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punk rebel ecks posted:The Nintendo 64 is one of the most overrated consoles ever. It has a very frontloaded library. which are the top dozen titles, even? i can think of maybe 3 or 4 good N64 games, none of them are by rare and two of them are basically 2D. the n64 was awful.
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Shibawanko posted:city 17 was still a very jarring change in setting from the first HL game that I still don't like. the way the vortigaunts worship gordon doesn't make any real sense, since he slaughtered them indiscriminately and it feels weird that they treat him like he's their best friend When Half Life 2 came out I would have sworn they were setting up the series to be some kind of multi-universe Twin Peaks style training simulation deal, with time shifts and location changes and plot twists that make next to no sense. Turns out that nope, it was all just retcons.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:29
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Dewgy posted:When Half Life 2 came out I would have sworn they were setting up the series to be some kind of multi-universe Twin Peaks style training simulation deal, with time shifts and location changes and plot twists that make next to no sense. they just wanted to make a 1984 game and wedged some HL characters into it, it's weird when you think about how little from HL has really been preserved, except for the g-man, gordon, the crowbar weapon, headcrabs and barnacles. thats basically it. they didnt even preserve the einstein looking scientist
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Apr 21, 2020 18:33
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Gonna try my best here... Super Mario 64 Mario Party Smash Bros Goldeneye Rogue Squadron Starfox 64 Ocarina of Time Majora's Mask Mario Kart 64 There's probably a few more but I think that's most of the ones that folks agree are "good games". I personally liked Bomberman and Wetrix as well.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:33
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Chomp8645 posted:Gonna try my best here... I have a soft spot for mario 64, i could tolerate mario kart and smash bros but i don't think they're very interesting games that really stand out, maybe blast corps is good? I kind of don't think the other games on that list are any good, including the zelda ones.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:35
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Shibawanko posted:city 17 was still a very jarring change in setting from the first HL game that I still don't like. the way the vortigaunts worship gordon doesn't make any real sense, since he slaughtered them indiscriminately and it feels weird that they treat him like he's their best friend In HL1 they were enslaved until Gordon popped the Nihilanths stupid big head, so it's not too surprising that they like him.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:37
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Paper Mario and DK64 probably belong too.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:39
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sinky posted:In HL1 they were enslaved until Gordon popped the Nihilanths stupid big head, so it's not too surprising that they like him. yeah but unless i'm remembering wrong, all of that is stuff that seems to have been invented as part of the backstory of HL2, in the first game the vorts were called "alien slave" in the files and had bracers on, but that's the only kind of hint you get that they're a complete slave race instead of just generic hostile aliens. HL2 doesn't even really do a good job of explaining why they love him now, it never mentions the nihilanth ingame so when I first played it i was like "huh why is this alien guy being friendly now"
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Apr 21, 2020 18:41
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Shibawanko posted:I have a soft spot for mario 64, i could tolerate mario kart and smash bros but i don't think they're very interesting games that really stand out, maybe blast corps is good? I kind of don't think the other games on that list are any good, including the zelda ones. Most likely the list you assumes you were a child when those games came out, and played them around that time. If that's the case and you still didn't like them, then you just hate fun or something!
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Apr 21, 2020 18:44
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Ocarina of Time: not a good game I think most of the stuff from that period has aged terribly but everything on that list was great when it came out. I'd still rather play Mario Kart 64 over any of the others.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:48
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The Moon Monster posted:Ocarina of Time: not a good game unironically agreed, though
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Apr 21, 2020 18:49
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Shibawanko posted:yeah but unless i'm remembering wrong, all of that is stuff that seems to have been invented as part of the backstory of HL2, in the first game the vorts were called "alien slave" in the files and had bracers on, but that's the only kind of hint you get that they're a complete slave race instead of just generic hostile aliens. HL2 doesn't even really do a good job of explaining why they love him now, it never mentions the nihilanth ingame so when I first played it i was like "huh why is this alien guy being friendly now" It's all clearly explained by that one vortigaunt that's hidden in a tunnel on the speedboat mission  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgIgPyDxkpg But yeah I don't think there's anything in HL1 about it.
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The Moon Monster posted:Ocarina of Time: not a good game Mario Kart 64 was the last Mario Kart that really hooked me. Double Dash felt a bit gimmicky and MK8 on the Switch having the customization stuff just completely lost me.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:51
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Shibawanko posted:which are the top dozen titles, even? i can think of maybe 3 or 4 good N64 games, none of them are by rare and two of them are basically 2D. the n64 was awful. Super Mario 64 Ocarina of Time Doom 64 Majora's Mask GoldenEye Perfect Dark Banjo Kazooie Ogre Battle 64 Sin & Punishment Banjo Tooie Star Fox 64 Mischief Makers I can think of very few other quality titles for the system. I guess Bangai-O, Paper Mario, and Conker. I really disliked Mario Kart 64. Again not TERRIBLE but compare that to the PlayStation's endless library the Nintendo 64 seems to be more comparable to the Saturn (and an underdog still). punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Apr 21, 2020 18:52
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HL2 should have shown the invasion of the combine, that would have actually been pretty cool to see. The first game started out on a really strong note by first showing normality (the scientists working in the lab) followed by this big catastrophe and aliens invading and everybody going apeshit. sequel should've been set after the resonance cascade ended, with some kind of introduction followed by the combine being alerted to the existence of Earth because of the actions of the player and sending a giant army through a portal or something
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Apr 21, 2020 18:56
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punk rebel ecks posted:Super Mario 64 Star Wars Episode 1 Racer was also an N64 exclusive (for that gen, at least, I think it came out on Dreamcast later) that was shockingly good. I’d put Jet Force Gemini on there even if the endgame was “needs a guide to actually complete” type poo poo. Blast Corps was also a classic. Body Harvest wasn’t perfect but it was a game that did things you wouldn’t really see anywhere else til the PS2 gen and was pretty drat good.
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Apr 21, 2020 18:59
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rogue squadron as well
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mischief makers is pretty good but the fact that it keeps ending up on "best of" lists for the n64 is tremendously damning for the console imo e: and as i'm posting this my n64 is sitting like, fifteen feet away, with mischief makers in it, so i'm not like talking outta my rear end here Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Apr 21, 2020 |
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Shibawanko posted:HL2 should have shown the invasion of the combine, that would have actually been pretty cool to see. The first game started out on a really strong note by first showing normality (the scientists working in the lab) followed by this big catastrophe and aliens invading and everybody going apeshit. sequel should've been set after the resonance cascade ended, with some kind of introduction followed by the combine being alerted to the existence of Earth because of the actions of the player and sending a giant army through a portal or something Nope It was cool that they for once bypassed that and we just started on already conquered earth. That was basically the best part of HL2, exploring the new earth under the rule of the mysterious aliens and how they had systematically broken down humanity piece by piece
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food court bailiff posted:mischief makers is pretty good but the fact that it keeps ending up on "best of" lists for the n64 is tremendously damning for the console imo Pretty much. The Nintendo 64 is like "Wii quality", a system that while has some killer titles (Super Mario Galaxy, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Sin & Punishment 2), has a pretty average library as a whole. Though to be fair comparing those systems is a bit apples and oranges.
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food court bailiff posted:mischief makers is pretty good but the fact that it keeps ending up on "best of" lists for the n64 is tremendously damning for the console imo mischief makers is the third best game by treasure on the n64. it might be the treasure game i like the least overall of the ones i've played. if you bought ogre battle 64, and it was your favorite game on the system, you clearly should've bought a saturn or a ps1 instead.
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Chomp8645 posted:Gonna try my best here... you forgot Resident Evil 2
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Do you all live in some extra Hellworld where Wave Race was never released or what?
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Do you all live in some extra Hellworld where Wave Race was never released or what? Or Star Wars Pod Racer? Or F-Zero X!?!
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If I had to go back and play a console from that generation it would be the 64. Yeah the Playstation had way more games but they've mostly aged just as bad or worse. Playing a 90s era jrpg in 2020 is a major exercise in frustration.
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Apr 22, 2020 01:36
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N64 has smash and Mario Kart and 4 controller ports. I don’t see how that can just be ignored unless ... goons either have no friends or bad taste or broth. PS1 also had great games but the signal to noise ratio was through the roof. You hang out with a kid who had a 64 you’re almost guaranteed some fun. PS1 you might just be watching them play Gran Turismo and waiting to be picked up.
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The N64 library was dire and theres no way Id give up a console with a non-stop cavalcade of cross genre hits and quirky gems as well as the superior version of every multi-plat for a system that is 1/3rd racing games by volume. But at least you arent a saturn owner.
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the n64 is the only console in the running for people with 3 hands
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Paper Mario is unquestionably the best N64 game, Mario Kart 64 is the worst Mario Kart except maybe the GBA one, and Paper Mario 64 is better than Thousand Year Door.
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well why not posted:N64 has... 4 controller ports.  Best console ever made for this reason alone until gamecube and the xbox came along.
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punk rebel ecks posted:The Nintendo 64 is one of the most overrated consoles ever. It has a very frontloaded library. harvest moon 64, hybrid heaven, majora's mask... it was a SHOVELWARE system. but it was by no means heavily front loaded Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:mischief makers is the third best game by treasure on the n64. it might be the treasure game i like the least overall of the ones i've played. i never had ogre battle 64 as a kid but it was pretty good. it lacked one important thing, though: random loot. the whole gamebreaking-side appeal of march of the black queen was that you could get a sorcerer or a even princess in the second stage (first stage if you were playing the ps1 remaster), and then you had to rein them in and strictly ration your deployment of them or you would accidentally make a useless evil princess unit Fur20 fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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3dO is superior to all other consoles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-40q-WCkm4. Oh I forgot about Uncle Fez. It's fine play Pataank instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DugjTiR8zl4
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I love the dumb little joystick on the N64 controller that feels like a robots nipple, and a poorly constructed robot at that
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The only people who love the N64 were the ones who had it as children. It aged like garbage. Of any relevant system, it is now pretty much the worst. Relevant systems: NES SNES N64 GC Wii Wii U Xbox 360 PS1 PS2 PS3 Master System Saturn Dreamcast TG16 The only system on that list that is arguably as bad is the Saturn. There isn't even an argument between the N64 and any of those other systems. They all have much better libraries and/or are better to play on. The only things keeping the N64s head above water are SM64, MK64, OoT and Smash. All are seminal titles.
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I didn't think anyone would argue the N64 had a big library of worthwhile games. But then again, pretty much all of the ones worth playing have been remade on bettter consoles. Even the 360 ports of Banjo.
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Waltzing Along posted:The only things keeping the N64s head above water are SM64, MK64, OoT and Smash. All are seminal titles. Almost everything that was good on the N64 ended up with a game that was about as good or much better on the Gamecube (e.g. Smash bros melee vs. Smash, Super Mario Sunshine vs. Super Mario 64, Double Dash vs. Mario Kart, Wind Waker vs. OOT, F-Zero GX vs. F-Zero X, Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door vs. Paper Mario.) I bought a Wii primarily to play smash bros. brawl, and I ended up using it mostly to play Gamecube games.
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Speaking of unpopular or at least weird opinions: Super Mario Odyssey seems to take a ton of ideas in structure and tone from Banjo-Kazooie.
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Banjo Kazooie is mostly just collecting for the sake of collecting, its a pretty lame game.
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