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Hmmm https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/1253162307615678464
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Slowpoke! posted:If Tua falls to Carolina and we don’t pick him, I will start rooting for whatever team is closest to where I live... oh god, the Bills. The only way he tumbles is if his hip is worse than is in the press, in which case I would think teams already know. The only thing I'm wondering about this year is because of Covid there's no scouts having beers together after pro days and comparing notes and there's therefore no media having beers with scouts and sharing notes and if there is a big issue like we had with Star's fake heart condition in 2013, or someone's knee or shoulder because there's always someone, it might not hit the twittersphere because the information simply hasn't filtered through. I guess the other side to that is no one has anything to do so there's probably heaps of text threads between guys sharing info where this stuff could leak but I dunno. The only dumb scenario I can see in my head for Miami trading up is: You would have to assume that 1. Thomas is the consensus top tackle and the Giants are locked in - (working off the expectation that 1 and 2 are Barrow and Chase and Detroit has no interest in a tackle) 2. The Dolphins don't believe in Tua (either hip or bad front officing), they dont believe in Herbert and feel either later they can get Love or Hurts or roll on until next year (or maybe sign Cam?). I guess its plausible. My only question then becomes, who does San Diego take and would the Panthers take Herbert?
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BlindSite posted:I guess its plausible. My only question then becomes, who does San Diego take and would the Panthers take Herbert? I want the Chargers to have a good QB, but it seems pretty unlikely for the near future. They should Trade Up for Tua.
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I'm pretty sure it's going to be Burrow - Young - Tua (trade up) - Wills Jr./Becton/Trade Back (Gettleman is an enigma), some sort of win now pick out of the Lions either with Okudah/Henderson/Lamb/Jeudy/Wirfs/Becton/Wills, which probably puts the Chargers reaching for Herbert. I don't especially see a ton of love or rumors about the other QBs in the class right now unless teams get super desperate on draft day. Possible trade up plays for Herbert or Tua could also come from the Raiders and Jaguars who both own multiple first round picks and both are looking for identity at the position. Panthers have Bridgewater and probably will want to roll the dice with that, Patriots are obviously tanking for Lawrence, and the fringe teams like the Saints/Colts/Buccaneers with their ancient QBs could address the position but I doubt it'll be early. Hell I'm not even sure the Chargers will take Herbert since Telesco has been all about BPA the past few years.
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Got the perfect theme for the draft. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JkIs37a2JE
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:Haha, terrible draft is an understatement. Saints got Kenny Vaccaro at like 15 and I remember being insanely stoked about it. Hell, he was a fantastic rookie. Then his brain fell apart.
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Doltos posted:I'm pretty sure it's going to be Burrow - Young - Tua (trade up) - Wills Jr./Becton/Trade Back (Gettleman is an enigma), some sort of win now pick out of the Lions either with Okudah/Henderson/Lamb/Jeudy/Wirfs/Becton/Wills, which probably puts the Chargers reaching for Herbert. I don't especially see a ton of love or rumors about the other QBs in the class right now unless teams get super desperate on draft day. Possible trade up plays for Herbert or Tua could also come from the Raiders and Jaguars who both own multiple first round picks and both are looking for identity at the position. Panthers have Bridgewater and probably will want to roll the dice with that, Patriots are obviously tanking for Lawrence, and the fringe teams like the Saints/Colts/Buccaneers with their ancient QBs could address the position but I doubt it'll be early. Hell I'm not even sure the Chargers will take Herbert since Telesco has been all about BPA the past few years. So your feeling is Raiders or Jags could force Miami to get their guy? Makes more sense than going after an OT. I would be gobsmacked if the Panthers took Herbert tbh - I'm just curious as to how their offensive minded coach with a young guru OC views him. Even with Bridgewater, I think if they had a shot at Tua and not taking them it would be extremely silly. Bridgewater is on basically a 2 year deal with a 3rd year option. They signed a bunch of offensive players like Pharoh Cooper and Robby Anderson and moved for some pieces on the offensive line but I get the feeling its all about getting a proof of concept this year and getting their long term QB next year. Rhule and Tepper etc spoke at length about a 5 year plan with the team and at the end of this year they're going to have to make a decision on more than a few players' options. Get the skill position players acclimatized this year with Bridgewater (who knows a similar system) as the starter, build something of a defensive nucleus. Get your starter next year and use Bridge as the bridge and move forward. I don't think Teddy is a foundation for the long term. How Herbert fits I dunno. he's never been linked with the team at all but I think the idea that Bridgewater = set is a bit of a misnomer. I think within 2 years the Panthers are taking a QB.
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Doltos posted:I'm pretty sure it's going to be Burrow - Young - Tua (trade up) - Wills Jr./Becton/Trade Back (Gettleman is an enigma), some sort of win now pick out of the Lions either with Okudah/Henderson/Lamb/Jeudy/Wirfs/Becton/Wills, which probably puts the Chargers reaching for Herbert. I don't especially see a ton of love or rumors about the other QBs in the class right now unless teams get super desperate on draft day. Possible trade up plays for Herbert or Tua could also come from the Raiders and Jaguars who both own multiple first round picks and both are looking for identity at the position. Panthers have Bridgewater and probably will want to roll the dice with that, Patriots are obviously tanking for Lawrence, and the fringe teams like the Saints/Colts/Buccaneers with their ancient QBs could address the position but I doubt it'll be early. Hell I'm not even sure the Chargers will take Herbert since Telesco has been all about BPA the past few years. Telesco might take Simmons if he's just sitting there.
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Apr 23, 2020 06:43
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All of this hype ending with Miami trading up for a loving tackle would be so perfect.
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Apr 23, 2020 11:11
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It’s gotta be Tua... 13 hours 40 mins
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Long thread. None of this is confirmed, but this guy has good info every year around draft time. https://twitter.com/CannataPFN/status/1253163585649487872?s=20 - Miami and Detroit have agreed to swap 3rd and 5th - No one believes Miami is trading up for a tackle - Told by three different people there is 0% chance Miami takes Herbert - Tua is Miami's #2 QB behind Burrow with a noticeable drop off to the #3 QB Jordan Love - The Dolphins are split on QB's. Marino is pushing hard for Jordan Love. Some holdovers from the Tannenbaum era want Herbert. Chris Grier apparently stood up at one point to argue why Herbert would not be a good choice. The most influential people in the building want Tua. - Miami's top tackle is Andrew Thomas. Assuming we go Tua at 3 then watch for Ezra Cleveland or Isaiah Wilson later on. If none of those guys are available then Lucas Niang is the name to watch in round 2. - Miami's top RB is D'Andre Swift. Their second choice is Clyde Edwards-Helaire. - Alex Highsmith is a pass rush target late day 2, early day 3. - Xavier McKinney and Antoine Winfield are 2nd round targets at safety.
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Ehud posted:Long thread. None of this is confirmed, but this guy has good info every year around draft time. Would be very happy with all this. Prefer CEH to Swift tbh. Loose hope would be that Kansas does actually want Ruggs and he's there at 18 for us to trade back.
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I am both not excited about the draft because I barely care and also really excited about it because it's a sports-like thing. Also because it has potential to be absolutely disastrously funny if there are glitches. I want the first round to last until 5 AM tomorrow.
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Apr 23, 2020 13:09
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What are the Dolphins going to do in the NFL Draft?
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Cavauro posted:What are the Dolphins going to do in the NFL Draft? If past performance is any guide, gently caress up
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Cavauro posted:What are the Dolphins going to do in the NFL Draft? Ever wonder why a bottlenose has such a long nose? The draft. Gonna have to change their name to the swordfish if this keeps up. Eifert Posting fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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Things that would make me happy: -Any top 4 tackle -Lamb/Jeudy -In the unlikely scenario all 6 of those players are gone, a trade down. Things that would make me sad: -Any defensive player -A trade up I'd immediately take any of the tackles provided at least one makes it to #11. My personal preference would be Wills, Thomas, Becton, Wirfs in that order. Lamb or Jeudy I'm also OK with provided all the tackles are gone. They have to go offense though; I dont care if guys like Okudah or Simmons fall. https://twitter.com/JCaporoso/status/1253280215872266240
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Hi friends, the draft is today 
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Someone asked Burrow what he was planning on doing to celebrate getting drafted. He said he was going to keep watching to see where his teammates ended up.
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Daniel Jeremiah's final mock has has Jet Jefferson going to the Niners over Jeudy. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110524/article/daniel-jeremiah-2020-nfl-mock-draft-40-bucs-pick-jerry-jeudy
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Diva Cupcake posted:Daniel Jeremiah's final mock has has Jet Jefferson going to the Niners over Jeudy. I'll puke out my butt if the Dolphins draft a lovely QB, an "upside" project tackle and an interior OL in the first round
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The 4 guys I would love for Chiefs to get at 32: Patrick Queen Jeff Gladney Cesar Ruiz Clyde Edwards-Helaire
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They're mostly likely trading up for Tua but it's interesting that multiple reports this morning that the Dolphins were really trying to convince the Bengals to move out. Burrow must be way higher on their board than any other QB. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1253295513337815041 https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1253325213032304641
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Diva Cupcake posted:They're mostly likely trading up for Tua but it's interesting that multiple reports this morning that the Dolphins were really trying to convince the Bengals to move out. Burrow must be way higher on their board than any other QB. all we had to do was lose a couple of meaningless games 
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Draft day! Where the biggest suspense for Seattle fans is whether they even pick in the first round, and if they do then how they'll gently caress that up.
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Burrow (or Tua) could just as easily end up Goff or Bradford as he could brees or Rodgers. It's a crap shoot. Tua could be a HoFer or out if the league next year. Five games in 2019 don't matter either way, and it was fun to win them
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tarbrush posted:Burrow (or Tua) could just as easily end up Goff or Bradford as he could brees or Rodgers. It's a crap shoot. Tua could be a HoFer or out if the league next year. Five games in 2019 don't matter either way, and it was fun to win them It's much more likely both of them end up Goff or Bradford than either of them being Rodgers or Brees. Low and uncertain odds doesn't mean Burrow and Tua are equivalent, though.
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tarbrush posted:Burrow (or Tua) could just as easily end up Goff or Bradford as he could brees or Rodgers. It's a crap shoot. Tua could be a HoFer or out if the league next year. Five games in 2019 don't matter either way, and it was fun to win them Excuse me but that tweet says that Burrow is Joe Montana. As a bengals fan I have a strong impression that Joe Montana was actually very good but for some reason I can't remember the specific reasons why.
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Unless it's on my end this morning I'm gonna be disappointed if the forums are sluggish as hell during the draft 
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Grittybeard posted:Unless it's on my end this morning I'm gonna be disappointed if the forums are sluggish as hell during the draft Pretty sure this happened two drafts ago, too. I remember thinking "well, at least there won't be a gif of this Josh Allen pick".
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Kiper has switched his Miami pick from Herbert to Tua https://twitter.com/MelKiperESPN/status/1253325233949310978?s=20
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Ehud posted:Kiper has switched his Miami pick from Herbert to Tua Watching this clip he doesn't sound particular sold, but draft day switches from Kiper generally have pretty high hit rates, right?
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Ehud posted:all we had to do was lose a couple of meaningless games I, for one, am glad you guys won one of those meaningless games.
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