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this is the best documentation on what a piece of poo poo ESR is. very much worth the read lol https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses-license.html
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eschaton posted:RMS is awful, as is ESR I have met both of them and I endorse this post.
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eschaton posted:nbsd and rotor, please correct me if I’m wrong, but I think I may be the only person here who actually used some ESR software not only have i used fetchmail but i switched to an alternative (getmail) in disgust also fetchmail doesn’t deliver to mbox it hands off to the local mail server via smtp or sendmail, because ‘unix tool philosophy’/esr laziness
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eschaton posted:nbsd and rotor, please correct me if I’m wrong, but I think I may be the only person here who actually used some ESR software fetchmail was originally written by someone else and esr just “maintained” it, and then later did a from scratch rewrite in python that never reached feature complete status (I was also stuck with fetchmail years ago)
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eschaton posted:nbsd has said nothing inconsistent RMS has severe, untreated developmental disorders that prevent him from understanding other people and social interactions. ESR actively tries to be as lovely as possible.
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Apr 17, 2020 16:09
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ESR is a social pariah but with the internet he could be anyone he wanted so he decided to be a piece of poo poo
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Apr 17, 2020 17:00
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can't believe two people signed their posts in a row
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esr also has some kind of brain disease i want to say cerebral palsy? not that it directly causes aberrant social behaviors, just, it's part of the history that led us to the amazing lovely meatball he has become today
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Apr 17, 2020 17:12
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building tensorflow 1 from source is starting to become my goto solution to determining the stability of a system because it exercises the ram and cpu so much
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ESR would have been pushed out of authority far before RMS was, if ESR had ever been in a meaningful position of authority in the first place. (Yes I know he was OSI president.) Incidentally, ESR recently rejoined and soon got banned from OSIs license-discuss list, for CoC violations. At least ESR is polite enough to provide some foreplay before he goes all-in: quote:After twenty years of staying off this list, I have joined it. Unsurprisingly, he was mostly against licenses trying to ban toxic behaviour: quote:I reject the "Persona Non Grata" clause, and all other attempts at I don't have any opinion about mixing CoC and license concerns together, but ESR sure is real concerned about protecting assholes: quote:I am not fooled. You are mounting an ideological attack on our core It took four days of ESR activity before the chair of the license committee sent this: quote:Following an incident on Open Source Initiative mailing lists, the Board And then ESR went whining to his blog and said that he was banned for being "too rhetorically forceful". His words are just too powerful, you know.
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thank you for this and thank you, esr, for providing some light humor in these trying times I am almost, but not quite, curious to see what he means about "gun control". Maybe when I'm bored enough, I'll look it up. But it's unlikely.
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Apr 19, 2020 10:19
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the gently caress is a job safety program
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Apr 19, 2020 10:31
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the contrast between old esr fuming that he might ever be not allowed to be a fuckwit somewhere versus young esr trying to blow up ncurses because the guy fixing his patches violated the secret etiquette of the true hacker, lol
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Apr 19, 2020 11:18
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esr posted:You will not succeed while I retain any ability to oppose this. so that went well
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Apr 19, 2020 12:26
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Dude just abruptly ceased all emotional development at the age of sixteen, it really is something to behold (from a safe distance)
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Apr 19, 2020 15:32
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Suspicious Dish posted:the gently caress is a job safety program like what osha does no i’ve never heard anybody call them that either
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Apr 19, 2020 15:34
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A "job safety program" is when an awful old open sores rapist inexplicably has a very comfortable sinecure where they don't seem to do much of anything except patch something like troff or sendmail three times a year
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oh is it like a job safety TRAINING program? training people about gun safety sounds like a good idea, that should be part of gun control reform yes
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Suspicious Dish posted:the gently caress is a job safety program rjmccall posted:like what osha does in context i believe it is a sneering term for a jobs guarantee that is to say, he believes gun control is substantially equivalent to a union fighting for a guarantee of future employment to all prior employees during poor economic conditions (this is extra funny since we know full well that esr doesn't believe in unions or job surety, either -- it is hypocrisy boiled down to a single sentence. the reader is expected to think a job guarantee sounds like a good thing, and that it should not apply to criminals, while esr does not think job guarantees are good, but it would be even worse if criminals had them)
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Clark Nova posted:A "job safety program" is when an awful old open sores rapist inexplicably has a very comfortable sinecure where they don't seem to do much of anything except patch something like troff or sendmail three times a year very comfortable meaning earning $0 a year of course and living off their spouse
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Vomik posted:very comfortable meaning earning $0 a year of course and living off their spouse iirc, esr is now wealthy due to owning stock in some startup that went public
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Apr 19, 2020 18:19
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the osha interpretation is more straightforward. gun control would improve job safety for criminals because decent free-thinking folks like esr wouldn't be able to defend themselves from the criminal classes
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Apr 19, 2020 18:20
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The_Franz posted:iirc, esr is now wealthy due to owning stock in some startup that went public I hope he (didn’t) learn his lesson from last time
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Apr 19, 2020 18:20
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The_Franz posted:iirc, esr is now wealthy due to owning stock in some startup that went public didn’t that stock drop to almost nothing before he would be able to sell it? he wrote a long winded blog post about how being a millionaire well before he was able to cash out iirc
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Apr 19, 2020 18:29
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The_Franz posted:iirc, esr is now wealthy due to owning stock in some startup that went public Are you thinking of valinux ?
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Apr 19, 2020 18:48
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shot:esr posted:Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:21:23 -0500 chaser: 
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(fwiw i don't know if/when he cashed out and for how much. he very well may have cashed out a million bucks since he had 150000 shares)
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Apr 19, 2020 18:57
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rjmccall posted:the osha interpretation is more straightforward. gun control would improve job safety for criminals because decent free-thinking folks like esr wouldn't be able to defend themselves from the criminal classes so he mixed up "job safety" with "job security", lol. this makes far more sense, thank you.
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Cold on a Cob posted:shot: the loss is even bigger than this chart looks
also 99% understates it, because it's very unlikely esr held his stock all the way through the trough -- it was worth less than $2 per share at one point. 2015 values, when they left public markets, were well above the bottom
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rjmccall posted:the osha interpretation is more straightforward. gun control would improve job safety for criminals because decent free-thinking folks like esr wouldn't be able to defend themselves from the criminal classes ah yes i significantly underestimated how often esr, like other gun nuts, fantasizes about murdering other people
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precisely. only a totalitarian state could make esr no longer an occupational hazard for evil-doers everywhere
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http://workbench.cadenhead.org/news/3149/eric-s-raymond-bazaar-financial-advisor According to this, by the time he could sell his shares dropped in value from 35 million to 5 million, but no stock sales were reported by him... when he sold he was able to get $195,000.
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and thats the most he could have gotten... no one knows when he sold though because thats when he left the board so no longer had to report any trades.
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given that that slug was begging for donations to buy a midrange gaming machine so his bad cvs to git translator could run in 32GB and also complaining about Obama forcing his wife’s employer cutting her paralegal hours to 29 to avoid aca I would not expect a mattress full of va linux krugerrands.
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lol good, gently caress him
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esr is like the failed initial experiment of a tech bro
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lol I don't know why I assumed he was loaded. I suppose you can post racism to a mailing list from a $30 fire tablet
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PCjr sidecar posted:given that that slug was begging for donations to buy a midrange gaming machine so his bad cvs to git translator could run in 32GB and also complaining about Obama forcing his wife’s employer cutting her paralegal hours to 29 to avoid aca I would not expect a mattress full of va linux krugerrands. esr's wife is an actual licensed attorney, a member of the bar, so if she was doing paralegal work that's not a good sign for her career (which must be how they ended up with no money, begging on the internet)
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The_Franz posted:iirc, esr is now wealthy due to owning stock in some startup that went public nope, he never cashed out his VA Linux shares and then they cratered he went on Patreon once his wife was laid off from her law firm before that she was supporting him, now I don’t know If she has any clients or if his Patreon is their only income none of that has ever stopped him from pretending he’s a finance whiz just like he thinks he’s a natural genius in all other fields of endeavor, but he’s always been like that
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:esr's wife is an actual licensed attorney, a member of the bar, so if she was doing paralegal work that's not a good sign for her career she wasn’t, she was a staff attorney at a law firm specializing in insurance law and is now doing private practice
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