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drat, someone else saw that movie?
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 19:55 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 10:22 |
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The statements of "It's just a 2-3% fatality rate" always just. blow my mind. In our overcrowded schools (just as an easily-digested example) that's already one kid per three classrooms. An entire section of a 10000-seat stadium. Where the gently caress did we go so wrong.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 20:24 |
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Zamujasa posted:The statements of "It's just a 2-3% fatality rate" always just. blow my mind. I think it comes from two different things: 1. We are desensitized to death as a society. 2. I don't think people understand how many people 2-3% of the population is. If they used a "real" number, 6-9 million people, it might be different.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 20:28 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:drat, someone else saw that movie?
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 20:47 |
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Zamujasa posted:Where the gently caress did we go so wrong. Money. Temporarily distressed millionaires. You must become rich to shove it in the face of your neighbor. NUMBER GO UP! Anyways, https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1251235222756175873 "resupply effort"
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 20:50 |
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COD, coronavirus onboard delivery
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 21:02 |
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US Berder Patrol posted:COD, coronavirus onboard delivery
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 21:06 |
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ASAPI posted:I think it comes from two different things: Or if they used a "real" number like 2-3% decline in the DJIA.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 21:12 |
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ASAPI posted:I think it comes from two different things: The general defense is that they meant a 2-3% increase in total mortality, not 2-3% of schoolchildren dead. So still 700-1000 extra deaths these ghouls are calling for, with plenty of room to go up.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 21:14 |
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1250986608842674177?s=20 Always twirling, twirling, twirling towards greatness!
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:11 |
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That's way cooler than the idiots gathering in crowds on the bridge in front of some London hospital to Clap for Carers.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:23 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:Oh there's a rudder alright. It's stuck hard to starboard hard starboard eh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfC2lidXiMY
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:29 |
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Downtown Denver residents have been shrieking out of their windows every evening "in support" and making life hell for the medical personnel on night shifts lmao
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:30 |
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shame on an IGA posted:hard starboard eh That’s hard to port
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:31 |
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poo poo in Iran is so nuts that they are using disinfectant trucks instead of tanks and makeshift hospital beds on trucks instead of surface-to-air missiles for their military parades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltG3zYZmXnQ
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 22:35 |
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Would a job with the national institute for Occupational Safety be a poor choice? I have a feeling like they'd already be cut to the bone.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 23:04 |
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Fallom posted:Downtown Denver residents have been shrieking out of their windows every evening "in support" and making life hell for the medical personnel on night shifts lmao people in my neighborhood were howling every night at 8 and I was howling with laughter when my roomie told me it was to support healthcare workers
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 23:27 |
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People in Vancouver are doing it every 7PM and people have graduated from yelling and hitting pots and pans to using airhorns and setting off firecrackers. The closest hospital to me is over 3km away and behind a hill.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 23:32 |
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golden bubble posted:poo poo in Iran is so nuts that they are using disinfectant trucks instead of tanks and makeshift hospital beds on trucks instead of surface-to-air missiles for their military parades. Wouldn't be an Iranian parade without the Death to Israel/United States float.
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# ? Apr 17, 2020 23:35 |
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https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1251264181397053444?s=19
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 00:17 |
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 00:39 |
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nazi scum follow your leader
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:07 |
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Uh. Ya I think I'm done reading news for a while.quote:As Hannity, arguably Trump's top supporter on cable television, discussed how to end the shutdown and get Americans back to work, Oz offered up an idea. ... quote:Dr. Phil https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/media/doctors-oz-phil-drew-fox-news/index.html Hack doctors and fox news are a great combo to ruin your day
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:33 |
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And people wanted Oprah to run for President when she gave all these pieces of poo poo a platform to begin with.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:36 |
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:And people wanted Oprah to run for President when she gave all these pieces of poo poo a platform to begin with. Which people?
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:38 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:Which people? Oz, Phil, and a bunch of others. She's a more destructive Paltrow.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:39 |
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Some of the video from the protests in MN is golden. https://www.facebook.com/unicornriot.ninja/videos/224572625440031 I like the "Trump for MN governor" sign.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:40 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:That’s hard to port
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 01:40 |
shame on an IGA posted:hard starboard eh Yeah gently caress tugboats who needs em
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 02:13 |
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US Berder Patrol posted:COD, coronavirus onboard delivery
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 02:15 |
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The only reason Oprah isn't president is because she doesn't want to be. I'd make a joke about how terrible that would be but honestly she'd be a step up from our current options
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 02:26 |
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the internet was a mistake.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 02:55 |
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Zamujasa posted:The statements of "It's just a 2-3% fatality rate" always just. blow my mind. Deja vu. The problem is Twitter. The problem is that people don't read the articles, and we especially don't read the peer reviewed math-heavy loving boring ones. And the problem is that the primary method of discussing complicated socio-economic ideas is by owning each other in quick snippets posted online and then taking them back to our socia media echo chambers to all smugly agree about how dumb or soft or evil those other guys are. And we're all doing it, myself included. That paper refers to a set of models for which the entire act of closing schools as reducing mortality across the UK 2-3%. So firstly, reopening schools, based on those models would be a value less than that, since that model assumed no action was taken. Second, the models have flipped so much I'm not super confident that those predictions are incredibly accurate. And third, the article the oft-quoted charlatan (Dr. Oz) is referring to: a. compares a number of socioeconomic factors and outcomes resulting from this that we don't have good data on, including reduced access to support structures that are often used to deliver necessary medical aid to children (i.e. vaccinations, mental health counseling), public screening for abuse (no teacher to ask where kids got those marks or why suddenly they don't want to talk in class), access to nutritional resources (school lunches) and access to specialized training for neuroatypical children, disabled children, and children with mental health conditions. b. cites how long term school closings in other situations have resulted in increases in child sexual assault, child labor, and students not returning to school afterwards. c. goes on to explain some of the advantages the closings will have on long term resilience and self-sufficiency for coming generations. and d. advocates that we include the outcomes and opinions of young people in our appraisal of the situation. I have no idea if Dr. Oz's point is appropriately nuanced. I suspect it isn't, but when a medium that tries to shovel ideas into the mouths of hungry consumers fast and quick (cable news), gets regurgitated and redistributed in a manner to reduce that nuance even further, I expect we're losing at least something of the picture. There is an important point to consider that at some point, the accrued risk from a lack of vaccinations, hampered education especially among the economically disenfranchised, reduced health outcomes that will spark comorbidity in future health crises, and the abuse of children may outweigh the risk avoided by continuing to keep schools closed. My intuition is that we're not there yet and we should not open schools yet. But eventually, not only may there be an outcome, but there will be if you close schools indefinitely. And while nobody (correction: few) argue to abolish public schools, we're not exactly clear on what an end state looks like. People on this subforum especially know what happens when nations get in giant resource-intensive engagements that result in human suffering and cost both treasure and lives without without defined objectives or exit strategies. If we don't include in our models these other costs, we may hurt or kill more people but feel good about it because we were doing something, instead of doing research.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:08 |
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shame on an IGA posted:hard starboard eh Holy poo poo.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:10 |
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Current Event: Some whiny little poo poo opened a "close GiP and TFR" thread in QCS, and an admin responded by changing the names of the forums and declaring this matter resolved.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:23 |
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Best Friends posted:The only reason Oprah isn't president is because she doesn't want to be. I'd make a joke about how terrible that would be but honestly she'd be a step up from our current options Her policy of "everybody gets a car" would be great for the auto industry but would the positive impact of getting unsafe gas guzzlers off the roads outweigh the negative impact of millions of old, abandoned cars, increased congestion and decrease in usage of public transport?
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:27 |
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Current Event: Some whiny little poo poo opened a "close GiP and TFR" thread in QCS, and an admin responded by changing the names of the forums and declaring this matter resolved. I'm proud to report that this was actually my idea lol Probably the best idea I'm going to have in 2020. Wasted on Something Awful.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:29 |
They had a point, we don't poo poo post enough to keep up with other forums so we really need to up our game.
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:31 |
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speak for yourself, nerd
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# ? Apr 18, 2020 03:59 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 10:22 |
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M_Gargantua posted:They had a point, we don't poo poo post enough to keep up with other forums so we really need to up our game. Your rap sheet is embarrassing, bro. PM me for lessons.
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