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I mean it's all bullshit but school holidays aren't like a set in stone immutable reality?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I mean it's all bullshit but school holidays aren't like a set in stone immutable reality? The song is "Schools out for Summer" not "Schools out eventually what even is time if you think about it." 
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Apr 20, 2020 02:52
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At least this'll be the final nail in the coffin of all those lovely travel agents
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Apr 20, 2020 03:14
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Gotta say, trolling Guardian CIF as a Tory True Patriot is a lot of fun. At this point I'm pretty sure all the supposed Russian Propaganda Bots are just also bitter socialists.
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Apr 20, 2020 04:00
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As far as I can see, the typical Guardian commenter is a mean-spirited pensioner, grimly determined to preserve the economic system that's coddled them (at everyone else's expense) but who also sees themselves as an enlightened and compassionate individual. It's a gruesome combination of traits.
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Apr 20, 2020 05:03
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WhatEvil posted:I don't really give a poo poo personally, but for a lot of people this kind of thing is their "self-care" and they get spun out if they can't do it. Like it's not just the actual looking nice, it's the process, it's a ritual, it's feeling good about yourself. Yeah fair enough, that makes sense
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Apr 20, 2020 05:26
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OwlFancier posted:At the moment I would suspect that they probably aren't allowing visitation, at the least. I'm grudgingly forced to admit that makes sense and that there probably are an abundance of plonkers out there who are actually roaming the hospital hallways for no good reason 
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Disnesquick posted:Gotta say, trolling Guardian CIF as a Tory True Patriot is a lot of fun. At this point I'm pretty sure all the supposed Russian Propaganda Bots are just also bitter socialists. I'm now picturing little bits of code now being very depressed and angry.
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Apr 20, 2020 06:48
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Ms Adequate posted:I'm grudgingly forced to admit that makes sense and that there probably are an abundance of plonkers out there who are actually roaming the hospital hallways for no good reason And not to scare-monger, but hasn’t there been a spate of people walking into hospitals, picking up tubs of hand sanatizer/PPE that are lying around and leaving with it? Like I can see why security in hospitals would want to be more vigilante.
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Apr 20, 2020 07:37
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The Question IRL posted:Like I can see why security in hospitals would want to be more vigilante. Is that what happens when G4S isn't privatised enough?
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Apr 20, 2020 07:44
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The Question IRL posted:And not to scare-monger, but hasn’t there been a spate of people walking into hospitals, picking up tubs of hand sanatizer/PPE that are lying around and leaving with it? Forget lying around, people were literally ripping them off the walls.
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Apr 20, 2020 07:46
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blunt posted:but but but Oh thank god, larger funerals and enhanched sanitation in time for my birthday! The summer is saved!
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Apr 20, 2020 08:02
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Ms Adequate posted:I'm grudgingly forced to admit that makes sense and that there probably are an abundance of plonkers out there who are actually roaming the hospital hallways for no good reason Not quite "for no reason" but certainly "for no good reason", Barts used to be a really useful short-cut between Cheapside and Farringdon for me and on more than one occasion I've taken a long-cut to the 24 hour McDonalds and the bus stop through the Royal London so I can take the inevitable "cold air has awoken my bladder" piss on the way home from the pub near work. It's weird but thinking about the times I'd just casually walk though a hospital seems even further away than the rather grimmer and further-away times when I learned these short-cuts though them due to having a good reason for being there.
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Apr 20, 2020 08:15
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Apparently the government has spat its dummy out and is "refusing to cooperate" with some of the rags because of "unfair and biased reporting" L, and I cannot stress this enough; MAO. goddamnedtwisto posted:Not quite "for no reason" but certainly "for no good reason", Barts used to be a really useful short-cut between Cheapside and Farringdon for me and on more than one occasion I've taken a long-cut to the 24 hour McDonalds and the bus stop through the Royal London so I can take the inevitable "cold air has awoken my bladder" piss on the way home from the pub near work. I'm slightly in awe of the notion that you could build an entire hospital the way the poundland in boro center is built (as the shortest route to the bus station)
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Apr 20, 2020 08:16
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Thing is the sun will have got that from somewhere. It seems that the hawks are leaking hard to the press to manufacture outrage that people can't get back to their boozy summer plans just because some olds and disableds who were going to die anyway will die. The confused messaging between the government line and the papers will eventually allow them to release the lockdown because that is what the people want. In the same way that if a toddler wants to play with an air rifle you let them
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Apr 20, 2020 08:17
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CancerCakes posted:Thing is the sun will have got that from somewhere. It seems that the hawks are leaking hard to the press to manufacture outrage that people can't get back to their boozy summer plans just because some olds and disableds who were going to die anyway will die. The confused messaging between the government line and the papers will eventually allow them to release the lockdown because that is what the people want. In the same way that if a toddler wants to play with an air rifle you let them Exactly this. They're briefing that it won't be until christmas, so that when they release it (too) early they're once again doing what the people want. The Tories will get another bump in the polls (probably negating any issues when deaths pass x number) and Kier will do a face.
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Apr 20, 2020 08:58
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OwlFancier posted:Apparently the government has spat its dummy out and is "refusing to cooperate" with some of the rags because of "unfair and biased reporting" Well, hospitals are basically mini-cities of health, and can cover a vast area with multiple entrances and exits. It's kind of not surprising, presuming you can pass through fully one end and out the other. It doesn't happen that often, though.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:03
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Apraxin posted:The Sun Gonzo McFee posted:The Sun OwlFancier posted:The Sun. CancerCakes posted:the sun
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Apr 20, 2020 09:05
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OwlFancier posted:I'm slightly in awe of the notion that you could build an entire hospital the way the poundland in boro center is built (as the shortest route to the bus station) The Royal London is loving *huge* - the main building is up in the top-right corner, but everything in that pink area is hospital buildings, including two pubs (although one's now a coffee shop because of course it is). It's basically a small town on its own - the student and nurses housing alone have a population of about 8k. It's pretty much impossible to have a night out in Whitechapel without technically walking "through" it, but like I say I'd deliberately divert to use the bogs in the main building for both convenience and the symbolism of going for a piss in the physical representation of New Labour pissing my money up the wall on massive PFI boondoggles. It was also literally all fields when they built it:  40 acres of peaceful countryside almost a mile out of town, just the place for peaceful convalescence.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:21
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Bloodly posted:Well, hospitals are basically mini-cities of health, and can cover a vast area with multiple entrances and exits. It's kind of not surprising, presuming you can pass through fully one end and out the other. It doesn't happen that often, though. Sure, it's just a weird contrast with the only building I've had that happen with being a poundland 
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Apr 20, 2020 09:26
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Nothing like a 20 minute long interview with Tony Blair on the Victoria Derbyshire programme to wake you up in the morning.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:26
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frankenbeans posted:A few pages back someone asked about recommended hair clippers and I don't think there was an answer. The answer is Wahl. Make sure you buy a mains one, as you only need your clippers to stop mid-cut once to never use a rechargable again. Plus the mains one has got some balls, and will cut through anything. this is the worst advice the dragging cable just gets in the way and makes cutting your hair much more difficult than it needs to be. you just plug the battery one in to charge before you start cutting and never have to worry about it running out. it’s a non-issue. like out of one of those “there must be an easier way” infomercials. Wahl’s a good brand though. you got that right. will last a lifetime.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The Royal London is loving *huge* - the main building is up in the top-right corner, but everything in that pink area is hospital buildings, including two pubs (although one's now a coffee shop because of course it is). It's basically a small town on its own - the student and nurses housing alone have a population of about 8k. It's pretty much impossible to have a night out in Whitechapel without technically walking "through" it, but like I say I'd deliberately divert to use the bogs in the main building for both convenience and the symbolism of going for a piss in the physical representation of New Labour pissing my money up the wall on massive PFI boondoggles. I suppose in time that could happen with james cook, which is similarly gigantic and has its own train station, but it's situated just off a major road and we're not so built up yet that you would ever want to go through it, it doesn't connect on the other side.
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OwlFancier posted:Sure, it's just a weird contrast with the only building I've had that happen with being a poundland In fairness a) it's not like they designed it that way, they actually made it a slightly less-convenient shortcut between Whitechapel and Wapping than the old building was and b) I had to go out of my way to pass through the main building. The Barts shortcut is probably better-known just because of the weird laid-out-by-Saxon-desire-lines road layout of the City with the finest post-war urban planning making the western edge of the City one of the most confusing places on Earth to navigate as a pedestrian so everyone who lives/works around there has a cabby level of knowledge of every weird little side-street, alleyway and church yard so they don't have to go 15 minutes out of their way just to get to the good cafes around Smithfield.
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I know it's The S*n and gently caress that rag, but there aren't going to be any pubs if they're all locked down til Xmas, there's a ton of independents struggling to make it til July because landlords/business rates are screwing them right over.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:36
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London chat is always about getting to other bits of London because you're never quite in the right bit of London and all there is is London.
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Apr 20, 2020 09:37
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HJB posted:Nothing like a 20 minute long interview with Tony Blair on the Victoria Derbyshire programme to wake you up in the morning. goddamnedtwisto posted:laid-out-by-Saxon-desire-lines road layout          
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I mean it's all bullshit but school holidays aren't like a set in stone immutable reality? Teachers and kids are still working since the shutdown. So to shift the summer holidays, you'd need to stretch the academic year out longer than the 40weeks agreed in regulations, union agreements, employment contracts etc... Further complications include the sneaky some schools are pulling - employing teachers until term ends July then rehiring for Sept starts. Not exactly immutable but it's going to be a huge effort behind the scenes to attempt. -- But if there ever was an opportunity to start freash and refit the academic year into a better timeframe of more breaks and shorter summer holidays, the 2020/21 year is it
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Goldskull posted:I know it's The S*n and gently caress that rag, but there aren't going to be any pubs if they're all locked down til Xmas, there's a ton of independents struggling to make it til July because landlords/business rates are screwing them right over. there's going to be a load of properties going for cheap that are perfect for use as a pub, you say?
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Apr 20, 2020 09:50
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I'm sure it's a completely coincidental and unintended consequence of this policy that arch-brexiteer and Tory donor Tim Martin is suddenly about to have a lot less competition
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Apr 20, 2020 09:53
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OwlFancier posted:Sure, it's just a weird contrast with the only building I've had that happen with being a poundland Back in my day, it was Virgin Megastore. I worked there and the amount of pissed up chavs you'd get barreling through, open bottles of bellabrusco in hand, was ridiculous. One particularly horrendous specimen once actually dropped a carrier bag full of bella right in the middle of the store, it practically flooded us out and the stench, oh god the stench. You'd swear bellabrusco was made from piss and vinegar.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Back in my day, it was Virgin Megastore. I worked there and the amount of pissed up chavs you'd get barreling through, open bottles of bellabrusco in hand, was ridiculous. It did used to be a virgin yes lol, I think it might have still been when I was at uni. And yes everyone using it as a pavement and the general state of the town center does make it a bit of a pain to work in
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Apr 20, 2020 09:57
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Dabir posted:there's going to be a load of properties going for cheap that are perfect for use as a pub, you say? A lot of people in the pub industry are worried that this is going to wipe out free houses. The concern is that they don't have the reserves or support to survive this, and the large pubcos with the cash reserves or credit facilities to do so are going to rush in and buy the lot at firesale prices.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:01
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Coohoolin posted:Corbyn not only let explicit wreckers go un-purged, he personally intervened to save and protect one of their leaders. He would have done jack poo poo about the press. he should’ve hired price harry to do their media strategy
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Apr 20, 2020 10:02
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Soylent Yellow posted:A lot of people in the pub industry are worried that this is going to wipe out free houses. The concern is that they don't have the reserves or support to survive this, and the large pubcos with the cash reserves or credit facilities to do so are going to rush in and buy the lot at firesale prices. anyone know how to check how many tory MPs have shares in major pubcos
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Apr 20, 2020 10:04
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I assume the obliteration of independent businesses is the the point, yes.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:29
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Dabir posted:anyone know how to check how many tory MPs have shares in major pubcos Do you need to? I think you can safely assume it's most of them. Several are big Tory donors, too. Tim Martin of Wetherspoons infamy regularly gives the Tories the odd 50 grand he finds down the back of the sofa, and is undoubtedly one of those lobbying hard at the moment for an early reopening speedrun.
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Apr 20, 2020 10:37
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I wonder how the myth of the tories being the party of the small businessperson will endure after they kill them all. I mean it's a lie to begin with but it's gonna be extra weird.
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Catching up 10 pages as I took the weekend totally offline:namesake posted:Please be extremely cautious about leaping into home working with both feet at the business level without thinking it through. What in practice are you doing? You're removing significant office space costs from the business and putting them on the individual - not everyone will be able to simply have a spare room to use as an office There are also tax & business rates implications if you have a dedicated room for work at home Barry Foster posted:Yeah, fair. I suppose there's a difference between trying to show solidarity and throwing yourself into the woodchipper pointlessly. We still have places near me where people have not yet been able to move back into their homes from the OCTOBER 2019 floods let alone the February ones, and the local allotments near the river are fairly devastated still (I passed one on a walk last week where 3 people whose allotment it was were just standing looking hopelessly at the devastation - destroyed green house etc), don't know if there is any situation like that near you where you could offer your services? Prism Mirror Lens posted:Ok there are downsides to WFH, but I’d rather work at my dining table and dial into some evening meetings that I don’t actually attend because my webcam/mic are off, than have to commute in ever again. There was a thing on facebook a couple of days ago - someone caught her 10 year old daughter NOT taking part in the zoom call (which was on the computer) and doing other stuff instead - when asked why, the kid said something along the lines of - there's 20 of us in a gallery, I've substituted a photo of me looking alert and concentrating for the camera - the teacher will never know. Isomermaid posted:This reminds me of the Guardian's piece on how to bake when you are missing one or more ingredients and I looked at it cos I thought, OK, that might be interesting, we're low on flour and my girlfriend can't get hold of eggs right now. And yeah, it's peak Guardian, it's all, "no flour? No problem, just substitute ground quinoa" and a bunch of twee ingredients that OF COURSE we've all got knocking about on our shelves. About 25 years ago when I bought my first flat and had zero stuff of my own, I considered buying a Habitat 'full home of stuff' kit for a single person. Listed under kitchen essentials was 'garlic press'. I can number the times I have ever considered using a garlic press on the sticking up fingers of one fully clenched fist. If I am planning on eating a meal with garlic in it, I'm in a restaurant. Sod that. The list was full of useless 'essentials'. i am harry posted:A return to science-based leadership according to the tories. By emphasising 'following the science' they're obviously setting up 'scientists' (ie 'experts') to take the rap when things go pear-shaped so they can sort of smear over brexshit and the disdain for 'experts'. (Don't ask me to elaborate, this is an ill-formed thought just now!)
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