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Draft thread since all you guys clamor for it the second your team gets eliminated from playoff contention. As always this is way too early to make the draft thread since things change a lot between. Here are two posts I made last year around this time: Doltos posted:Didn't even realize this thread got made I was about to write up an OP Doltos posted:I think he's gonna be one of those examples of QBs you think should be outside the top 100 then some team takes him in the first. He's obviously an elite athlete with a cannon for an arm and I think Lincoln Riley is an offensive genius so who knows, he could be a draft darling just like Mayfield. As you can see, a lot changes from now until the draft!! Youtubers to watch that are decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCN0jY4_se9VmRJLFne3OrBA - Zac Shomler. Used to be a college QB, does analysis now. Pretty decent even if he uses limited game tape to make a point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?vochie63 - Voch Lombardi. My favorite film guy. I don't know his background but he actually does tape analysis which is refreshing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCYzfVBuCfGz-oF3aOCGgO5g - Brett Kollman. Kinda okay, I'm not sure how much experience he has but he also does tape analysis. Draft pundits to listen to: https://twitter.com/BobMcGinn - Bob McGinn. Best pundit in the world because he only takes insider scouts analysis and forwards it to us, the masses. Writes for the Athletic now so you get a little more bang for your subscriber buck then giving money to his own website. That's it. The rest are idiots/shills, including me. Top 5 right now: 1. Tua Tagovailoa (If he's healthy) - QB, Alabama 2. Chase Young - DE, Ohio State 3. Joe Burrow - QB, LSU 4. Andrew Thomas - OT, Georgia 5. Jeff Okudah - CB, Ohio State Initial Analysis: This draft is weak as gently caress and it seems like many GMs were jettisoning their first round picks because of it. It is, nevertheless, an exciting QB class with 7 guys that could realistically go in the first round. Tua, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love, Jake Fromm, and Jacob Eason are all decent prospects with the first three headlining/franchise QB potential. This draft is also extremely top heavy with players like Chase Young, Andrew Thomas, Jeff Okudah, Grant Delpit, Jerry Jeudy, and CeeDee Lamb. After that it gets pretty loving bleak. This also appears to be the year of Ohio State/LSU/Alabama with many mock drafts at this time filling most of their spots with players from these teams.
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thank you, Daltos Today I woke up and felt that the Miami Dolphins should still draft Tua even though he is apparently made of breadsticks. Tomorrow I will change my mind.
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Nov 19, 2019 18:24
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Ehud posted:thank you, Daltos He somehow looked better than ever on Saturday before the catastrophe. Insane touch on those balls from a kid that fired nothing but rockets his first year.
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Nov 19, 2019 18:27
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Doltos tell me your opinion of the left tackles. Am I wrong to be lusting after Leatherwood in desperation for merely competent tackle play?
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Nov 19, 2019 18:29
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I could be wrong, but this seems like a much better cornerback than last years.
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Nov 19, 2019 18:34
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Raku posted:He somehow looked better than ever on Saturday before the catastrophe. Insane touch on those balls from a kid that fired nothing but rockets his first year. Yeah healthy Tua beats LSU. He's definitely the premier prospect in this class and here's hoping the recovery goes great. Ches Neckbeard posted:Doltos tell me your opinion of the left tackles. Am I wrong to be lusting after Leatherwood in desperation for merely competent tackle play? Leatherwood is pretty good, that whole Bama line is great at shifting and moving with Tua. I'm not sure about guys outside the SEC like Biadasz and Becton. I know a lot about Trey Adams only because his injury forced him back for his senior season and he was going top 15 before that. Usually I just do a bunch of tape for o-line later because it's hard to see it in real time + it not being very interesting to watch o-line.
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Nov 19, 2019 18:38
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So uh. Quarterbacks. 
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Nov 19, 2019 18:49
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are there any players who might succeed even though they are on the bengals.
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Nov 19, 2019 19:14
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Who the gently caress let you out of your cage
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Nov 19, 2019 19:25
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buckle tell me about interior linemen
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Nov 19, 2019 19:28
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None of your youtube links work because it's trying to turn a user into a youtube video
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Nov 19, 2019 19:39
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Jake Eason needs to go back to school or sit for a full year in the NFL. If he's a day one starter the team that drafts him will get a bust
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Nov 19, 2019 19:53
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hifi posted:None of your youtube links work because it's trying to turn a user into a youtube video My bad I'm old, just google them Sour Diesel posted:buckle tell me about interior linemen Even my staunchest supporters have trouble believing that I scout guards and centers right now
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Nov 19, 2019 19:53
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My team sucks and I need this (but it won't change anything).
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Nov 19, 2019 21:58
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Doltos posted:My bad I'm old, just google them if you want to edit your OP just copy this code:
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Nov 19, 2019 22:02
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I look forward to months of Tua injury watch.
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Nov 19, 2019 22:04
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a neat cape posted:So uh. Hell, same
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Nov 19, 2019 22:18
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LiquidFriend posted:I look forward to months of Tua injury watch. He's gonna rehab slow, fall to the second and the bears will finally get a franchise qb after paying him to rehab for a year
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Nov 19, 2019 22:22
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I don't know if I'd agree with the idea that it's a weak draft so much as it's an odd one in terms of the distribution of talent. There are positions that I think are certainly very strong(WR, CB), and there are positions that are really kind of absolute wastelands(LB). Then there are positions that are really deep in terms of specific sub-positions of players, but devoid of some of the more traditional guys. Look at defensive tackle, for example. Everyone in the league can use the classic three down B-gap linemen, and last year you had five go in the first round(six if you squint at Rashan Gary). This year you've got Javon Kinlaw, who someone is probably going to overdraft and after that lol eat poo poo. If you need a Nose Tackle or someone to otherwise be a space-eater though, it's a pretty loving good draft. I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams dumping early round picks, but I think teams with some specific needs are going to be pretty happy with it.
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Nov 19, 2019 23:34
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double post who does this anymore
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Nov 19, 2019 23:34
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WR and RB do look to be stocked with better talent than last year without a doubt.
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Nov 19, 2019 23:56
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I know it's early but I see like no good WR talent besides CeeDee Lamb and maybe Jefferson. Jeudy rubs me wrong. He always seems to disappear against actual NFL talent and has been riding the LSU and national championship game from last year all this year. Big guy, good route runner, sucks at catching the ball with contact. Devonta Smith has thoroughly outplayed him this year and Henry Ruggs seems to be a way better deep threat. Other than that I don't really know who's in discussion for a first round pick right now besides like Tee Higgins and even then that's more CLEMSON than actual first round talent. RBs are meh too. Jon Taylor is another guy who gets destroyed by real competition despite his gaudy numbers. Swift's cool I guess. Real classic RB that blends size and speed with a bowling ball body. Etiennes JAG, Dobbins is benefiting from the best o-line in college football, Akers seems to be the opposite and I have no idea how good he is because he's constantly stuffed in the backfield. I also haven't watched him much. One guy that is getting huge attention right now is Zack Moss but he's got injury issues and his running style won't help. Other then that there's no LBs this draft, no TEs, one good DT, one great DE, a few okay edge rushers, a plethora of CBs, a bunch of decent safeties that are tweening right now in college, and a poo poo ton of OTs. That's right now though, anyone can start standing out at any time.
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Nov 20, 2019 01:16
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I'd like to see the LSU RB playing in the Chiefs Offense.
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Nov 20, 2019 02:19
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Doltos posted:
How do you feel about Najee Harris? I just didn't see him as having enough speed or explosiveness but over the last few games his catching has been awesome and he's run a lot more aggressively. I feel like he's really been playing himself up the boards recently.
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Nov 20, 2019 03:41
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Tell me about kickers, please.
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Nov 20, 2019 03:43
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Doltos posted:Etiennes JAG que? Maybe it's my love of 2nd round + talent receivers but they feel a lot more plentiful and promising in that territory this year. The Michigan boys, Reager, Surratt, Duverny and Tyler Johnson have my attention. Laviska Shenault has been drawing some 1st round praise.
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Nov 20, 2019 04:05
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The Bills...don't seem to need a QB? Josh Allen has been playing really well the past five games, so it's way too early to think about moving on. But god do we need linemen and wide receivers. Big, dumb, sure-handed receivers who can catch our big, dumb quarterback's passes. Oh, and defensive linemen who can play the run and maybe aren't completely useless in passing situations. That would be loving great.
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Nov 20, 2019 05:01
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Ches Neckbeard posted:que? Just a guy. Yeah there's a lot of average WR talent right now that looks good enough to stick in the NFL. Peoples-Jones and Nico are both fine, Nico's probably better. He makes some really tough contact catches. Reagor, Shenault, and Tyler Wallace are all getting first round mocks lately from what I've seen. Reagor in particular and it's funny you mention Duverny because they're like identical intriguing prospects. They're both pretty short but really stout with great hands and deceptive speed. Don't know what offenses they fit if you take them in the first. Like I guess one of them will inevitably end up on the Patriots.
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Nov 20, 2019 05:14
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Good to hear OTs and CBs are a-plenty, unlike LBs where there are none. Good.
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Nov 20, 2019 05:52
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A draft with OTs AND CBs??? Edit: Vikings Needs OG WR CB OT QB WLB Paint Crop Pro fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Nov 20, 2019 06:23
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Panthers will probably need: - QB - Tackle - DT - Linebacker - DB - Guard
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Nov 20, 2019 15:34
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Lions are... lessee... -CB -LB (which we're not getting in this draft, lol) -CB, jesus gently caress pls draft good corners, we're probably not resigning Slay and that makes me sad -LG, someone, anyone, replace joe dahl and kenny wiggins -a decent second TE would be nice -hopefully not QB -sure take a WR why not
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Nov 20, 2019 17:56
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The Dolphins need like literally everything besides maybe WR, 3-technique, and off the ball linebacker.
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Nov 21, 2019 00:55
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Chargers needs in order: -OL -QB -CB -WR -LB
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Nov 21, 2019 00:57
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Raiders need Cornerback LBs deep threat WR Probably a Guard
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Nov 21, 2019 01:02
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SolusLunes posted:Lions are... lessee... Have Lions fans just given up on every having a running game orrrr.. Also Shouldn't that just say "DEFENSE"
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Nov 21, 2019 01:24
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I can't wait for the Eagles to draft two WRs and one DE, sign a WR in FA, release Agholor's arms into a nice swamp with other alligators, and forget all about LB again.
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Nov 21, 2019 01:45
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andy dalton needs weapons
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SolusLunes posted:Lions are... lessee... It's a lovely draft for traditional off of the ball linebackers, but I think there are some interesting prospects that fit into the mold for OLB in the defense the Lions/Dolphins/Patriots run, guys who aren't going to be highly sought after because they aren't great pure edge or pure LB prospects, but kind of fall into the spectrum between them and invariably get some off of the ball work. K'Lavon Chaisson isn't likely to have the issue of being under-valued because he's got upside as a pure pass rusher, but I'm certain he'd end up getting some significant work at ILB in that defense. Then you've got more mid-round guys like Zach Baun, Carter Coughlin, etc. that I'm sure those teams will be eyeballing. The really kind of odd and interesting guy to me is Charles Snowden. He's a 6'7" 235 pound OLB who isn't really great at anything besides getting in throwing lands and deflecting balls but has some wild physical traits and are probably going to have those teams interested: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/intriguing-2020-prospect-alert--charles-snowden
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:The Bills...don't seem to need a QB? Josh Allen has been playing really well the past five games, so it's way too early to think about moving on. Bills needs(in no particular order) -OL Particularly some interior depth, but Cody Ford is struggling outside at RT and might need to be kicked inside. The Bills in general are a bit thin depth-wise, especially in the interior. Dion Dawkins is the starter at LT, and but isn't much more than a JAG, honestly. -DL Trent Murphy kind of blows, Shaq Lawson is a FA, Star Lotulelei sucks...to sum it up, we need to beef up our defensive line. Of particular concern is our below-average run defense, which has proven to be the defense's Achilles' Heal against non-garbage teams. -#1 WR John Brown is pretty good(but an injury concern): he can take the top off a defense and do damage underneath and in mid-range routes, but Cole Beasley is just a slot guy and Robert Foster and Isaiah McKenzie haven't really shown they can be much more than role players. Oh, and they hate Duke Williams for some reason. A multi-purpose wide receiver, especially a big, athletic target with a wide catch radius could be the missing piece in our passing attack. -CB Tre'Davious White is turning into a great corner, but it would be nice if we got him a partner in crime. While our other corners aren't bad, they're not great either. -LB Lorenzo Alexander isn't getting any younger and there isn't a lot of depth behind Tremaine Edmunds and Matt Milano. Another piece would be nice: they definitely like fast, rangy linebackers. -RB Frank Gore is ancient, but he can still play(and is apparently well-liked. He could well be back next year, if he wants). Devin Singletary is promising. TJ Yeldon sure does exist. What they have in common is this: none of them is a power back. A back that could really hammer down a defense could be a valuable asset. -ST Good lord, our special teams are rear end. We need players who can loving play special teams worth poo poo. Also Corey Bojorquez isn't that great and Hauschka's having a rough year, but drafting kickers and punters seems really dumb. -S We don't really have much behind Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, both of whom figure to become very rich(in safety terms) when the time comes.
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