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Ignis posted:Where's your power rankings now I do feel like Florida is the best of the bad teams. Eternal has been grouped with the lower edge of the top tier (Fusion, Shock, Dynasty, Dragons), but I feel like even with Xzi they're more in the upper-midcard tier (Reign, Gladiators, Charge, Spark, NYXL).
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surf rock posted:I do feel like Florida is the best of the bad teams. Eternal has been grouped with the lower edge of the top tier (Fusion, Shock, Dynasty, Dragons), but I feel like even with Xzi they're more in the upper-midcard tier (Reign, Gladiators, Charge, Spark, NYXL). just watching this first fight here of the Boston/Toronto match there's no way Florida is on their level, Florida would have absolutely wiped the floor with either of them
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deadwing posted:just watching this first fight here of the Boston/Toronto match there's no way Florida is on their level, Florida would have absolutely wiped the floor with either of them battle for the toilet bowl
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That must be the longest loving delay before KOTH point got capped jesus christ, I just started giggling to myself it was so fun
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9k viewers jesus christ
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It's somewhere between 1 and 4am on a saturday morning in the Americas. You can't be surprised these numbers are low. I'm only watching because its slow at work
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Apr 18, 2020 10:18
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I've gotta admit that the excitement for Chinese overwatch has waned a lil bit, between the matches being repeats for three weeks and counting, and Chengdu insisting on playing something that resembles the current meta
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Apr 18, 2020 10:35
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CuwiKhons posted:It's somewhere between 1 and 4am on a saturday morning in the Americas. You can't be surprised these numbers are low. It's 11am in Europe and 6pm in China (where both teams playing are from!). 12k viewers is absolutely shocking.
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Apr 18, 2020 10:51
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Chinese and Euro viewers arent going to show up on NA youtube as I understand it.Ignis posted:I've gotta admit that the excitement for Chinese overwatch has waned a lil bit, between the matches being repeats for three weeks and counting, and Chengdu insisting on playing something that resembles the current meta Definitely agree with this though. It's only so interesting to watch Shanghai stomp the poo poo out of the Spark for what, the third time? This whole season has felt like a wash for months now. Several teams have still barely played at all and I just dont see when things are going to change.
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Apr 18, 2020 10:57
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Wow I preemptively feel bad for surf rock when he gets around to watching that Numbani match.
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Apr 18, 2020 11:20
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kru posted:9k viewers jesus christ the bilibili stream right now claims 4.8 million viewers oof that draw
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Apr 18, 2020 11:27
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I have bad news for you about chinese stream view counts
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Apr 18, 2020 11:57
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Yeah that number seems totally unbelievable and I'm probably just reading the data wrong
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Apr 18, 2020 12:05
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God, we just loving SUCK compared to the Dragons. They have our number so goddamn bad. edit: it's real lovely when none of your favorite teams are elite. Packers in NFL (great but not excellent), Spark in OWL (good but not great), Pistons in NBA (average), Tigers in MLB (bad), Red Wings in NHL (bad). Obviously it could be worse and every team I love could be bad, but it's so nice when you have a championship-caliber team in at least one sport. Dammit. surf rock fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Apr 18, 2020 |
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Ad by Khad posted:Yeah that number seems totally unbelievable and I'm probably just reading the data wrong Nah it's a common thing that chinese streaming sites report insane viewer numbers. IIirc, basically there's no regulation keeping them honest and they're all competing for the perception of the biggest streaming site and there's a lot of secondary and tertiary incentives to inflating the number so you end up with some extraordinary numbers. People used to try to guess what percent of them were real but tbh they're too opaque and no one knows. E: wasn't facebook doing this, too? Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Apr 18, 2020 |
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There’s probably a lot of people watching OWL in China but definitely not 4.8 million lol
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kru posted:It's 11am in Europe and 6pm in China (where both teams playing are from!). 12k viewers is absolutely shocking. it's less than half of what they were getting last week for the asian games iirc
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CuwiKhons posted:Chinese and Euro viewers arent going to show up on NA youtube as I understand it. Is this true? As manatee says, I had 28k viewers last week and 12k this morning.
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I don't think Spark are objectively the worst Chinese team but man when they suck, they really suck rear end. They seem way more up and down than the Charge, Dragons, or Hunters.kru posted:Is this true? As manatee says, I had 28k viewers last week and 12k this morning. I mean as Ad by Khad pointed out, Chinese viewers are watching through Billibilli so, yeah? They may be inflating their numbers but no matter what their numbers, the 12k on NA Youtube isn't including them. Obviously I don't mean to say that viewership isn't greatly down though. It's just not so low that even China isn't watching Chinese games.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:E: wasn't facebook doing this, too? Twitch and facebook could probably get away with it on a limited basis, but because they are or are owned by US publicly traded companies they could potentially get in trouble if a judge were to determine that outright lies affected the stock price Anyway that's boring. I will say that I liked the games I watched this week
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CuwiKhons posted:
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If it isn't obviously clear to literally anyone eu/na numbers are not split from each other. It's split by plattform. Getting 10k viewers at any time is brutal imo.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:45
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Tommu posted:If it isn't obviously clear to literally anyone eu/na numbers are not split from each other. It's split by plattform. Getting 10k viewers at any time is brutal imo. yeah, exactly
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kru posted:Obviously it doesnt include chinese viewers. You infer that euro/NA viewer totals are split. I mean you didn't specify if you were asking about Euro viewers and you'd already said you thought the view count included Chinese viewers so I don't think that was an unreasonable reply. As far as Euro viewers though, I am definitely willing to admit I'm wrong on that if Tommu says I am. I probably misunderstood something my Euro friend told me.
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Also because i keep seeing people talk about it my understanding is bumper is not in owl of his own volition and there were teams who wanted him.
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Do you know anything about the Haksal situation? I saw on Reddit there were signs that he was done with the Titans or they were done with him.
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CuwiKhons posted:Do you know anything about the Haksal situation? I saw on Reddit there were signs that he was done with the Titans or they were done with him. No idea, i'm kinda on the way out and spend all my time bitching about terrible design decisions. Think people should be more interested in why London isnt playing till may or why we havnt heard about NYXL tho. (Why didn't titans play this week either idgi???)
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Where's sinattraa either and why the gently caress was he allowed to post he was streaming 8 hours of valorant a day.
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unironically if I owned an owl team, I'd be considering if i could convert the players into valorant pros. Like sinatraa is probably worth more as a potential valorant player than an owl player at this point I'm partly memeing, but not entirely. Also I'm really curious what dirt Jeff has on blizz-act execs (beyond the obvious on kotick) that he is apparently chained to OW until the day it finally dies. E: also we found at least one of the wayward ow teams: https://twitter.com/ESPN_Esports/status/1251616493743362048?s=20 Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Apr 19, 2020 |
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Haksal, Twilight, and Slime have all removed that they are part of the Titans from their Twitter bios in the last 24 hours. Allegedly the management is awful and the team is basically imploding.Ad by Khad posted:Yeah that number seems totally unbelievable and I'm probably just reading the data wrong Facebook was falsifying video views (by counting anyone who watched for 3 seconds as a view) but I don't think there's currently evidence of falsified stream viewers Malloc Voidstar fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Apr 19, 2020 |
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All the Titans players (except for jjanu, who doesn't use his Twitter much) have removed the Titans branding from their profiles
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So, are we about to watch a league unravel right before our eyes? I don't recall that ever happening to a sport midseason before.
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Tommu posted:No idea, i'm kinda on the way out and spend all my time bitching about terrible design decisions. Think people should be more interested in why London isnt playing till may or why we havnt heard about NYXL tho. (Why didn't titans play this week either idgi???) I heard london and seoul are in a 2 week quarantine from the government because they traveled there. presumably they can't play? you'd think nyxl would be in the same situation there are an uneven number of teams in the asian division so I think a team will be sitting out ever week
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Rand Brittain posted:So, are we about to watch a league unravel right before our eyes? I don't recall that ever happening to a sport midseason before.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I heard london and seoul are in a 2 week quarantine from the government because they traveled there. presumably they can't play? you'd think nyxl would be in the same situation London's been in KR since late March. And if its qurantene how did Vancouver play a game.
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Unironically, they're all just playing valorant. Hell most of the coaching staff is probably doing the same thing. It's pretty clear that valorant is going to be the #1 source of new esports paychecks for the foreseeable future
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Echo tournament is still going on https://www.twitch.tv/mb_official Bracket: https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Flash_Ops:_Echo_Showdown/NA Go Kariv and fct 
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