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Have any of you ever looked at applying for citizenship? Are there any particular benefits other than being able to visit Cuba?
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Apr 20, 2020 02:48
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Stringent posted:Are there any particular benefits other than being able to visit Cuba? Telepathy, longer intestines, wa.
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Apr 20, 2020 02:51
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those all sound p good tbh
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Apr 20, 2020 02:56
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Stringent posted:Have any of you ever looked at applying for citizenship? Are there any particular benefits other than being able to visit Cuba? ya get to take your wife's name or make her change it to some horribad ateji of yours, you get a koseki, you get to lie to government about making an effort to renounce your other citizenship(s), you don't have to worry about lovely courts denying you welfare, and you get to make protest votes for the JCP. almost worth it for that last one.
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Apr 20, 2020 03:19
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i haven't seriously looked into it tho
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Apr 20, 2020 03:20
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None of the benefits of becoming a phony nihonjin are attractive to me. Hell, it seems like it would cause even more hassle, given you'd always have to explain why you don't have a gaijin card, gaikoku passport or whatever. For US citizens, it could be worth it financially though. It's literally the only way to legally avoid dual taxation, which is probably the foremost reason people renounce US citizenship. Expect a kick on the rear end on your way out the door though. zmcnulty fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Apr 20, 2020 |
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Apr 20, 2020 03:55
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zmcnulty posted:None of the benefits of becoming a phony nihonjin are attractive to me. Hell, it seems like it would cause even more hassle, given you'd always have to explain why you don't have a gaijin card, gaikoku passport or whatever. I think if you make enough to actually have to pay the dual taxes in any appreciable amount you can probably afford to keep the US citizenship lol
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Apr 20, 2020 05:41
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Magna Kaser posted:I think if you make enough to actually have to pay the dual taxes in any appreciable amount you can probably afford to keep the US citizenship lol Yeah anyone making enough to pay US taxes abroad can eat my entire rear end instead of whining about the injustice of being rich.
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Apr 20, 2020 05:53
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Mr. Fix It posted:ya get to take your wife's name or make her change it to some horribad ateji of yours, you get a koseki, you get to lie to government about making an effort to renounce your other citizenship(s), you don't have to worry about lovely courts denying you welfare, and you get to make protest votes for the JCP. almost worth it for that last one. People do get caught for maintaining other citizenships. There was at least one American guy who did it and got caught and lost his Japanese. Also I think he had to re-apply for US because the Japanese require a fairly official US doc? Forget the details. Basically don't bother imo. zmcnulty posted:None of the benefits of becoming a phony nihonjin are attractive to me. Hell, it seems like it would cause even more hassle, given you'd always have to explain why you don't have a gaijin card, gaikoku passport or whatever. I know at least one dude at former company who mentioned he had some apartment buildings he used to offset some taxes or summat and structured things so that he didn't really pay anything more, so once you hit a certain level of wealth you can apparently avoid it quite well. Didn't ask for more details and maybe it's shady stuff that would get you hit in an audit so who knows. Then again the IRS is now literally avoiding auditing the wealthy to concentrate on destroying the middle and lower class so lol
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Apr 20, 2020 06:09
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I think getting to not be American anymore is a decent enough perk
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Apr 20, 2020 07:54
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mikeycp posted:I think getting to not be American anymore is a decent enough perk lol, that stain's never coming off
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Apr 20, 2020 08:02
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It'd be a weight off my mental state at least. A curse upon my soul, lifted
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Apr 20, 2020 08:05
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lol at the idea of Americans having souls
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Apr 20, 2020 08:38
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mikeycp posted:It'd be a weight off my mental state at least. A curse upon my soul, lifted trading imperialism, native american genocide and a-bombs for imperialism, attempted korean genocide and nanking seems like a lateral move.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:12
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listen my hating america and being american and also generally being does not need to be rational
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Apr 20, 2020 09:59
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If memory serves the Americans got more done on the Korean genocide front than the Japanese ever managed.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:30
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Japan may have been worse in the past, but the US is clearly the bad guy now. I think it is inarguable that we are the worst country. Definitely have the worst, most disrespectful, citizens.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:34
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also, we don't even pretend to have any functional social safety nets anymore just completely mask off about wanting poors to die
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Apr 20, 2020 10:38
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mikeycp posted:also, we don't even pretend to have any functional social safety nets anymore that poo poo knows no borders  sucks that the mask is off in the US tho yeah
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Apr 20, 2020 10:50
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go get irish citizenship if you don't want to be american anymore imho
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Apr 20, 2020 10:52
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If you get JP citizenship you can vote and join the military. No thx It makes sense if you're from a country with a very weak passport and/or your parents are both gaijins but you were born and raised in Japan.
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Apr 20, 2020 14:33
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And here I was thinking I needed to be a Japanese citizen to be able to buy a house there. Well thats one worry less I guess (Now I just need to actually move there, maybe once the plague passes)
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Apr 20, 2020 16:06
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Right now I would rather be quarantined in Japan for two weeks and take my chances with finding a job afterwards than stay in the melting death trap that is the US.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:23
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Waltzing Along posted:Definitely have the worst, most disrespectful, citizens. The UK are past masters at this.
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Apr 20, 2020 16:40
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Yawgmoft posted:Right now I would rather be quarantined in Japan for two weeks and take my chances with finding a job afterwards than stay in the melting death trap that is the US. It really depends on whether you prefer a slow-moving train wreck or a fast-moving train wreck.
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Apr 20, 2020 17:15
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Archer666 posted:maybe once the plague passes extreme optimism
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Apr 20, 2020 17:20
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Business of Ferrets posted:It really depends on whether you prefer a slow-moving train wreck or a fast-moving train wreck. 日本を取る。日本はアメリカより自動販売機のほうがいいんですよ。
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Apr 20, 2020 18:16
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mikeycp posted:extreme optimism Its how I roll. That and crippling alcoholism.
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Apr 20, 2020 18:17
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Yawgmoft posted:Right now I would rather be quarantined in Japan for two weeks and take my chances with finding a job afterwards than stay in the melting death trap that is the US. we don't want you
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Apr 21, 2020 02:37
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Yawgmoft posted:日本を取る。 Shameful. Don't directly translate idioms.
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Apr 21, 2020 03:47
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Don't awkward use with a bunch of English speakers in general.
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Apr 21, 2020 05:44
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Note if you get the urge to use Japanese for no reason it's because you're bad btw
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Apr 21, 2020 05:44
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LimburgLimbo posted:Note if you get the urge to use Japanese for no reason it's because you're bad btw sumimasen sempai
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Apr 21, 2020 07:16
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申し訳ありません。今から自殺して起きております。
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Apr 21, 2020 07:31
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That's even less funny than I imagined it and it sounded pretty bad in my head.
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Apr 21, 2020 07:33
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it's bad
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Apr 21, 2020 09:37
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LimburgLimbo posted:Note if you get the urge to use Japanese for no reason it's because you're bad btw hmmm
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Apr 21, 2020 19:16
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cool cool i'm going back to planning my next trip guys whats a good place to eat in tokyo and how do i pick up japanese babes???
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Apr 21, 2020 22:17
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Martytoof posted:cool cool i'm going back to planning my next trip The Hub is the answer to both of those questions.
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.Z. posted:The Hub is the answer to both of those questions. 
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