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I don't think Klein and Yglesias are the people involved in this kind of decision making at all. They are editors, not executives.
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The management structure for the company definitely shades way more towards to vox side of things now but yeah it's probably not Matt Yglesias' fault directly, though I would still like to give him the stone cold stunner
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Apr 22, 2020 17:32
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not knowing about Nick Saban is probably a plus in life. As for The Ringer, I bet Simmons fought for some power to keep the writers on even if that side doesn't make money. Even though they don't generate the ad revenue they do generate a lot of content that gets folded into the podcasts.
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It's less that the random Vox exec didn't know who Nick Saban was and more that they used referencing the most famous person in college football as evidence of a college football podcast being too insular because they assumed if they didn't know a person no one else possibly could either.
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Apr 22, 2020 17:43
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Oh my bad. That makes much more sense.
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Did Vox even try and monetize the Fullcast? I swear the only ads I remember hearing were for other Vox podcasts
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Adun posted:Did Vox even try and monetize the Fullcast? I swear the only ads I remember hearing were for other Vox podcasts They had other stuff. The most consistent ones were like Homefield who specifically sought them out because they were fans, but they got like Sun basket and whatever the sock company that advertises on a million podcasts is. They very briefly had boner pill ads, which I had always thought Holly killed by insisting to read them and making fun of them in her read but apparently Ryan also asked vox people if they could stop getting those.
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I know she kept her job but I feel the worst for Holly because she’s been through his three times in fiveish years now.
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MourningView posted:It's less that the random Vox exec didn't know who Nick Saban was and more that they used referencing the most famous person in college football as evidence of a college football podcast being too insular because they assumed if they didn't know a person no one else possibly could either. Which is hilarious given how insular everything else Vox does podcast wise
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herb alert https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1253027850468364288?s=21
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PASS THE MASH posted:Which is hilarious given how insular everything else Vox does podcast wise what you don't want to listen to another "big ideas" podcast with someone disseminating ideas about tech
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Matty has written multiple columns in the last month about how the biggest issue facing the democratic party is leftist Twitter personalities being rude to him, but maybe I am underestimating the Q score of Virgil Texas relative to Nick Saban.
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Declan MacManus posted:what you don't want to listen to another "big ideas" podcast with someone disseminating ideas about tech Every Vox podcast they’d advertise on Fullcast and PAPN sounded loving abysmal Like, what’s the overlap between Fullcast listeners and “Land of the Giants” listeners
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General Dog posted:Every Vox podcast they’d advertise on Fullcast and PAPN sounded loving abysmal This is at least in part because 99% of podcasts are abysmal
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General Dog posted:Every Vox podcast they’d advertise on Fullcast and PAPN sounded loving abysmal They are keeping that dreadful poptimism podcast but not SACK TIME!, which says it all
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Sack Time has arrived, and none of us were ready
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I scrolled back and can’t seem to find it. Was this exec who said they didn’t know who Saban was during the call announcing furloughs?
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soggybagel posted:I scrolled back and can’t seem to find it. Was this exec who said they didn’t know who Saban was during the call announcing furloughs? He talks about it in the podcast, and no I think it was part of Vox higher ups giving them feedback on the podcast. They thought it was too "insular" and as proof they showed a tweet of Spencer's that included a picture of Nick Saban and unnamed vox person said "I don't know who this is"
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The appeal of podcasts by and large is that the medium allows them to be incredibly niche and insular, while still readily available to their target audience. Do these Vox guys think somebody’s out there putting out podcasts with four-quadrant appeal?
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General Dog posted:The appeal of podcasts by and large is that the medium allows them to be incredibly niche and insular, while still readily available to their target audience. Do these Vox guys think somebody’s out there putting out podcasts with four-quadrant appeal? my best guess is maybe they wanted the Fullcast to be more like a Bill Simmons Podcast or Pardon My Take, but even then that Vox dumbass saying that he doesn't know who Nick Saban is when most sports fans could tell you his favorite Little Debbie snack-cake is a massive tell e: furthermore, think about all the promotional funding and weight that goes into Pardon My Take, the Ringer shows, and Spittin' Chiclets. did Vox do ANYTHING like that for the Fullcast? please write the answers to that question and send it to preownedairboats.com, and/or Jim Bankoff's Twitter account Troy Queef fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Apr 22, 2020 |
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Troy Queef posted:my best guess is maybe they wanted the Fullcast to be more like a Bill Simmons Podcast or Pardon My Take, but even then that Vox dumbass saying that he doesn't know who Nick Saban is when most sports fans could tell you his favorite Little Debbie snack-cake is a massive tell If these are the pinheads who’ve been green lighting their latter day fare like “What If Tech, But Too But Too Match?” and “Trimming My Toenails with Trans Allies”, I really doubt they’re familiar with those things either.
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MourningView posted:Matty has written multiple columns in the last month about how the biggest issue facing the democratic party is leftist Twitter personalities being rude to him, but maybe I am underestimating the Q score of Virgil Texas relative to Nick Saban. I wish I had the confidence to think the fate of a party rests on how people treat me personally
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Funny how he talks about knowing "Gravity Goldberg" because when I went over the 2019 NOTY bracket with my wife, she freaked out a bit because she went to school with Voltaire Casino.
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Troy Queef posted:They are keeping that dreadful poptimism podcast but not SACK TIME!, which says it all switched on pop is loving awful which is unfortunate because it's two qualified people talking about something i should in theory enjoy very much, and vox's youtube music presence is actually not terrible i wish i didn't enjoy polygon
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Jan Six IX is getting severely undervoted in the round of 32. I've learned I'm a sucker for postnominal numbers, though. And this guy has a total of 15!
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Albino Squirrel posted:Jan Six IX is getting severely undervoted in the round of 32. yeah, food-based names are always killers in that bracket.
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As someone who thinks Matt Yglesias used to be an herb (when he was with Slate) and who thinks he's now mostly OK but with some real bad takes sometimes, I haven't noticed him saying the problem with the Democratic party is leftists. Also, LOL at people here blaming him and Klein for what happened to SBNation when there's an actual tech guy dickhead in Bankoff and his running dogs to blame. gently caress, I don't think Yglesias even has editorial position now because he was so bad at it when Vox.com started that they had something like an intervention and kicked him down to just being one of the featured writers. Klein doesn't run the show at the Vox website either, he's just editor at large. Which basically means that he's influential because he's the founder of the website but isn't actually running the show and doesn't have final cut. Also, someone give me 15 million dollars so I can set up the Fullspin empire. Fake edit: Yeah, Yglesias is just a "senior correspondant." Klein hasn't been EIC since 2017.
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habeasdorkus posted:As someone who thinks Matt Yglesias used to be an herb (when he was with Slate) and who thinks he's now mostly OK but with some real bad takes sometimes, I haven't noticed him saying the problem with the Democratic party is leftists. He said that all throughout the primaries Because he’s a prick
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habeasdorkus posted:As someone who thinks Matt Yglesias used to be an herb (when he was with Slate) and who thinks he's now mostly OK but with some real bad takes sometimes, I haven't noticed him saying the problem with the Democratic party is leftists. He's a lot more obnoxious about it on Twitter but here: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/8/21184584/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-supporters
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MourningView posted:He's a lot more obnoxious about it on Twitter but here: As someone voted for Bernie, “Biden will have a hard time winning over Bernie supporters” seems like a pretty mild take
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morestuff posted:As someone voted for Bernie, “Biden will have a hard time winning over Bernie supporters” seems like a pretty mild take The take is more like why even bothering to try nothing he does will work. Which is an I interesting strat. Something you will never see employed for the moderate republicans the Dems have been chasing for 20 years. The article spends more time defending Biden than suggestions for what he could do
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Nothing in that article really reads as defending Biden to me
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CharlestheHammer posted:The take is more like why even bothering to try nothing he does will work. to be fair, nothing biden does will erase the 40 some years of history he's built up as a legislator anyways where do people go to read free quality sports journalism nowadays? sbnation's been gutted as have si and deadspin (and the ringer likely soon to follow), and i don't know that i'll ever sign up for the athletic
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SBN still has Michael Pina, who’s my favorite NBA guy outside Lowe.
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morestuff posted:As someone voted for Bernie, “Biden will have a hard time winning over Bernie supporters” seems like a pretty mild take Yglesias was a big Bernie supporter, I don't know why people are accusing him of attacking the left right now.
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I wish Lowe still wrote articles He had great stuff on grant land
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euphronius posted:I wish Lowe still wrote articles He does they’re just hard to find because ESPN’s site sucks
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