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Allison can toallty take that dude.
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Mr. Lobe posted:If benevolent dictators were a thing that actually existed and endured through generations, autocratic monarchy would probably have never been rendered obsolete by liberal democracy. I'm sure between propaganda and his legitimate merits, he is probably fairly popular. It's sort of the Exalted problem where the metaphysics mean normal people don't and can't matter.
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 23:26 |
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The Halogens posted:Would this be the worst-smelling place we've seen so far after a few hours or do you think we've been shown a smellier location? Incubus' tower-pits.
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# ? Apr 19, 2020 23:44 |
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YaketySass posted:It's sort of the Exalted problem where the metaphysics mean normal people don't and can't matter. That’s only one edition of Exalted, to be fair. Most of the time the metaphysics of the setting don’t actually declare that unnamed characters are ‘extras’ subject to harsher mechanical rules. It’s still the case that the Exalted are wildly stronger than the un-Exalted but it’s not like that officially makes them more morally valuable like in 2e, which was a weird direction for the game line to take I tell you what.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 00:39 |
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Mindblast posted:Maybe this ending to the tournament is so standard that every seat has a folded umbrella underneath it. "The front 50 rows will get wet."
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 00:39 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:"The front 50 rows will get wet." Even worse are the knockoff tournaments under the name David Too
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 00:56 |
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Maia is still unaccounted for and if she’s in the arena she’s allowed a strike.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:18 |
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Oh man. If Maya shows up outta nowhere that would be amazing. I don't think it'll happen, though.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:28 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Allison can toallty take that dude. She couldn't even make it a couple rounds into the tournament, against normal (by KSBD standards) kung fu dudes, without fusing with Cio.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:28 |
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Now I'm just trying to come up with a good riff on "ticket pays for the whole seat but you'll only need THE EDGE" but I can't come up with anything.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:28 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:Solomon’s rule is so hilariously legalist that it makes the state of Qin look like Gay Space Automated Luxury Communism. His response to a woman sleeping with one of his officers involves executing the officer and sentencing her to at least a decade in a work camp. Yeah the fall of the Qin loving rules. The only thing funnier than "if you get a rain delay, you die" school of government suicide is that the immediate successor to the Qin, the Chu, got completely loving owned in 4 years because Xiang Yu for some reason thought organizing the entire country into a civil war blender was somehow a good idea. PMush Perfect posted:Hell, "give up my freedom for security" is a choice that some people might actually willingly make in this crazy hyperlethal kung-fu universe.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:29 |
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I get how Gog could still fight Solomon because can he do this a literal billon times, but this looks like it would chump Mottom and Gramps. How are they still alive? Incubus wants to fight this?
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:31 |
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The moment Swolemon moves against Mottom or Gramps and succeeds, down comes everyone else on him. Including Jagganoth. And both Mottom and Grampy Dragon have massive armies. You can kill a ring of mooks all you want, if there's enough bodies to throw at you (and they don't run away) then eventually you'll get overwhelmed. I would be so mad if I were a competitor and lost to time/speed hax, though. Especially if I'd been following the tournament to know my foe and he'd never pulled this particular bullshit before.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:36 |
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habeasdorkus posted:The moment Swolemon moves against Mottom or Gramps and succeeds, down comes everyone else on him. Including Jagganoth. And both Mottom and Grampy Dragon have massive armies. You can kill a ring of mooks all you want, if there's enough bodies to throw at you (and they don't run away) then eventually you'll get overwhelmed. I’m not sure your forebrain would have time to get mad before it’s not longer capable of that emotion, tbqh
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:42 |
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Brain Candy posted:I get how Gog could still fight Solomon because can he do this a literal billon times, but this looks like it would chump Mottom and Gramps. How are they still alive? This is a cool trick for killing a few hundred people. Mottom regularly destroys whole planet scale civilizations without lifting a finger. Is it "cheating" to use an army instead of kung fu? I guess, but the actual weapons everybody has on hand are "thousands of worlds worth of armies." Davy has armies too but we haven't seen enough of all the armies that I'd want to put money down on how they'd all perform. The other thing to keep in mind is that diamonds are very tough in very specific ways and he could very well be vulnerable to, say, being turned into a tree from a hundred miles away. Jagganoth is scaring the poo poo out of everybody else not because he's so personally strong - he was personally strong the whole time - but because his armies are getting massively better than everybody else's.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:52 |
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I will lose my poo poo if this smash cuts to our furious dumb protagonist freaking out in Solomon's Za Warudo.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:53 |
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I don’t understand this reference and I don’t know if I want to.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:54 |
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i will say the moment solomon grundy decides to ki rata jagganoth to show his martial superiority and his kick just stops dead against one of his magnificent pecs will be a tasty moment indeed
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 01:59 |
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Flesnolk posted:She couldn't even make it a couple rounds into the tournament, against normal (by KSBD standards) kung fu dudes, without fusing with Cio. See, I want this to be foreshadowing, where Solomon David is totally using his Key to stop time, just so that when he tries to do the same thing when he has to fight Allison, she does too, and doesn't understand why he's upset that she's still moving around and reacting.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:04 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:Solomon’s rule is so hilariously legalist that it makes the state of Qin look like Gay Space Automated Luxury Communism. His response to a woman sleeping with one of his officers involves executing the officer and sentencing her to at least a decade in a work camp. The version of the story that I heard was that there was a sheriff who was transporting convicts to a labor camp, and one of them escaped. The penalty for losing a prisoner was death, so, figuring he had nothing to lose, he set all of his prisoners free and they all regrouped in the wilderness to start organizing an uprising. That sheriff would go on to become the first emperor of Han.
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Tulip posted:Jagganoth is scaring the poo poo out of everybody else not because he's so personally strong - he was personally strong the whole time - but because his armies are getting massively better than everybody else's. Jagganoth is also, apparently, literally invulnerable. While that doesn't apparently make him instantly stronger than everyone, it does speak to him having some kind of category-breaking power that none of them understand. That's got to be worrying!
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:11 |
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PMush Perfect posted:I don’t understand this reference and I don’t know if I want to. I'm struggling mightily to figure out the pithy way to say "people give up actual freedoms for illusory safety all the time" and I think I settled on just "total brokebrains"
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:11 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:Solomon’s rule is so hilariously legalist that it makes the state of Qin look like Gay Space Automated Luxury Communism. His response to a woman sleeping with one of his officers involves executing the officer and sentencing her to at least a decade in a work camp. is it terrible that I think, "oh well at least he placed the heaviest punishment on the man with power, and didn't just go 'hurr woman seductress bad"
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:18 |
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the whole diamonds don't scratch but they sure do shatter thing leads me to doubt that salami is going to make it out of this book or part or whatever alive
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PMush Perfect posted:I don’t understand this reference and I don’t know if I want to. Joe Rogan has the curiosity of a child and the intelligence of one.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:28 |
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Eh, murdering a stadium filled with people who know martial arts bullshit or red arts or whatever is a bigger flex than turning dudes into trees. Mottom can get held up by a nipple nun with a whip. I guess I'm saying there's a world where she is smote by horse style, and not so much with our salami boy here.
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Begemot posted:Solomon David is not the same as that Solomon David. I found it! Mazerunner posted:is it terrible that I think, "oh well at least he placed the heaviest punishment on the man with power, and didn't just go 'hurr woman seductress bad" I mean... this was his take on the Judgement of Solomon (which I remembered as somewhat harsher than it was, though I'd argue this is still pretty drat bad): quote:Very true. I believe the well-known story was that Solomon offered to split the babe in two for fairness’ sake, and when the real mother began to cry, Solomon knew who was telling the truth.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:31 |
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habeasdorkus posted:The moment Swolemon moves against Mottom or Gramps and succeeds, down comes everyone else on him. Including Jagganoth. And both Mottom and Grampy Dragon have massive armies. You can kill a ring of mooks all you want, if there's enough bodies to throw at you (and they don't run away) then eventually you'll get overwhelmed. Power levels are dumb, people. But I will jump in anyways. Solomon has an advantage being that he hasnt been sitting on his rear end for the last couple eternities, and I assume he has a rigorous training and breathing exercise routine between his kombucha cleanses* and daily put downs of his children. But like you said as soon as one demiurge defeats another the entire thing falls apart into chaos, with Jagganoth coming out the likely winner simply because hes planning for and anticipating that to happen. *"You see this SCOBY, child, I have cultivated it to produce fine kombucha. And I make it a habit to create a new culture every once in a while, recording and documenting its growth. This morning it has grown, and I have judged it more likely to become heir than any of my children now before me."
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:46 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:the likely winner simply because hes planning for and anticipating that to happen. Incubus: So what you're saying is, I have a chance! (No Incubus that's not what we're saying) I HAVE A CHANCE!
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 02:50 |
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Bongo Bill posted:The version of the story that I heard was that there was a sheriff who was transporting convicts to a labor camp, and one of them escaped. The penalty for losing a prisoner was death, so, figuring he had nothing to lose, he set all of his prisoners free and they all regrouped in the wilderness to start organizing an uprising. That sheriff would go on to become the first emperor of Han. Both of those stories are true, though it was a pair of soldiers late to their posts, not mailmen, in the first one. The late soldiers started the failed Dazexiang uprising and the failed sheriff was indeed Liu Bang, future Emperor Gaozu of Han. There's also a fascinating historical undercurrent that the Chancellor of Qin, Zhao Gao, may have been deliberately making the laws absurd in an attempt to wreak vengeance on Qin from within. None of this is the funniest legalist self-own, which is that the guy who implemented legalism in Qin way back at the start of all this was eventually declared a traitor, tried to flee, and was caught because his own law against not having official travel permits stranded him in the middle of nowhere with no shelter. K Prime fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:
"So, uh, what's the punishment for being late for work?" "Death." "And what's the punishment for attempting to violently overthrow the emperor?" "Death." "Well, we're late for work."
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Joe Slowboat posted:Incubus: So what you're saying is, I have a chance! (No Incubus that's not what we're saying) I HAVE A CHANCE! It was Jagganoth's idea. Incubus was content stewing in his filth pit for all eternity until Jags lit a fire under him. This is not a man in complete control of whatever hole he has himself in. He's also managed to fool himself into thinking that this isnt the case.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:This is not a man in complete control of whatever hole he has himself in. This doesn't seem to say it was Jagganoth's idea, just that they're working together. We don't have any evidence it was the Red God's idea, and from Incubus' first scene with Allison in dreams where he seems to be considering how useful she might be, I would bet he was the first to see potential in her - maybe not to restart Universal War, but his entire deal is taking people and baiting them into getting hooked on Crystal Incubus. Plus, just narratively, unless he explicitly says Jagganoth drew him into this plan, the way he was introduced and the way the story played out, he's clearly meant to be understood as independently scheming. That he's dumb enough to scheme with the Red God is a character point about Incubus, and his terrible terrible decisions.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 03:25 |
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It's only a terrible decision if you don't think Allison can win.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 03:32 |
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Hypocrisy posted:It's only a terrible decision if you don't think Allison can win. I don't mean he's wrong, I think he's actually best positioned for everything about to go down - but it's Incubus, so even his objectively effective decisions are definitionally terrible.
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Demiurge4 posted:Maia is still unaccounted for and if shes in the arena shes allowed a strike. If anyone could claim that single drop of blood, it's actually probably her. Don't forget she's an Emissary of Jagganoth and spoiling for a shot of her own at Incubus. Joe Slowboat posted:This doesn't seem to say it was Jagganoth's idea, just that they're working together. We don't have any evidence it was the Red God's idea, and from Incubus' first scene with Allison in dreams where he seems to be considering how useful she might be, I would bet he was the first to see potential in her - maybe not to restart Universal War, but his entire deal is taking people and baiting them into getting hooked on Crystal Incubus. Incubus' scheme is training Alice to make her beat up the big red bully squatting in his playground.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 03:40 |
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Joe Slowboat posted:This doesn't seem to say it was Jagganoth's idea, just that they're working together. We don't have any evidence it was the Red God's idea, and from Incubus' first scene with Allison in dreams where he seems to be considering how useful she might be, I would bet he was the first to see potential in her - maybe not to restart Universal War, but his entire deal is taking people and baiting them into getting hooked on Crystal Incubus. Jagganoth is the primary instigator of this scheme. He called the meeting, he's the shadow looming over the rest of the demiurges, and the most capable of toppling any portion of them (but not the whole). As well as the phrasing above of "Then well see if you deserve the master key or not" implies a much stronger hand in the events and their planning, and incubus being dragged along. In addition among all the stagnation the demiurges wallowed in he was the first to be roused into action, and he didnt even meet our favorite bonny lass and eternal queen of bad decisions. Jags wants the master key for his own, and drafted incubus into this, baiting and exploiting his sense of inferiority. Whether Incubus is doing a side plan or not is unclear as of yet, but the situation he's in is all Jags. Neddy Seagoon posted:If anyone could claim that single drop of blood, it's actually probably her. Don't forget she's an Emissary of Jagganoth and spoiling for a shot of her own at Incubus. That is never stated nor would she ever have anything to do with a demiurge. Shes despises them. Incubus the most. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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