|
biracial bear for uncut posted:We knew that was coming anyway yeah im planning on it not being available and if by some miracle it still exists, great.
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:29
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 09:36 |
|
|
The worst news so far is this. Copied from the CSPAM thread, I'll link too You should know. I hope they are wrong. New preprint on aerosol transmissibility of SARS-CoV-2. Methods include nebulizer studies from 4 different labs. Results are uhh... something. quote: Infectious SARS-CoV-2 was detected at all timepoints during the aerosol suspension stability experiment (Figure 2). As shown in Figure 2a, a minor but constant fraction of the SARS-CoV-2 virus maintained replication-competence at all timepoints performed, including when sampled at 16 hours of aerosol suspension. This resulted in a remarkably flat decay curve when measured for infectivity, and failed to provide a biological half-life ... Scanning electron microscopy (SEM) imaging of SARS-CoV-2 revealed virions that were heterogenous in shape, either ovoid (Figure 3A) or spherical (Figure 3B). The minor:major axis ratio of oval-shaped virions was approximately 0.7, which is consistent with prior SEM analyses of SARS-CoV-2. Airborne SARS-CoV-2 maintained the expected morphologies, size and aspect ratios up to 16 hours. Specifically, virions aged for 10 min (Figure 3C, D) or 16 hours (Figure 3E, F) were similar in shape and general appearance to virions examined prior to aerosolization, which is consistent with the retention of replication-competence. ... These data suggest that SARS-CoV-2 generally maintains infectivity when airborne over short distances, in contrast to either comparator betacoronavirus. Results of the aerosol suspension experiments suggest that SARS-CoV-2 is persistent over longer periods of time than would be expected when generated as a highly respirable particle (2 μm MMAD). ... Collectively, this preliminary dataset on the aerosol efficiency and persistence of SARS-CoV-2 suggest that this virus is remarkably resilient in aerosol form, even when aged for over 12 hours, and reinforces the conclusions reached in earlier studies of aerosol fitness by others. Aerosol transmission of SARS-CoV-2, whether through direct respiratory droplet transfer or fomite generation, may in fact be a more important exposure transmission pathway than previously considered. Our approach of quantitative measurement of infectivity of viral airborne efficiency complemented by qualitative assessment of virion morphology leads us to conclude that SARS-CoV-2 is viable as an airborne pathogen.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:34
|
|
|
The link https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3918863&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1006#post504290183 The tldr is it's airborne airborne and lasts a long rear end time in the air, way way long 16 hrs?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:35
|
|
|
Spinz posted:The link I heard of a case today on the news of a child who died of COVID-19 that hadn't been outside for months and neither had her parents but there was no question of "How did she contract this?"
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:45
|
|
|
Who gives a poo poo about that stuff, how long does it live on a box of cheezits or a bag of Funyuns
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:47
|
|
|
Spinz posted:The link  we're hosed.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:48
|
|
|
ThermoPhysical posted:I heard of a case today on the news of a child who died of COVID-19 that hadn't been outside for months and neither had her parents but there was no question of "How did she contract this?" drat, an entire family that hadn’t left the house in months?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:49
|
|
|
Have scientists run any fancy computer models of what's likely to happen the way these states plan on reopening? Also seeing the tone of the comments on these "We're gunna open today!" news stories taking a turn towards really grim and likely FBI going to be investigating people over comments.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:50
|
|
|
Spinz posted:The link so basically the study made some tiny corona droplets and checked how long it took them to degrade. but it doesn't provide much insight into how common a method of transmission this is. i would think that being around someone coughing or talking, or picking the virus up from a surface would be more likely than getting it from walking into a bunch of floating virus mist e: also, it's worth pointing out that this is one study that hasn't been peer reviewed. if there were a similar study about a promising new treatment, people would be climbing over each other to point that fact out. but since this study suggests a bad thing everybody buys into it uncritically goethe.cx fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Apr 22, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:58
|
|
|
Philthy posted:Have scientists run any fancy computer models of what's likely to happen the way these states plan on reopening? What do you mean? Are the left join the insane train?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 03:59
|
|
|
Philthy posted:Have scientists run any fancy computer models of what's likely to happen the way these states plan on reopening? ShiiiiitFuuuuuckDaaaaamn.gif
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:01
|
|
|
frogge posted:
sounds like we gotta open up and let the chips fall where they may.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:10
|
|
|
goethe.cx posted:so basically the study made some tiny corona droplets and checked how long it took them to degrade. but it doesn't provide much insight into how common a method of transmission this is. i would think that being around someone coughing or talking, or picking the virus up from a surface would be more likely than getting it from walking into a bunch of floating virus mist Also, we've known since January that it's a bad idea to put Covid patients on nebulizers or CPAP machines because they aerosolized it so well
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:10
|
|
|
Spinz posted:The link I mean we know the r0 for this thing is around 3, definitely not more than like 5, and the airborne viruses that scare epidemiologists are like measles and chickenpox which have an r0 of 20
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:13
|
|
|
Im Ready for DEATH posted:sounds like we gotta open up and let the chips fall where they may. Username/post combo
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:17
|
|
|
tractor fanatic posted:I mean we know the r0 for this thing is around 3, definitely not more than like 5, and the airborne viruses that scare epidemiologists are like measles and chickenpox which have an r0 of 20 Ok., They say 5ish now I personally don't think we have tested enough to have a firm rO anyway
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:19
|
|
|
One good thing: We tried a subscription to the YMCA two years ago. The Y is popular, but my kids are super clinically ADHD, and they just couldn't handle the crowds. We signed up for classes, the classes were a mess: No communication about where to meet, frequently didn't have my kids on the signup list for classes we paid for. We signed them up for a gymnastics class which was taught by a person with their leg in a cast who constantly complained my kids were too active for them to keep up with. Going there was literally the worst experience I've had in the last 3 years, every time I went. We let our membership expire and just exercised them in the giant backyard known as Washington State with great results. My in-laws, who are cool but often give gifts that assume my kids are not developmentally delayed when it comes to busy situations, got us all YMCA memberships. Then they began complaining we never used them. I used the pandemic as a way to get them to cancel the memberships without having to bring up how it is literally my own personal Hell, which would offend them greatly for Boomer reasons, and would also require mentioning my kids' developmental delays which I don't like to do to people who actively deny they exist. So, yay pandemic, I guess? I obv feel bad saying that.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:19
|
|
|
tractor fanatic posted:I mean we know the r0 for this thing is around 3, definitely not more than like 5, and the airborne viruses that scare epidemiologists are like measles and chickenpox which have an r0 of 20 CDC says it's r0 5.7 now. I also see the major news outlets are using the CDC airborne study that showed one person sitting next to a vent/fan can infect almost everyone that it reaches. Makes sense now if this really can live that long.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:20
|
|
|
ThermoPhysical posted:I heard of a case today on the news of a child who died of COVID-19 that hadn't been outside for months and neither had her parents but there was no question of "How did she contract this?" pet pangolin
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:20
|
|
|
Cacafuego posted:drat, an entire family that hadn’t left the house in months? That raises more questions to me. Were these preppers that actually followed through staying in their bomb shelter instead of parading their brodozers around protesting over haircuts? If not, how have they been getting food if nobody has left in months? Grocery delivery? Dozens of Doordash deliveries?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:21
|
|
|
ThermoPhysical posted:I heard of a case today on the news of a child who died of COVID-19 that hadn't been outside for months and neither had her parents but there was no question of "How did she contract this?" they hadn't been outside, but presumably they had people delivering things to them
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:21
|
|
|
Sir Not Appearing posted:That raises more questions to me. Were these preppers that actually followed through staying in their bomb shelter instead of parading their brodozers around protesting over haircuts? It’s pretty easily achievable if you don’t smoke. I presume they at least go in their yard. Because yeah
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:25
|
|
|
edit : NVM I think I am just having a panic attack, sorry about that.
Bleusilences fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Apr 22, 2020 |
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:28
|
|
|
I’ve been to the grocery store once in the last five weeks and could easily go another five without a trip and am not a prepper in any way, just have a big freezer and a wife that likes to keep a full pantry.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:28
|
|
|
My construction job laid me off today anddonated me a 3M half-mask and a few dozen N95 filters since they knew I’d be working ambulance shifts twice a week.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:30
|
|
|
Ugly In The Morning posted:My construction job laid me off today anddonated me a 3M half-mask and a few dozen N95 filters since they knew I’d be working ambulance shifts twice a week. Sorry dude. Are they just stopping or slowing down construction?
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:33
|
|
|
Bleusilences posted:edit : NVM I think I am just having a panic attack, sorry about that. Sent you a pm Hang in there and lol your av is cute as hell!!
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:42
|
|
|
bird with big dick posted:I’ve been to the grocery store once in the last five weeks and could easily go another five without a trip and am not a prepper in any way, just have a big freezer and a wife that likes to keep a full pantry. I've been going once a week because I am physically incapable of getting everything on my dang list. Either I forget something important, or they're just plain sold out of what I need. I'm more annoyed with myself than the stores, but still. I'm fairly sure my boyfriend and I have already been infected and just shown no symptoms though. He's working on the floor of a retail store, and while I'm in an office I'm still sitting next to my co-worker who thinks any Covid vaccine would trace us via blutooth for the rest of our lives and that 5G is causing this whole mess. So I'm fairly sure he's not taking normal precautions. Obviously, I'm not assuming I've gotten it, but I think it's a fair bet.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:44
|
|
|
Soysaucebeast posted:I'm in an office I'm still sitting next to my co-worker who thinks any Covid vaccine would trace us via blutooth for the rest of our lives and that 5G is causing this whole mess. I hope you are regularly making GBS threads on your boss's desk for making you come in to a shared space for work.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 04:47
|
|
|
the dude I'm sharing an office with does not pay attention to the news and one day asked me why wal-mart was turning people away for not having a mask. while the entire rest of our office was empty
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:06
|
|
|
Spinz posted:The worst news so far is this. Copied from the CSPAM thread, I'll link too I read the paper. Their test was conducted with the same size aerosols produced by normal human breathing. No one has to even cough to shed the virions.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:19
|
|
|
If you keep reading that thread that already backed it up to like 5 or 6 hours from a study by the CDC and only if it's in particles the size of .7 mircons so I don't think I would spread this around as gospel just yet.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:27
|
|
|
zer0spunk posted:OK what is wrong with all of these officials. Is it disposable constituents week or something?? No this is good. If only more politicians would fall on their own swords.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:28
|
|
|
Wendigee posted:If you keep reading that thread that already backed it up to like 5 or 6 hours from a study by the CDC and only if it's in particles the size of .7 mircons so I don't think I would spread this around as gospel just yet. It also feels if it was as infectious to such a degree, we would be in a way, way worse position than we are right now given how long you can be contagious with zero symptoms. The predicted r0 would be through the roof, rather than <4, which is still where I believe the upper end of the scale lies.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:32
|
|
|
EL BROMANCE posted:It also feels if it was as infectious to such a degree, we would be in a way, way worse position than we are right now given how long you can be contagious with zero symptoms. The predicted r0 would be through the roof, rather than <4, which is still where I believe the upper end of the scale lies. I think it's 5.7 now
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:34
|
|
|
The r0 could be in literal moon units and republicans would still try to push us all into movie theaters and barber shops.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:36
|
|
|
CRUSTY MINGE posted:The r0 could be in literal moon units and republicans would still try to push us all into movie theaters and barber shops. The average chud is more than willing to go out in this, look at how many people are packing into hardware stores just to hang out
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:36
|
|
|
shovelbum posted:I think it's 5.7 now This is the last number I heard as well but particles that small probably are not coming out of breathing.... You would need to put a liquid suspension of the virus in like a nebulizer.... I dunno just trying to stay sane. I miss having a functional government with real news especially in times like this.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:40
|
|
|
shovelbum posted:I think it's 5.7 now I hadn’t seen that, well that’s definitely not a good thing. I’m lucky that only one person among my friend group has caught it so far (not confirmed but tested, can’t see it being negative) and he’s about 10 days in. In a pretty bad area too, SE Florida. Taking things seriously does make a difference it seems, funny that I’m counting down for the weekend these days just because it means I can seal myself in the house for 2 and a bit days.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 28, 2024 09:36 |
|
|
CRUSTY MINGE posted:The r0 could be in literal moon units and republicans would still try to push us all into movie theaters and barber shops. I really don't see the problem if chuds want to willingly jump into the virus meat grinder while at the same time causing less pollution. No one is forcing you to hang out with the death cultists.
|
|
#
?
Apr 22, 2020 05:46
|
|