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namesake posted:Hypothetically the early Labour COBRA meetings would have spurred increased domestic production of medical necessities and earlier approaching of the engineering firms to develop new ventilators as part of the revitalising manufacturing and greening production along with not such a half arsed re-recruitment program for NHS workers so we would actually have been in a better state to deal with the situation even as the media openly made things worse by criticising every part of the response plan and telling people to keep going out. More than hypothetically: there's no way that Corbyn ignores the first invitation from the EU to join a PPE bulk buy, let alone the others. We also get a lockdown in the first week of March, and do all those things in the readiness plan that would have given us outcomes comparable with Singapore or Germany instead of fighting the US for the Stupidest Cunts In Power Award. As for the media: I can't see a Corbyn-led Labour government not doing something to clean that house from 13th December. E: 19th April 1818 - Venezuela achieves home rule. This is bad for Vicente Emparan. Jedit fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Apr 19, 2020 |
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Her Dryer posted:https://twitter.com/richardosman/status/1251810159686569986 You know I went to bed after my night shift wondering how all the blueticks who spent the last six weeks mocking anyone who questioned the government response would respond to the proof that they were wrong. Of Course nothing changes and they're still just mocking the public rather than come to terms with the awful nature of the tory party. Because they're all far angrier that people aren't paying to find out the government are killing people than knowing the government is killing people and it's far easier than doing any self reflection.
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Jedit posted:More than hypothetically: there's no way that Corbyn ignores the first invitation from the EU to join a PPE bulk buy, let alone the others. We also get a lockdown in the first week of March, and do all those things in the readiness plan that would have given us outcomes comparable with Singapore or Germany instead of fighting the US for the Stupidest Cunts In Power Award. Taking on the press would take time and involve a massive internal fight in Labour where all the freaks would try and throw their toys out the pram trying to defend the Murdoch press, it'd be sidelined by the Virus by which time the press would immediately be astroturfing protests in the home counties where their base are encouraged to go out and lick doorhandles to defy Stalinist Corbyn like is currently happening in America. Hate to say it but the Corbyn project was hosed from the moment Corbyn didn't purge the Blairites.
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Apr 19, 2020 14:47
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Jedit posted:As for the media: I can't see a Corbyn-led Labour government not doing something to clean that house from 13th December. do what exactly? they’re not passing any legislation over the xmas break
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Apr 19, 2020 14:47
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I mean the difference between a food item and a paper containing completely worthless information is that the former has value to a consumer.
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Apr 19, 2020 14:49
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Jedit posted:As for the media: I can't see a Corbyn-led Labour government not doing something to clean that house from 13th December. No new legislation would have been passed in the last 4 months and even just things like announcing a proper regulatory body for the press would have started the accusations of Red Repression which would have rolled into the pandemic. A bonus would be the morale for the left in public to just go to town on ruining the credibility of the press in general and try and break as many people out of believing what they read.
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So my parents fell into brexit hard. They were always wishy washy when it came to politics, didn't pay much attention voted Labour cause that's what everyone does round here kind of thing. Then brexit happened, they went off the deep end. Dad started posting the usual bum the poppy isn't Boris great, corbyn lol stuff and many upsetting conversations were had between us. Now though an interesting thing has happened. Brexit has spurred both of them to pay more attention to politics and the government's mishandling of corona has caused what seems like a switch to flip. They are in a rage at the government and Boris. I sent them the times article and they had already read it. They are receptive to left wing ideas again. Their WhatsApp groups are sharing stuff attacking the government on a range of issues. It's like the over 50s hive mind has woken up. N=1 and all that but I'm thankful my family appears to be sane again and I'm actually slightly hopeful whatever foul magic the tories used to mystify the public is wearing off.
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The Times accidentally did a journalism six weeks after it was obvious to any leftist shitposter that the government was loving up and that means you have to pay the transphobic, Islamophobic bigots in their campaign to change the leader of the Tories from The Telegraph's boy to the Murdoch's boy.
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im not convinced labour would have got out ahead of this either. both corbyn labour and bojo tories were having all their attention occupied by internal rearranging and preparing for a huge political project. neither would have wanted this to be real until it was late in the day. however obviously the actual response once it happened would have been better. i do think probably the press would have savaged labour to death by now and lmao at the idea of corbyn tackling them. they never had any plan to deal with the media other than hoping they could ignore it and still win which... whoops
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Angepain posted:i don't have to wake up every sunday to news of mars bars attacking the abstract concept of trans children so they get a pass imo Yorkie bars are probably anti-trans tho
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OwlFancier posted:gove has watched one too many movies and thinks it sounds cool I'm going in hot!!! *Gove runs naked into a covid-19 ward, clapping and drinking from a glass of water*
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Communist Thoughts posted:im not convinced labour would have got out ahead of this either. The bar has been set so low by Boris that all any alternative PM had to do to "get out ahead of this" was attend some of the meetings they were invited to, and check their emails/answering machines.
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Apr 19, 2020 15:16
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Someone pointed out on Twitter: Gordon Brown went to ALL COBR meetings during the Foot and Mouth crisis in 2007 and that didn't even affect human life. Also, the tories are now pushing the idea that PM's don't _need_ to attend crisis meetings. This implies, to me at least, that johnson's idea of leadership is to let the underlings scrap it out between themselves and the winner of said scrap gets to present their ideas for approval by the PM. Couple that with the cult of personality that is being built around johnson by the Telegraph etc and it's pretty scary.
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Apr 19, 2020 15:26
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Filboid Studge posted:Yeah agreed. Met Office? I ask because it sounds similar and I'm starting a new job there soon, so nice to hear there's a union presence.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yorkie bars are probably anti-trans tho Although if you’re ftm you can gleefully pretend they support you
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Angepain posted:i never expected to see a quote-each-paragraph-seperately angry forum post on the government website Any government takes two kinds of commentator seriously: people who can influence the population en masse, and people who can persuade the elite. These are the only two kinds of commentator that can credibly pose any threat to a sitting government by publishing an article. Peter Foster used to be a senior guy at the Telegraph and is now a senior guy at the FT. He’s a credible source to the kind of people the government acknowledge exist as individuals, and the article he edited and the subsequent Twitter thread was pretty much a declaration of war, because it directly accuses the country’s leaders of incompetence.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yorkie bars are probably anti-trans tho They're made by Nestle anyway, a company you absolutely SHOULD NOT be giving any of your money to. Dell_Zincht fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Apr 19, 2020 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I'm going in hot!!! "Let me do it, Boris. I know I can defeat the virus. I was a journalist, for the Times."
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Apr 19, 2020 15:44
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Yorkie bars are so poo poo they had to pivot to be "the well'ard chocolate only for real manly men" in order to go after the 'dumbass man too insecure to buy chocolate' demographic because no one in their right mind would seek out their poo poo bricks of sub-cheap-easteregg level filth over literally any other brand of chocolate.
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Apr 19, 2020 15:49
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What was the UKMT approved head trimmers we decided on? Apart from mdm guillotine ofc. I kinda think I look pretty now I've shaved my beard to wear a mask and my hair is growing out, but it's thinning at the front nowadays and is looking kinda stupid. So I wanna shave that stuff and go fully hairless. My partner misses my beard but Im beautiful like a woman now
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Apr 19, 2020 15:51
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Yorkie bars have the same energy as Waterstones selling “man tins” for “leads, cables, (and other pointless stuff I must keep)” and no “woman tin” saying the same thing, like it’s nineteen ninety loving four.
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Apr 19, 2020 15:53
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Her Dryer posted:https://twitter.com/richardosman/status/1251810159686569986 My newsagent keeps trying to sell me runny turds that have been poured into mars bar wrappers. Everyone on twitter is like 'here is a photo of the open wrapper and all the runny turd inside but the mars CEO is like 'you can't look at that, you have to buy the runny turds and taste them for yourself otherwise I don't get my bonus this year'
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I saw this tweet and I think that it's a good breakdown as to why the Newspapers are going all out. https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1251780661146509312?s=20
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Tabloids can't go anti Johnson yet, because the readership might start disliking Tories.learnincurve posted:Yorkie bars have the same energy as Waterstones selling “man tins” for “leads, cables, (and other pointless stuff I must keep)” and no “woman tin” saying the same thing, like it’s nineteen ninety loving four.
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Dog Pipes posted:This implies, to me at least, that johnson's idea of leadership is to let the underlings scrap it out between themselves and the winner of said scrap gets to present their ideas for approval by the PM. Couple that with the cult of personality that is being built around johnson by the Telegraph etc and it's pretty scary. cool cool, like how the nazis did it
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Women have dainty little boxes for to put their delicate trinkets in, most likely decorated with velvety, silky, lacey upholstery and a lid what opens easily so as what they do not break a nail in the process of the opening of it, I shouldn't wonder. And it does play a tune when opened so as for to comfort them 
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Jippa posted:Was this posted: It's a hilarious read. Lots of non-rebuttals in grumpy language. It's going to get taken to pieces. This is the UK goverment trying to do a journalism-right-back-at-ya like Trump did when he played his home video at a press conference the other day. Except Trump's stunt was smart enough to reach at the audience through the media's own platforms. Rather than use the beeb or drop this in a press conference, our government has launched it on a website with a readership of probably...15?
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Guavanaut posted:Tabloids can't go anti Johnson yet, because the readership might start disliking Tories. It's like a man drawer but you can carry it around with you. Also known as "pockets"
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Hey folks. Been trying to listen in/ chat over the past few days to all of this. Been drinking today, enjoying the sunshine and trying to stay positive. Work is paying us in full throughout what is coming so that is good. I know you folks have a lot on your plate, but I wanted to say thank you for listening to me ramble when I do ramble.
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Endjinneer posted:It's a hilarious read. Lots of non-rebuttals in grumpy language. It's going to get taken to pieces. This is probably a test run to guage how the media react before they try the same on a larger platform.
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Guavanaut posted:Tabloids can't go anti Johnson yet, because the readership might start disliking Tories. Do you own a blender? Enjoy your dreams everyone. https://twitter.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1251880404795170816
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Josef bugman posted:Hey folks. Been trying to listen in/ chat over the past few days to all of this. Yer a good lad bman
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My mum sent us this saying we're just a few weeks away from going back to normal. After pestering her for the source (The Sun) I was a bit more dubious. 
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Barry Foster posted:Yer a good lad bman As are you Barry. Please keep yourself safe, and if you do ever want to talk mental health please do. Who is thinking this will last till at least June/July? Also has anyone else become suddenly much more aware of their own mortality over the last few days?
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justcola posted:My mum sent us this saying we're just a few weeks away from going back to normal. After pestering her for the source (The Sun) I was a bit more dubious. lol we haven't even begun to see a drop in daily death totals yet, how is anyone expecting them to be able to reverse any social distancing measures in three weeks and not end up with us back where we are now immediately
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I predict the casualty figure for the first night all the pubs reopen at once will surpass the entire Corona virus death toll.
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learnincurve posted:Yorkie bars have the same energy as Waterstones selling “man tins” for “leads, cables, (and other pointless stuff I must keep)” and no “woman tin” saying the same thing, like it’s nineteen ninety loving four. We're obviously still pretty awful but it's loving crazy how short a time has passed since this kind of embedded, lazy sexism was totally ubiquitous and didn't even register as remotely problematic to 99% of the population. The early 2000s were a hell of a time.
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lol they've got spiderboy doing the briefing and his cheeks are so rosy I'm sure he must have some sort of condition daily rise today was "only" 596 dead people, for a total of 16,060 (in hospitals?) somehow I don't think we're going to manage to keep it under 20,000
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justcola posted:My mum sent us this saying we're just a few weeks away from going back to normal. After pestering her for the source (The Sun) I was a bit more dubious. Even ignoring the fact it's from the Sun, lots of people acting like once the lockdown is slowly rescinded, that'll be the end of lockdowns, not having potential waves of COVID 19 resulting in periodic lockdowns and such. And yeah, that's without the fact that our government is trash and actively attempting to lift the lockdown in the next few weeks 100% will just add 1000s more to the alreasy obscene death count. Which isn't to say any of them won't try because they're all psychopaths and "Money Number Must Go Up" - hell, look at Gove wanting to "go in hot", and the government having to be forced to actually deal with this. I did hear a rumour that they really wanted VE Day (8th May) to "return to normal", but who the gently caress knows at this point. Josef bugman posted:I know you folks have a lot on your plate, but I wanted to say thank you for listening to me ramble when I do ramble. You're a good poster JB - as are all the peeps ITT - so also big thanks to you all for keeping me relatively sane and a place to rant and ramble.
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