|
RIP the post office
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 04:40 |
|
|
Dapper_Swindler posted:doesnt this go to the house next? i am sure they will add good stuff. yeah gently caress the dems but senate dems dont have real leverage so lol we were hosed anyway. I don't see them holding energy companies in any real hardass way because oil fell off a cliff and a lot of Dem heavy sectors like education wrapped themselves up in oil. I just want USPS to get the relief they deserve.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:28
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/Timothy_Cama/status/1252651330667249665 https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1252676451595440134 https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1252675823666180096
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:31
|
|
|
Nonsense posted:I don't see them holding energy companies in any real hardass way because oil fell off a cliff and a lot of Dem heavy sectors like education wrapped themselves up in oil. I just want USPS to get the relief they deserve. I want this too, but the USPS has been a fav whipping boy for the GOP that I dont see that happening when they control the senate.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:32
|
|
|
Nonsense posted:I don't see them holding energy companies in any real hardass way because oil fell off a cliff and a lot of Dem heavy sectors like education wrapped themselves up in oil. I just want USPS to get the relief they deserve. yeah. the article paints a slightly better picture and it is the senate dems(so i am not surprised at this, if it were the house id be mad) so we might get a refill on PPP and testing maybe. i heard futures are super duper hosed now?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:32
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1252675823666180096 [/quote] If I recall rightly the legislation has a clause preventing him from doing so.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:33
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:If I recall rightly the legislation has a clause preventing him from doing so. he's asking himself for rent relief unconnected to the official bailout money. the federal government leases him the building for his dc hotel.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:37
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:If I recall rightly the legislation has a clause preventing him from doing so.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:39
|
|
|
What happened to the lawsuit claiming that lease was invalidated by his failing some kind of good character clause in it?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:39
|
|
|
If Trump's a billionaire, why would he need rent relief? 
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:49
|
|
|
Bubbacub posted:If Trump's a billionaire, why would he need rent relief? Same reason WWE fired people even as they stood to report massive profits and ditched the big expense that was the XFL. Want number go up.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:51
|
|
|
Kale posted:It's legitimately terrifying to me how many every day people just believe anything they read that sounds sensational enough without even cross comparing it with other sources to see if there's an existing real world narrative and situation that's basis for it all. Like what a golden age for tabloids and conspiracy theorist wack jobs. There's a guy I work with that literally just immediately believes any crazy wacky conspiracy being pushed on the internet. Like it doesn't matter what it is, where it's coming from or what evidence there is, if it exists and especially if Joe Rogan has the guy on his show to talk about he just out and out believes in it and tries to talk to people at work about it to get their opinions but also try to convince them of it. Like I can see considering conspiracy theories a matter of curiosity and coming at them from that perspective, but the just IMMEDIATELY believing in it thing based on pure hearsay thing and knowing that he's far from the only person that absorbs and vets (or really not at all) information that way concerns me. Hilariously, CNN now has an "analysis" on their front page explaining why it's actually ok that they fell for tabloid-sourced bullshit: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/asia/kim-jong-un-health-analysis-intl-hnk/index.html
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:52
|
|
|
Really love how when multinationals demand rent cuts it is smart business but when residential tenants demand rent cuts it is a desecration of the sanctity of the almighty contract they signed.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:54
|
|
|
Why is Chuck allowed to be in charge?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 20:56
|
|
|
Uncle Wemus posted:Why is Chuck allowed to be in charge? Because he is really good at his job
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:04
|
|
|
Uncle Wemus posted:Why is Chuck allowed to be in charge? I know Republicans are completely brain damaged and scream about "DEBT!!!" just as much as centrist idiot dems, but what the gently caress are they being stingy about? What "emergency" are they waiting for where massive government spending is warranted? It is a loving emergency, we are in a global pandemic. What more do these loving lunatics need to go into "fighting Depression" mode spending?!  Also holy poo poo are our fascists stupid. Responding to this crisis in a timely, efficient, and seemingly caring matter would lock in Trump and the GOP for years to come with a grateful populace, and he could rant about immigrants all he wanted if he just took this crisis seriously and protected Americans, but holy gently caress they want to pinch pennies while people die and starve in droves. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Apr 21, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:05
|
|
|
TulliusCicero posted:I know Republicans are completely brain damaged and scream about "DEBT!!!" just as much as centrist idiot dems, but what the gently caress are they being stingy about? What emergency as re they waiting for where massive government spending is warranted? It is a loving emergency, we are in as global pandemic. That is our only hope, that they and the dems gently caress this up enough that people who actually give a minute poo poo about the common folk can take charge
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:07
|
|
|
Remember that the Republican view of the New Deal is not "rescued the country from economic demise and mass suffering" but rather "created a bunch of taxes and spending programs that have proven almost impossible to get rid of".
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:07
|
|
|
haveblue posted:Remember that the Republican view of the New Deal is not "rescued the country from economic demise and mass suffering" but rather "created a bunch of taxes and spending programs that have proven almost impossible to get rid of". The trendy thing to do in the late 90s and early 00s was to say it actually made things worse.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:11
|
|
|
TulliusCicero posted:Also holy poo poo are our fascists stupid. Responding to this crisis in a timely, efficient, and seemingly caring matter would lock in Trump and the GOP for years to come with a grateful populace, and he could rant about immigrants all he wanted if he just took this crisis seriously and protected Americans, but holy gently caress they want to pinch pennies while people die and starve in droves. its because fascists arnt really that smart. more often they get lucky or various stuff falls into place. trump is an espically dumb facist as are american fascists in general mostly because of the ayn rand/fygm type bullshit and not being about to even fake populist poo poo. like even the bannon/fucker carlson types are stupid as gently caress and spew the overt race poo poo way to hard.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:11
|
|
|
evilweasel posted:This study may not be any good (there's still no reason to believe the drug is good, but you need to be careful on this stuff). Basically, it's not an actual clinical trial and has confounding factors. the study explicitly says that even when they controlled for the worse condition that people getting H/H+A were in, the hydroxychloroquin still had a significant increase in mortality (and the H+A had an increase in mortality that was not statistically significant) i mean it definitely would be dumb if they hadn't considered that very obvious thing the TPM reader is pointing out, but it appears they did consider that
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:13
|
|
|
Mooseontheloose posted:The trendy thing to do in the late 90s and early 00s was to say it actually made things worse. And as with so many things, the self-serving lies right-wing talk show hosts and off-the-record Republican politicians told the rubes in the 1990s just got repeated again and again until we got a Congress and White House that earnestly believes them.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:16
|
|
|
Dapper_Swindler posted:its because fascists arnt really that smart. more often they get lucky or various stuff falls into place. trump is an espically dumb facist as are american fascists in general mostly because of the ayn rand/fygm type bullshit and not being about to even fake populist poo poo. like even the bannon/fucker carlson types are stupid as gently caress and spew the overt race poo poo way to hard. I would argue the Japanese Imperial military in the 1920s-30s responded to the economic and natural disaster crises of the people far better than the civilian government did, which solidified their control, weakened liberal opposition, and put the people squarely on the side of the hardliners. Yeah they fell into an opportunity but they certainly took the most they could out of it. They were evil fuckers, but they saw how showing efficiency and order to a populace in dire straits was powerful. American fascists are loving lazy rich fucks who won't even try to run things efficiently, and they still get 30-35% of the vote by default. This country is absurd On another sad note: So sorry for your loss Friendbot 
TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 21, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:17
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:I have been largely absent from this forum lately because I have been burying bodies. Bodies of my heroes. Right now I am up to 5 and I expect that it will grow more and more. I bring this up because I need people to understand that hoping CHUDs all die from the virus ignores the fact that our side dies too. This virus doesn't loving care who you vote for, what sports teams you root for, or what ice cream flavor is your favorite. I am so tired of burying bodies of the Old Guard and a part of me is afraid that there aren't enough of people like me to take their place. I am making this post to honor the activists we lost this past month and a half: Condolences and thanks for the great post. You’re right - human life can’t be quantified. nobody should be cheering for the deaths of anyone. You’re doing good work. keep it up
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:19
|
|
|
Mooseontheloose posted:The trendy thing to do in the late 90s and early 00s was to say it actually made things worse. Don't forget, it wasn't that socialist Roosevelt that got us out of the Great Depression, but American entry into World War II  ... what's that? We're being told that entry coincided with an unprecedented influx of government spending and widespread availability of good paying federal jobs? cut to commercial CUT TO COMMERICAL
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:22
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:I have been largely absent from this forum lately because I have been burying bodies. Bodies of my heroes. Right now I am up to 5 and I expect that it will grow more and more. I bring this up because I need people to understand that hoping CHUDs all die from the virus ignores the fact that our side dies too. This virus doesn't loving care who you vote for, what sports teams you root for, or what ice cream flavor is your favorite. I am so tired of burying bodies of the Old Guard and a part of me is afraid that there aren't enough of people like me to take their place. I am making this post to honor the activists we lost this past month and a half: I'm going to put down my Switch and get back to the volunteer work I can do from home that I stopped doing because I was busy sulking. Thank you.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:23
|
|
|
Acebuckeye13 posted:Don't forget, it wasn't that socialist Roosevelt that got us out of the Great Depression, but American entry into World War II They also don't like to talk about how Harry S. Truman made it his personal mission to root out graft and war profiteering during that time as well.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:23
|
|
|
Hey, has there been any updates about the emergency oil bill that Mitch wanted to pass today? Did it get through the house?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:35
|
|
|
evilweasel posted:he's asking himself for rent relief unconnected to the official bailout money. the federal government leases him the building for his dc hotel. That would be the lease that explicitly says that the renter cannot be a federal employee, correct?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:37
|
|
|
Cpt_Obvious posted:Hey, has there been any updates about the emergency oil bill that Mitch wanted to pass today? Did it get through the house? I thought the house and Senate was in recess barring an "emergency"
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:41
|
|
|
Koalas March posted:I thought the house and Senate was in recess barring an "emergency" Apparently "possible global depression and ongoing pandemic" don't register as emergencies to the ruling class
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:46
|
|
|
eke out posted:the study explicitly says that even when they controlled for the worse condition that people getting H/H+A were in, the hydroxychloroquin still had a significant increase in mortality (and the H+A had an increase in mortality that was not statistically significant) I'm 100% talking out my rear end here, but isn't it basically impossible that an existing drug would just happen to work on a novel virus? Like isn't the whole idea of a virus vaccine that it's something specifically tuned to the virus' unique genetic signature (because it's made from the virus itself), and so any preexisting "vaccine" is patently guaranteed not to work on it? Unless you're just talking about palliatives and symptom treatments? Antibiotics work across a range of bacterial strains because they operate on the bacteria's microbiology, interfere with protein absorption, that sort of thing. So it's possible that your existing antibiotics will work on a new bacteria that pops up. But a virus isn't like that. Right?
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:46
|
|
|
Koalas March posted:I thought the house and Senate was in recess barring an "emergency" From what CNN says the plan is a pro forma session which doesn't require most of them to meet in person. Part of how those work is that it's really easy for anyone who seriously objects to derail the whole thing, which is why you won't see anything remotely bold or controversial.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:48
|
|
|
Killer robot posted:From what CNN says the plan is a pro forma session which doesn't require most of them to meet in person. Part of how those work is that it's really easy for anyone who seriously objects to derail the whole thing, which is why you won't see anything remotely bold or controversial.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:51
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1252701399755952128 Curious to see if Paul will stick to his guns or if this is yet another instance of Paul grumbling before voting along.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:55
|
|
|
Someone stuff Paul into a locker.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:55
|
|
|
TulliusCicero posted:I know Republicans are completely brain damaged and scream about "DEBT!!!" just as much as centrist idiot dems, but what the gently caress are they being stingy about? What "emergency" are they waiting for where massive government spending is warranted? It is a loving emergency, we are in a global pandemic. I am routinely shocked by the stupidity of conservatives. I know I shouldn't be, but I can't help it. Can you imagine if the Republicans touted and passed real socialist help for everyday people? 2k a month for everyone, stopping rent and mortgage payments, etc. etc. The election is coming up and they're running out of things that they can point to that they're doing to help. As far as I'm concerned, Trump is just following in the footsteps of all of his Republican predecessors by wrecking the economy once again. Highest unemployment numbers in recorded history, biggest market losses, the biggest, the best, and it's all because of Trump. Edit: Trump Trump Trump. Coronavirus? No, Trump Trump Trump. Coronavirus? Yes, Trump Trump Trump. Trump Trump Trump trumghp
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 21:59
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/bylenasun/status/1252693423628398596?s=19
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 22:00
|
|
|
Data Graham posted:I'm 100% talking out my rear end here, but isn't it basically impossible that an existing drug would just happen to work on a novel virus? Like isn't the whole idea of a virus vaccine that it's something specifically tuned to the virus' unique genetic signature (because it's made from the virus itself), and so any preexisting "vaccine" is patently guaranteed not to work on it? Unless you're just talking about palliatives and symptom treatments? Antivirals work on a variety of methods. It's not like every virus is using a novel method to replicate itself. It probably is using a method another virus uses which we have developed treatments for, or we may have drugs that do treat it's replication method but don't know. Rogain, the hair loss treatment, was created as a heart medication. Drugs have a variety of effects.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 22:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 04:40 |
|
|
T-minus how long until he “resigns”
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2020 22:01
|
|