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Mumbly posted:https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1248776933493506048 fwiw, the rumor is that there were a bunch of Harley/Joker scenes that were cut because the abusive nature of their relationship didn't play well with test audiences
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Mumbly posted:Alright, I hear you. His phrasing plus the chud replies interpreting his post that way and cheering him on raised some red flags for me is all. That crowd doesn't tend to argue in good faith. I once saw them claim that because an isis spambot that piggybacks onto hashtags used a trending feminnist hashtag in one of its spam tweets that meant every feminist is an Isis supporter. Barry Convex posted:fwiw, the rumor is that there were a bunch of Harley/Joker scenes that were cut because the abusive nature of their relationship didn't play well with test audiences Test audiences are Joker's trick.
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Barry Convex posted:fwiw, the rumor is that there were a bunch of Harley/Joker scenes that were cut because the abusive nature of their relationship didn't play well with test audiences If the scenes they left in were considered toning it down enough I’d hate to see the purestrain misogyny of the cut scenes
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Internet Wizard posted:If the scenes they left in were considered toning it down enough I’d hate to see the purestrain misogyny of the cut scenes From what I've gathered, you're kiiiiinda in the wrong direction, and the cut material would have basically been the beginning of Birds of Prey with Harley and Joker breaking up.
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E the Shaggy posted:https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/1251504031241056258?s=20 Random twitter guy but lol what https://twitter.com/LarrysComics/status/1251504918629888001?s=20
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Larry is a crank (and I know, he's local to me and hasn't been able to keep a store open), he is best ignored.
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Larry's Comics is a CG supporter so of course he'd say 'comics aren't comics.'
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Isn't he like way pre-CG in terms of "holy poo poo this guy sucks"?
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Endless Mike posted:Isn't he like way pre-CG in terms of "holy poo poo this guy sucks"? Yeah, he's been lovely for a long, long time. Here's one article from 2009: https://comicsalliance.com/dont-be-that-guy-retailer-edition/
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I think he's right in the sense that the sales of trades and manga in bookstores don't speak to the health of specialist comic book stores and single issue sales (I think that's the point he's trying to make??) But he kind of buries that lede beneath his nonsense value judgment.
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JordanKai posted:I think he's right in the sense that the sales of trades and manga in bookstores don't speak to the health of specialist comic book stores and single issue sales (I think that's the point he's trying to make??) That's a problem with what specialist comic book stores are selling. Why in gods name would you not sell trades and manga if you're a comic book store. It's dumb as hell that I have access to a broader range of comics in a chain bookstore than in my local specialty shop. "Comics are american-made superhero books" is the problem and why I won't mourn most of the shops that are forced to close (though I'll mourn my own shop, which is just as bad, but I like because the owner is a nice guy).
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Jordan7hm posted:That's a problem with what specialist comic book stores are selling. Why in gods name would you not sell trades and manga if you're a comic book store. It's dumb as hell that I have access to a broader range of comics in a chain bookstore than in my local specialty shop. This is true to an extent, but also ignores the realities of retail. I live in a large city with expensive real estate, and we have exactly two comic stores within city limits. One is about the size of my one-bedroom apartment, and the other is maybe slightly larger. With limited floorspace, owners have to make decisions on what to stock, and and only the most popular mangas and children's GNs are going to have a chance of being carried outside of special orders. (None of which is to excuse Larry, since he's making a value judgment rather than a business one.)
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Jordan7hm posted:That's a problem with what specialist comic book stores are selling. Why in gods name would you not sell trades and manga if you're a comic book store. It's dumb as hell that I have access to a broader range of comics in a chain bookstore than in my local specialty shop. One of the problems with carrying trades is that Amazon is probably going to kick your rear end on price.
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Open Marriage Night posted:One of the problems with carrying trades is that Amazon is probably going to kick your rear end on price. Although there's something to be said to having a trade somebody wants when they walk in the door. Never underestimate the appeal of just grabbing it off the shelf even if the customer knows they can get it cheaper but later. That does bring with it its own problems of needing to, well, keep everything stocked but there's also a reason a good trade selection is a boon to a comic shop.
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Jordan7hm posted:That's a problem with what specialist comic book stores are selling. Why in gods name would you not sell trades and manga if you're a comic book store. It's dumb as hell that I have access to a broader range of comics in a chain bookstore than in my local specialty shop. I was more so talking about the fact that most comic book stores are closed (as far as I'm aware, that is) whereas online bookstores and some larger retailers are still open. The fact that trades, GNs, and manga are selling well in general isn't a sign of the health of comic book stores, was my point. I say this as someone who's LCS mostly deals in trades and manga and doesn't carry single issues from Marvel and DC, only Dutch ones.  They've been doing very well for themselves and moved to a bigger location a few years ago. No idea how they've been doing since the shutdown, though.
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Dawgstar posted:Although there's something to be said to having a trade somebody wants when they walk in the door. Never underestimate the appeal of just grabbing it off the shelf even if the customer knows they can get it cheaper but later. That does bring with it its own problems of needing to, well, keep everything stocked but there's also a reason a good trade selection is a boon to a comic shop. Oh, no doubt. The Mister Miracle hardcover is the only collected edition I’ve bought from my local shop in the last couple years because it was a comic store exclusive, but I’m almost always able to sell someone on a trade when I’m hanging around. I don’t know how many people that I sell on a volume one come back for volume two, or if they just go online now that they know what they like.
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Hmmmm https://bleedingcool.com/comics/preston-poulter-trademarks-comicsgate/
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Is this gonna be just an even dumber version of how Marvel and DC have a joint trademark over "Superhero" (no space) but anyone can use the phrase "Super hero"?
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Counter with The REAL Comics Gate and Original Comicsgate
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FilthyImp posted:Counter with The REAL Comics Gate and Original Comicsgate And in a year ALL NEW Comicsgate!
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Looking at that link, in the video did they draw the black guy refusing something/liking something meme to have a white guy instead? JFC.
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Anora posted:Looking at that link, in the video did they draw the black guy refusing something/liking something meme to have a white guy instead? Tbf Drake is a pedophile and should be replaced.
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FilthyImp posted:Counter with The REAL Comics Gate and Original Comicsgate And everybody will need a legal defense fund to sue for it!
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FilthyImp posted:Counter with The REAL Comics Gate and Original Comicsgate
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Dawgstar posted:And everybody will need a legal defense fund to sue for it!
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Joe Rogan loves Comicsgate: https://twitter.com/xeviuss/status/1253680311965069313?s=20
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E the Shaggy posted:Joe Rogan loves Comicsgate: Fella across from Rogan seems to have a tenuous grasp of current events.
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Dang, can't believe CHUD Rogan likes CG. Color me surprised.
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E the Shaggy posted:Joe Rogan loves Comicsgate: Joe Rogan is awful, but to me this seems more like he took all of this guy's assertions as read instead of going full sail into supporting CG (assertions about "SJWs" aside). If anything, I think that's the #1 reason his podcast is completely useless at best and harmful at worst: he never engages critically with his guests, he simply lets them say their piece no matter how wrong or wronheaded it is.
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I mean he's absolutely a dangerous idiot that should retire from public life for the good of the public. He's spent years smoking/punching his brain into pudding (or maybe he was just always dumb). He basically just agrees with whatever whomever is sitting in front of him says.
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Heck, having Black Panther beat the ENTIRE Fantastic Four was a political statement.
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Dawgstar posted:Heck, having Black Panther beat the ENTIRE Fantastic Four was a political statement. Ironically I don't think Jack Kirby or Stan Lee meant it to be one, even though they'd already made a bunch of explicitly political comics before that one.
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I mean, having a black superhero at all was a statement of sorts in the 1960s.
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FilthyImp posted:"They're injecting social justice warrior credos into comic books now"  Marvel Comics #1, 1939
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Maxwell Lord posted:I mean, having a black superhero at all was a statement of sorts in the 1960s. In the Panther's first appearance, Johnny Storm remarks on how amazingly advanced and civilised Wakanda is because they had white people stuff. If there was a political statement there, it was accidental.
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Jedit posted:In the Panther's first appearance, Johnny Storm remarks on how amazingly advanced and civilised Wakanda is because they had white people stuff. If there was a political statement there, it was accidental. The political statement is the black dude beating four white people.
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