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That is the idea behind flattening the curve, yes! We will all get it, but over a longer period of time, hence the term. "Flattening the curve" does not mean eradication of the virus! In fact, it can't be eradicated. We have eradicated exactly one virus affecting humans, and one more that affects cows, and neither had peak transmission during the pre-symptomatic / mildly symptomatic phase of the disease. Oh and we used vaccines in fact they were developed for this purpose
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FieryBalrog posted:Our ancestors created a fully functional economy and society, while smallpox raged killing 30% of the people it infected It's unironically pretty cool that we have developed to the point where we can put this value on life. The population growth rate was about 0.1% for most of human history, and it wasn't because the birth rate was low.
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FieryBalrog posted:That is the idea behind flattening the curve, yes! We will all get it, but over a longer period of time, hence the term. who are you talking to? those were joke posts
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IncredibleIgloo posted:While that is an interesting link I don't think it really addresses any actual criticism made of your initial arguments. We do put value on the lives of old people, the link is a method used in public health of quantifying that value.
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Apr 24, 2020 11:11
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we've actually eradicated two diseases, small pox being the most well known but also rinderpest in 2011. the effort to eradicate rinderpest took patience, time, and cooperative efforts from around the world over that time.
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Apr 24, 2020 11:19
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We want to avoid hospitals getting overwhelmed, yes? Step-wise re-openings with localized quarantines used as needed, with local hospital capacity used as the barometer.
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Apr 24, 2020 11:22
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The elderly mother of a friend of mine was in hospital with a life threatening condition with a pretty bad prognosis but a few weeks back all the hospitals in the area went into strict lockdown because of the virus and the doctors gave the family a choice: they could keep treating her condition but the family wouldn't get to see her at all (and she probably didn't have long anyway) or they could take her off dialysis and let her slowly die but the family would at least get to spend a little time with her. They chose to move her into palliative care so they could visit. Conditions are still really strict about how many people can visit her each day though, and most days my friend doesn't get to visit her mother at all. A few times she's snuck in so she can stand in the hallway and speak to her mother through the door. Sorry to hear that but it's good that your friend's family is getting to see her at least a bit.
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FieryBalrog posted:And I'm OK with that! Probably should be up to individual people, for the most part. People who want to stay home will stay home; they can't get it from the rest of us, if they don't go out "Sorry our beds are all full of minimum wage workers who were forced back to work by some guy who really wanted McDonalds, and also the guy who really wanted McDonalds"
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:We want to avoid hospitals getting overwhelmed, yes? Step-wise re-openings with localized quarantines used as needed, with local hospital capacity used as the barometer. That's pretty much the Australian plan, along with ever increasing testing. Flu cases are down on this time last year and flu immunisations are up but our hospital capacity could become stretched if this turns out to be another bad flu season. Lolie fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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Splicer posted:"Help my husband is acting confused and has shooting pains in his arm" Funny story, hospitals across the US are at record low capacities, and things like cancer treatments and "elective" surgeries like ACL repair and hip replacements, are postponed e.g. This Week in Virology podcast ep 603 (09:00), talks about how more people are showing up with ruptured appendices because they aren't coming to the hospital at the first signs of the problem, when it can still be operated on to prevent the rupture
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FieryBalrog wheezing around the respirator as he's wheeled into the ambulance: "No I chose to go out, leave me to die, I'm OK with this. It was... personal responsibility..."
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you have spent too long inside listening to podcasts and huffing your puppy's farts along with your own
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StrangersInTheNight posted:you have spent too long inside listening to podcasts and huffing your puppy's farts along with your own 
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We better not make fun of this lockdown because  young people are so irresponsible they can't handle facts about the disease. We need to make sure they are afraid of dying  We can't discuss trade-offs or anything because that's dangerous when we need a united front on this effort.
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facts from podcasts podfacts and wiki links
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StrangersInTheNight posted:facts from podcasts Also, my shrine to Dr. Fauci
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Lolie posted:That's pretty much the Australian plan, along with ever increasing testing. Testing is so fucky right now I think hospital capacity is the most useful indicator at this time. Less room for numbers massaging too. A rapid, highly reliable test could definitely help though
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I think decisions regarding a public health crisis should be up to individual people - a smart person who definitely has ideas with listening to
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I think vaccinations should be the parent's choice - FieryBalrog, probably
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I will too pass - FieryBalrog
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Doctors believe covid 19 can be transmitted by farts <picture of FieryBalrog's posts>
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quote:I'm sure it was all worth it! I mean it better be! It has to be, right!? Everyone can't be wrong at the same time! Except Sweden, they were wrong, not many Swedes are left alive due to their irresponsible and reckless talk of not-locking-down-but-still-practice-some-social-distancing-while-waiting-for-herd-immunity We can see how Stockholm turned into the ghost town of today
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If people don't want to get run over by drunk drivers they should just stay home - FieryBalrog, slurred and rapidly dopplering
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^^^can you take it to cspam or something.
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Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist, told the BBC that the measures taken had been effective in stopping the country's health system from being overwhelmed by coronavirus patients. He said the virus spreading through the population has allowed some immunity to build up among the population. ... And he said that around 15% to 20% of people in Stockholm, the country's capital, have reached a level of immunity, that would "slow down the spread" of a second wave of the virus, something experts worldwide warning could be coming. ... "At least 50% of our death toll is within the elderly homes and we have a hard time understanding how a lockdown would stop the introduction of the disease into the elderly homes," he said. Bad words from a Nordic neo-Nazi
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FieryBalrog posted:And I'm OK with that! Probably should be up to individual people, for the most part. People who want to stay home will stay home; they can't get it from the rest of us, if they don't go out Except it won’t really be up to the individual people it will be up to their employers and you don’t get unemployment if you quit.
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Those old people dying in their nursing homes demonstrate that you can just stay inside if you don't want the roni.
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My mom is a 57-year-old nurse who just spent two weeks hooked up to a ventilator, and there are healthcare workers hella younger than her also being affected by it just as bad or worse. It's super callous to dismiss it as "Oh it's just old people and sick people that are dying". An old guy at my work said the same thing and when I snapped at him because I've loving heard enough he asked if she had health conditions before and I said no then he sort of nodded to himself and said well cuz she's a nurse she was exposed to more of it that's why. Because that makes it okay I guess! Anyways like I said he's loving old and wasn't wearing a mask like the rest of us so I hope he can console himself when he gets sick that only old people and sick people are dying.
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Humans went from rural agrarians to jetpack-clad penicillin-chompers too fast, now man must pay for this advancement in the blood of GameStop employees. Or we could just... not open the least essential store I can think of, who really needs Funko Pops in this trying time Dely Apple fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Apr 24, 2020 |
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Can this get posted on every page that mentions how this is really only a problem for old folks? https://twitter.com/GeoffRBennett/status/1252051459610480642
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Younger people also get hospitalized at a pretty high rate, they just have much lower chance of actually dying from it. we have no idea if those people end up having permanently hosed up lungs or something
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once trump has the federal guidelines lifted, everyone will be able to go back to doing whatever they want so it's kind of pointless arguing about it
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Ultraviolet ear/nose/throat lamps on amazon.com are already selling out https://www.amazon.com/Quartz-Bactericidal-Ultraviolet-Irradiation-Treatment/dp/B07MFR4QF8  This one looks like it's just regular LEDs but it's also sold out https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Gadgets-Bionase-Nasal-Applicator/dp/B000KESNGE  They're all out of NOSE LASERS as well. https://www.amazon.com.au/HailiCare-Anti-allergy-Anti-snore-Apparatus-Phototherapy/dp/B00WDYH9KU 
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Fabulousity posted:The Gathering of the Juggalos got cancelled due to Corona virus. This is finally getting real Which is ridiculous because there are far worse communicable diseases going around every year at the Gathering.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Ultraviolet ear/nose/throat lamps on amazon.com are already selling out good thing there's plenty of bleach left
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Zoom fatigue is the latest hot topic, giant faces staring at you and there's no escape because where the gently caress are you going to go, get back to work/happy hour! If your job is making you panopticonify your wfh life, there are ways around it; just wear a mask and sunglasses. Most of the fatigue comes from having to physically and mentally control your face for far longer than you would if you were physically there (no one ever looks away / can't disengage). If people complain, cite safety reasons (can never be too sure) and migraines for the sunglasses (increased screen view time will do that you know wink wink). Now you can get away with looking elsewhere on your screen and rolling your eyes during the next useless push strap meeting or whatever lovely termed middle management wankfest your forced to zoom into.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Hawaiian shirts are the latest thing the alt-right has co-opted, along with Pepe and the OK hand signal I bet the Parrotheads are loving livid.
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BlackIronHeart posted:Can this get posted on every page that mentions how this is really only a problem for old folks? I’m not sure guys like Feiry Balrog are going to care about this particular example for some reason.
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Tired: Milkshaking Wired: Margaritaing
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