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Cerebral Bore posted:How the gently caress do you even furlough an independent contractor? 
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Chris James 2 posted:People in the last 5 years I can think of that TNA used better than WWE (Sting, Joe and Christian go without saying, but they're lifetime achievements here): WWE brought the Dudley Boyz back for a forgettable nostalgia run and never took advantage of Bully Ray's promo skills.
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ThePariah posted:WWE brought the Dudley Boyz back for a forgettable nostalgia run and never took advantage of Bully Ray's promo skills. They never took advantage of his promo skills from ECW the first time around either.
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Apr 16, 2020 19:38
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Dacap posted:WWE labels it’s talent whatever designation benefits WWE the most, switching it situationally. Especially funny/sad given the governor's memo is worded such that wrestlers shouldn't be able to perform because they're not employees
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Apr 16, 2020 19:55
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Cerebral Bore posted:How the gently caress do you even furlough an independent contractor? I work in IT for a billion dollar retailer and we "furloughed" some of our support contractors by cutting their hours in half. Thankfully independent contractors can receive covid bucks if they're furloughed but that wouldn't normally be the case. This is why contractors are normally terminated as opposed to furloughed. Furloughing a contractor is virtually the same for them as being terminated under non-covid times. There is definitely a question of whether or not WWE can legally furlough their independent contractors, but someone would have to challenge them on it.
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Professional wrestlers are insane workaholics with no concern for their own well-being. They are a monstrous oligarch's dream workforce.
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Apr 16, 2020 21:43
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They asked Mike Chioda "do you wanna quit?" and he said yes.
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Apr 16, 2020 22:10
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I think “on-air talent” means announcers and interviewers, who are probably employees given that Mox gets his health insurance via Renee’s WWE gig.
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Dacap posted:WWE labels it’s talent whatever designation benefits WWE the most, switching it situationally. Schrodinger's 1099
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Apr 17, 2020 00:53
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Cerebral Bore posted:How the gently caress do you even furlough an independent contractor? Refuse to pay their downside guarantee and then tell them to take it to court if they have a problem and laugh evilly as you walk away?
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Apr 17, 2020 01:05
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Has anyone ever seen a WWE Contract? Like the actual one? I assume they're a myth and it's all Vince handshake deals maybe the Brock court docs?
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:I think “on-air talent” means announcers and interviewers, who are probably employees given that Mox gets his health insurance via Renee’s WWE gig. Yes, announcers and interviewers are employees and they have so many that they can probably furlough a bunch without anyone realizing it!
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J-Ro posted:Awesome Kong, Gail Kim, Mickie James & Victoria could probably make that list, too. Chris Harris wasn't a joke before he became Braden Walker.
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Apr 17, 2020 03:54
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Hirez posted:Has anyone ever seen a WWE Contract? Like the actual one? I assume they're a myth and it's all Vince handshake deals Edit: nvm, lets say they dont exist lol
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now I'm picturing WWE contracts are signed where you don't get a copy, have to sign on site in front of a referee; and all contracts are held in fortress like Titan Tower dangling in a MITB briefcase behind Vince's desk and T-Rex skull
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Apr 17, 2020 05:20
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Its like college diplomas. WWE keeps the main copy but they give you one of those wallet sized ones.
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Apr 17, 2020 05:24
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and it just says your shoot name, independent contractor, and a checkmark box pre-checked and now has Essential Employee scribbled on
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Apr 17, 2020 05:32
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Its got other pages but its laminated and if you tamper with it you're in trouble.
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Hirez posted:Has anyone ever seen a WWE Contract? Like the actual one? I assume they're a myth and it's all Vince handshake deals We have seen several talent contracts, Brock, Shane, HHH and a few others.
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Apr 17, 2020 06:13
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Hirez posted:Has anyone ever seen a WWE Contract? Like the actual one? I assume they're a myth and it's all Vince handshake deals Jim Cornette has seen hundreds of them and they had a Lovecraftian effect on him. Not in terms of having his mind blown by unfathomable abominations beyond human ken, just that he's a huge loving racist piece of poo poo.
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Jerusalem posted:Jim Cornette has seen hundreds of them and they had a Lovecraftian effect on him. Not in terms of having his mind blown by unfathomable abominations beyond human ken, just that he's a huge loving racist piece of poo poo. The Slur Out Of Space
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Apr 17, 2020 09:07
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Kendo Kashin did an interview with Tokyo Sports saying he can't come back to Japan and he doesn't know where he should be now that he's lost his job. He also thinks he was fired because he did an interview last week saying how bad it was in Florida with the coronavirus but I'm not sure if anyone in WWE is reading Tokyo Sports and reporting to Vince.
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Apr 17, 2020 09:10
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Kendo Kashin did an interview with Tokyo Sports saying he can't come back to Japan and he doesn't know where he should be now that he's lost his job. He also thinks he was fired because he did an interview last week saying how bad it was in Florida with the coronavirus but I'm not sure if anyone in WWE is reading Tokyo Sports and reporting to Vince. This new interview, (not the one that supposedly got him fired), can't help WWE's plans to open NXT Japan. Coz it says that WWE fired a Japanese bloke, thus having him lose his residence permit/work visa at a time when he is not allowed to return home, and has nowhere else to go. Which will not resonate well with Japanese fans, or indeed the Japanese wrestlers they would want to hire.
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Apr 17, 2020 09:20
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I think any plans for international expansion has probably been kicked into the long grass right now anyway to be honest.
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Apr 17, 2020 09:44
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BrigadierSensible posted:This new interview, (not the one that supposedly got him fired), can't help WWE's plans to open NXT Japan. And not just "a Japanese bloke" but a very well regarded wrestler and trainer who was the Junior Ace of All Japan and held AJPW and NJPW titles.
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Apr 17, 2020 09:50
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You know, I was thinking about how all this talent got cut in order to save a few bucks, and then you look at the senior players in the Australian national rugby union team like Michael Hooper and Kurtley Beale, whom, knowing that the ARU had taken a massive financial hit even before the Covid-19 restrictions kicked in, volunteered during pay negotiations to take a cut at least 65% of their salary so that the players on the other end of the scale of professional rugby, if they were to be hit financially, would have the blow considerably softened. I wonder how much of a paycut the McMahons have taken during all this.
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Edward Mass posted:Chris Harris wasn't a joke before he became Braden Walker. Yeah, but who's fault is that, really?
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Apr 17, 2020 14:14
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Cerebral Bore posted:How the gently caress do you even furlough an independent contractor? You get an email that says "we'll call you". I'm sorry for Gallows and Anderson if they wanted to stay, but AJ Styles being sad fuels my heart. Dude's got great talent but he's such an rear end.
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Apr 17, 2020 14:37
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Blaming yourself for their fate instead of the awful company that caused it at the worst of times is definitely a normal thing to do.
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It makes me wonder if there was any talent that WAS saved by an upper-card guy advocating for them.
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flashy_mcflash posted:It makes me wonder if there was any talent that WAS saved by an upper-card guy advocating for them.  nobody there cares enough to put themselves at risk for someone else, it's more likely people were saved by pulling a JTG and just not answering the phoneWhich didn't work for the furloughed people who were informed via text
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Chris James 2 posted:
I was thinking someone like Bryan sticking his ruined neck out for Gulak or something.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I was thinking someone like Bryan sticking his ruined neck out for Gulak or something. I actually had a similar thought thinking that IRS may have taken the furlough to save Bo Dallas's job
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Apr 17, 2020 15:19
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Hirez posted:Has anyone ever seen a WWE Contract? Like the actual one? I assume they're a myth and it's all Vince handshake deals The most recent one we have is Stephanie's from 2013, but going from how her subsequent contract amendments have been written up (pretty much just changing term length and her downside guarantee), it seems like the contracts haven't really been changing in the interim.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:You get an email that says "we'll call you". Not really seen much of Styles outside a ring. Why is he an rear end in a top hat? I presume he's a republican and has expressed flat Earth views in the past.
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CyberPingu posted:I presume he's a republican and has expressed flat Earth views in the past. Spot on, plus also just search for AJ Styles and "The GAY Community?!" if you need further info.
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I mean given his tone, it was something he had literally never heard of and he was apparently picturing a prancing hippie commune of people buttfucking in the park.
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