scales of power, we will need to send in a team of infiltrators to knock out those nuclear weapons for good.  In the cutscene and loading screen, the location appears to be given somewhere on the Polish/Belorussian border, and Poland already being Allied! Location:Polish/Belorussian Border. Objective: Neutralize the Soviet nuclear missiles in the area. Briefing: European forces still refuse to fight with us, fearing a Soviet nuclear counterattack. We have discovered the location of their medium-range missiles in Poland. Special agent Tanya has secretly crossed the Polish border. You will direct her to destroy the Soviet Nuclear Missiles. Author's note: The first baseless mission? Woah. A few one, with some goodies strewn about. If you ever get the tank, you can bypass the 2nd base by using the tank to just... destroy the walls. Name: Lt. Eva Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: Tactical and Communications officer for the Commander Voiced/Played by: Athena Massey Lt. Eva is the Commander's tactics and communications officer, providing a vital supporting role in the Commander's control of his forces, and the battlefield.  Name: Unknown Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: Prime Minister of England Voiced/Played by: Kerry Michaels The Prime Minister of England. The Margaret Thatcher expy of this game.  Name: Unknown Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: General of the French Armed Forces Voiced/Played by: Frank Bruynbroek Named Lyon in the manual, this General is a clear parody of De Gaulle.  Name: Unknown Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: Chancellor of Germany. Voiced/Played by: Stuart Nesbit The Chancellor of Germany, he looks like Ludwig Erhard, but as far as I know he's based on a different Chancellor.  Name: President Dugan Aliases: None Affiliation: Allies Occupation: President of the United States of America Voiced/Played by: Ray Wise President of the United States of America. Helped install Premier Romanov in Soviet Russia. Defected to the Reds. Rehabilitated after the destruction of the Psychic Beacon in Washington D.C.  Name: Tanya Aliases: Widowmaker Affiliation: Hired Gun Occupation: Special Agent / International Gun For Hire Voiced/Played by: Kari Wuhrer Agent Tanya is a renowned mercenary who plays by her own rules. It has been suggested that the name "Tanya" may be a codename, similar to Agent 007. Responded to the crisis and helped recapture the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, after having dealt with the Soviet invasion in New York. Sent to Poland to destroy the forward Soviet nukes used to deter European involvement in the ongoing Third World War.  Spy RANGE: N/A ARMOR: Flak WEAPON: None COST: 1000 The Spy is a stealth unit used by the Allied forces to gain an advantage over their foes. Rather than attacking enemy units, the Spy targets an enemy and changes his appearance to that of the enemy unit. This allows him to sneak past enemies and into enemy structures, providing substantial benefits. The Spy’s function inside the enemy structure depends on which building he enters. Attack Dogs are never fooled by the Spy’s disguise, so watch out for them. Author's Note: An interesting update to the spy, with a new method of displaying how the spy disguises himself in accordance to the increased number of infantry units available. Aftermath: Faster than Par Time: "Soviet commanders are still analyzing your attack, trying to discover the secrets of your advanced covert strategies." Slower than Par Time: "The missiles have been destroyed. Other Soviet missiles have been moved deep inside the USSR."
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Jobbo_Fett posted:In the cutscene and loading screen, the location appears to be given somewhere on the Polish/Belorussian border, and Poland already being Allied! And yet, the border crossing at the start of the actual mission has German and Soviet flags. Go figure.
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Oh, this is the one with Tanya and the Spies isn't it? gently caress yes, I love this mission.
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I never did this mission properly. I captured the first base and rhino swarmed the rest.
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If you use any unit but Tanya in this mission you are a coward
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Faster than Par Time: "Soviet commanders are still analyzing your attack, trying to discover the secrets of your advanced covert strategies." Mooo
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I've never even attempted going outside of the obvious route. Didn't think you would find all of this stuff, hiding just a couple of steps away. 
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How did the Soviets move their army to North America with no one suspecting a thing, you ask? Psychic mind control, same as with every other logical objection to the game's events so far.
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Cythereal posted:How did the Soviets move their army to North America with no one suspecting a thing, you ask? Fair point. Also, President Dugan is pretty dumb.
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You take back what you said about Ray Wise dammit! 
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Mordja posted:You take back what you said about Ray Wise dammit! I never said anything bad about Ray Wise! 
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