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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Dallas seems fine, it's mostly people from the suburbs like Frisco that ruin everything

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Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
Dallas is fine, Houston is actually cool and good for the most part. Don’t confuse Katy and Frisco for Houston and Dallas.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
To answer the question inadvertedly asked by the Freeper when they brought up Sweden, the issue is twofold:

Yes, Sweden isn't entirely swamped with Corona cases, but it isn't doing perfectly either. And the reason its doing ok is because while people aren't being forced into lockdown specifically in a lot of cases, there were strict guidelines from the government and people chose to follow them because that's just the norm.

Sweden's economy might technically be open but people are barely going out to any restaurants and lots of gathering-places have been closed.

Stockholm is suffering, but it is partially due to population density and partially due to having its healthcare slashed by, you guessed it, privatization.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Freeps should have referenced West Sahara as a perfect non shelter in place no covid19 cases case study. Too bad that's one of those "other" countries

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I saw in a related article about Sweden today that Resturant attendance was down 90% and cinema attendance down 99%.

This is of course also the problem with the "Lets just reopen everything" crowd. Even if you're personally sociopathic enough to ignore the human cost most people just aren't going to use these things until there's a vaccine anyway. Certainally not enough to make all these businesses viable anyway, most of which only operate on a razors-edge of profit per person.

Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Apr 16, 2020

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Deptfordx posted:

I saw in a related article about Sweden today that Resturant attendance was down 90% and cinema attendance down 99%.

This is of course also the problem with the "Lets just reopen everything" crowd. Even if you're personally sociopathic enough to ignore the human cost most people just aren't going to use these things until there's a vaccine anyway. Certainally not enough to make all these businesses viable anyway, most of which only operate on a razors-edge of profit per person.
That's it, of course. Trump and the chud governors can "reopen" the economy but it will be a long, long time before most people attend a sporting event, book a cruise, visit a nightclub, see a musical act, dine out in a restaurant, leisurely browse in a retail store, work out in gym, or stay in a hotel room.

Day Man
Jul 30, 2007

Champion of the Sun!

Master of karate and friendship...
for everyone!


Sweden is currently running at one of the worst death rates per capita, I believe, and is a great example of how to do things wrong in this pandemic.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Also a good point. Yeah their death/infection rate doesn't look too bad, then you realise they only have a population of 10 million and welp.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

Regarding forcing movie theaters to open: After a certain point there will be nothing to watch anyway because no new movies are getting made.

If we lose Eastenders as well though I'll consider that a net gain.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Cactus posted:

Regarding forcing movie theaters to open: After a certain point there will be nothing to watch anyway because no new movies are getting made.

If we lose Eastenders as well though I'll consider that a net gain.

Losing Marvel movies is the stretch goal.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Day Man posted:

Sweden is currently running at one of the worst death rates per capita, I believe, and is a great example of how to do things wrong in this pandemic.

The US is just one step below it, after the revised death counts (of larger countries). And its number 8. So, technically true, but also a bit skewed by the outbreak in Stockholm and its population density. We'll see how it pans out in coming weeks.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

evilmiera posted:

The US is just one step below it, after the revised death counts (of larger countries). And its number 8. So, technically true, but also a bit skewed by the outbreak in Stockholm and its population density. We'll see how it pans out in coming weeks.

In general, you need to look at where the outbreak is spread in addition to population density. The worst of it in the US is in New York City, because that's the densest city in the country and the reliance on mass transit and walking everywhere for the majority of the population means an infected person could be spreading it to dozens or hundreds of people a day. Other states have their cases scattered across a much larger area or concentrated in their own urban centers while the countryside remains unaffected. Italy got hit in a densely populated area that had tons of people who were part of the most at-risk population, which led to a giant surge in deaths that immediately overwhelmed their healthcare system.

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
Epoch Times: Pork Plant at Center of South Dakota’s Virus Outbreak Had Visit From CCP-Tied Owners

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To: SeekAndFind
Surgical (bioweapon) strike?

Naah, Just a coincidence.


48 posted on 4/17/2020, 12:20:09 AM by READINABLUESTATE (I'm essential!)

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To: SeekAndFind
Nuke the plant and send the waste to China.


8 posted on 4/16/2020, 11:28:59 PM by GreyHoundSailor

quote:

To: SeekAndFind
The 2013 purchase of Smithfield Foods by WH Group was at the time the largest acquisition of a U.S. company by a Chinese firm. The purchase made WH Group the world’s largest pork producer. The takeover was approved by the Obama administration.
The owner of WH Group, Wan Long, holds a seat on the National People’s Congress, the legislature of the CCP.

drat!! Obama selling our FOOD companies to the Chinese communists. WTF?? How the hell his that possible?

15 posted on 4/16/2020, 11:31:57 PM by ProtectOurFreedom

quote:

To: Grampa Dave
“””drat!! Obama selling our FOOD companies to the Chinese communists. WTF?? How the hell his that possible?””””

And what role did Joe Biden and his drug addled son, Hunter, have to play in making this sale happen?

Never forget that Joe Biden was Obama’s point man for USA dealings with Ukraine and CHINA!!!!!


73 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:51:41 AM by Presbyterian Reporter

quote:

To: hoosierham
Selling infected pork to American infidels is the perfect ruse, by 0$h!thead!


83 posted on 4/17/2020, 9:48:37 AM by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)

quote:

To: Jane Long
I pray the end result of all this is a return to Economic Nationalism.

Globalism has failed.


26 posted on 4/16/2020, 11:47:36 PM by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)

quote:

To: SeekAndFind
I hope Cumberland Farms is NOT a part of this takeover.

I have stayed away from Smithfield since the “merger” several years ago.

I have found Cumberland a good replacement and I pray they are NOT part of this.

Or else, NO MORE PORK.


40 posted on 4/17/2020, 12:02:19 AM by Maris Crane

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To: SeekAndFind
From the article: “The visit took place roughly a month after President Donald Trump had banned travel from China, where the pandemic originated.”

State Department is full of slimy, crawl on their belly swamp types who would issue waivers to the Chinese as they have business interests in the United States. Time to kick some State Department slimy, crawlies out.


46 posted on 4/17/2020, 12:17:40 AM by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)

quote:

To: RasterMaster
Actually good news that China owns lots of US land in addition to the huge amount of US debt they hold. Let the lawsuits begin, and they will. China will pay. Seizing all land owned by China in addition to the US Treasury notes, hopefully a couple of trillion repatriated to the US.
Ultimately this will kill trade with China. At the end of the day, not really a loss.


50 posted on 4/17/2020, 12:25:31 AM by LibertyOh

quote:

To: Maris Crane
Raise your own hogs, have them butchered locally, we still have AMERICAN butchers who need the work.


61 posted on 4/17/2020, 12:58:10 AM by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)

quote:


To: SeekAndFind
EVERY hot spot nationally then has a direct link to democrat mayors, democrat government decisions, or Communinist Chinese visits and workers.


79 posted on 4/17/2020, 8:36:43 AM by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but ABCNNBCBS donates every hour, every night, every day of the year.)

quote:

To: Grampa Dave
Would not surprise me if both Bidens are/were up to their armpits with the ChiComs here and elsewhere.
The RNC had better be working on ads that drive that point home.

88 posted on 4/17/2020, 9:55:29 AM by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)

quote:

To: dfwgator
Would not surprise me if both Bidens are/were up to their armpits with the ChiComs here and elsewhere.

The RNC had better be working on ads that drive that point home.

Looking back at some of the swipes and hints by President Trump, he is well aware of the ChiComs and their negative impact on our country.

Check out my new tagline!


97 posted on 4/17/2020, 10:32:32 AM by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs and their blatant ownership of America and the media, the real Deep Staters?)

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
LIBERATE VIRGINIA! LIBERATE MINNESOTA! LIBERATE MICHIGAN! [Trump Tweets]

So this happened...

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To: cmj328

Pressure from Trump on my black face govvie. Nice!

3 posted on 04/17/2020 8:41:43 AM PDT by albie
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To: cmj328

Mr. President, you could help greatly to liberate Virginia by ramping up removals of illegal aliens before they outvote the citizens.

5 posted on 04/17/2020 8:42:09 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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no stop don't go :geno:

quote:

To: cmj328

Any state NOT on Trump’s list will be on our shortlist of states to move to after escaping NYS.

6 posted on 04/17/2020 8:43:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: cmj328

Wow, he tweeted this? I was so disappointed in him last night, but maybe there’s hope after all.

8 posted on 04/17/2020 8:43:22 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Why were you disappointed?

He outlined a carefully crafted plan based on continuously and rapidly changing that are known down to the county level. They know with great precision the status of the nation in as he said a gigantic puzzle of pieces.

The solution proposed is rational. To be disappointed is to be irrational, emotional, Leftist.

41 posted on 04/17/2020 8:55:25 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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Revolution is Coming!

quote:

To: cmj328

Governor KKK needs to reverse course before an enraged citizenry decides that Richmond is enemy occupied territory.

16 posted on 04/17/2020 8:46:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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Oh yeah, that's the stuff!

quote:

To: livius

Now that voter ID has been repealed we will never win another election, illegals will be outvoting the citizens.

30 posted on 04/17/2020 8:52:18 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Unions! :argh:

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To: cmj328

Liberate Kentucky!
Kill the toxic unions that keep putting idiot Dems in power

35 posted on 04/17/2020 8:53:59 AM PDT by HangnJudge (China Lied, People died, Never Forget, this Decade's 9-11)
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Uh oh.

quote:

To: bert

This website is filled with idiots and malcontents who really expected President Trump to take over the country like a dictator yesterday.

52 posted on 04/17/2020 9:00:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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Martial Law is... Coming?

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To: cmj328

LIBERATE PENNSYLVANIA!

PLEASE, Mr. President, declare Martial Law and rein in these despotic Governors!

66 posted on 04/17/2020 9:18:05 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: cmj328

Why in the hell would he tweet this crap? Liberate? Like we did in Sicily? France? Kuwait? Thats what the military is for! You are Commander in Chief! These Govenors are in open defience of the Constitution you swore to preserve, protect and DEFEND! Or are you going to back armed militias taking over Richmond and Lansing? WTF is Trump waiting on?

67 posted on 04/17/2020 9:18:21 AM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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I haven't seen a 3D Chess post in a while.

quote:

To: livius

Trump performed the greatest feat of political jiu jitsu ever. Remember how Cuomo and other Dem governors reacted when Trump said he alone had the power to decide when to open the states? They said he didn't according to the Constitution and they called Trump a dictator and wannabe king.

Trump flipped the narrative and placed the entire decision for opening the states on the governors. They are now responsible totally with the proviso that if they screw up, Trump will step in. A complete reversal of positions with the governors now becoming the focal point of the public's dissatisfaction.

Biden said that Trump "punted." I listened to Cuomo whining this morning saying that he needed help from the federal government. More testing capabilities, more money for the states to make up funding shortfalls in state revenue, etc. Now Cuomo is on the defensive blaming the federal government for delaying the opening of the economy.

The pressure on the governors to open their state economies is going to increase exponentially. People are tired of being under house arrest. Does anyone think NYC will be in lockdown until August? Or Virginia to June 10? The public at large, the business community, Dem donors, etc. will meekly accept the suppression of their freedom of movement and association? Scare tactics only last so long. People will openly defy the rules making enforcement impossible. Politically, the Dem Governors and mayors will wilt under the pressure. They will rationalize why they have changed their minds.

Soon the governors will be the ones advocating strongly to open up their economies reflecting the will of their constituents. That's the way politicians operate. The Dem governors will soon realize that foot dragging will hurt them and the Dem party than Trump.

84 posted on 04/17/2020 9:40:33 AM PDT by kabar
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:sickos:

quote:

To: JonPreston

Deeply discouraged for the first time. I was watching a defeated man surrender last night. The demon is now in full control. I weep for my kids and grandkids.The “plan” is not rational. We closed the doors and turned out the lights but the maniac was already inside the house. I completely reject that without mitigation the original catastrophic models would have been correct. They were just wrong. This was already well among us when we closed the doors. Now hundreds of thousands will die due to the” cure”.

93 posted on 04/17/2020 10:01:44 AM PDT by prov1813man (ist)
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hmm...

quote:

To: cmj328
I'm a big supporter of Trump...but those tweets are cringy and irresponsible.

And the "protests" in Michigan and Minnesota are just as cringy and irresponsible. They'll do nothing to support the conservative movement...in fact...they are hurting it.

How about these folks mobilize to vote out these democrats instead? There's an idea.

The tweets and "protests" are just not what we need right now.
120 posted on 04/17/2020 11:04:26 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (NOT tired of winning.)
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InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

Jagged Jim posted:

I haven't seen a 3D Chess post in a while.

quote:

To: livius

Trump performed the greatest feat of political jiu jitsu ever. Remember how Cuomo and other Dem governors reacted when Trump said he alone had the power to decide when to open the states? They said he didn't according to the Constitution and they called Trump a dictator and wannabe king.

Trump flipped the narrative and placed the entire decision for opening the states on the governors. They are now responsible totally with the proviso that if they screw up, Trump will step in. A complete reversal of positions with the governors now becoming the focal point of the public's dissatisfaction.

Biden said that Trump "punted." I listened to Cuomo whining this morning saying that he needed help from the federal government. More testing capabilities, more money for the states to make up funding shortfalls in state revenue, etc. Now Cuomo is on the defensive blaming the federal government for delaying the opening of the economy.

The pressure on the governors to open their state economies is going to increase exponentially. People are tired of being under house arrest. Does anyone think NYC will be in lockdown until August? Or Virginia to June 10? The public at large, the business community, Dem donors, etc. will meekly accept the suppression of their freedom of movement and association? Scare tactics only last so long. People will openly defy the rules making enforcement impossible. Politically, the Dem Governors and mayors will wilt under the pressure. They will rationalize why they have changed their minds.

Soon the governors will be the ones advocating strongly to open up their economies reflecting the will of their constituents. That's the way politicians operate. The Dem governors will soon realize that foot dragging will hurt them and the Dem party than Trump.

84 posted on 04/17/2020 9:40:33 AM PDT by kabar
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trump is allowing people to die so the dems will get more blame. that's all this says.and he's the hero.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.

Looking forward to freep howling about revolution and then JR meekly bitching about freepers are not sending enough $$$ for freepathons.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
Double posting? IDGAF.

I'm afraid of right now, life will never be normal again.

OP posted:

Sorry for the vanity, but I am concerned, I work in the hospitality industry, always have. There have always been highs and lows, but this is the low of lows.

With the government mandate of social distancing, I'm afraid that there will be no big gatherings,such as wedding receptions, proms, family reuions, company meetings, etc in the future.

quote:

To: DallasBiff
80,000 US citizens died of the flu the winter of 2018 and nobody fluttered an eyelash because propaganda media didn’t think of exploiting it by celebrating every death.

They have finally accomplished through a hoax “pandemic” what they have been trying to do for decades with “climate change.”

That should tell you something.


9 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:25:35 PM by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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It's funny to think of this as him not knowing how many daughters he actually has.

quote:

To: DallasBiff
It will take time but all will be back to normal. The social distancing deal will be around for a long time but gatherings will happen, people will drink at parties and forget about it etc.

I know as a Father to 22 and 26 daughters that will be marrying within the next 2-3 years, I will not allow this BS to get in the way.


11 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:25:52 PM by albie
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*death rates related to COVID-19 increase 4x*

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To: DallasBiff
Don’t worry. American’s have short attention spans and short term memory for this type of thing especially since it didn’t turn into the zombie apocalypse it was predicted to be by the ‘experts’. Summer is coming and people will be ready to go out and enjoy it. Maybe people will take more precautions when the typical cold and flu seasons come around again.


14 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:27:15 PM by MagnoliaB ( You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you will find you get what you need.)
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To: DallasBiff
Don't worry. People are and have been disobeying the government shut-in orders. It is not in the character of real Americans to not exercise their constitutional right of free association. The reason being is that our rights come from God and they reflect human nature which was also created by God. It is our nature to be together.
If our rights are not restored, Americans will revolt and slaughter every sticking Rat until our rights are fully restore. I only hope that this shut-in has caused many more Americans to be question all the rights that have been partly restricted by government over the years.

It is the responsibility of every older conservative American to educate younger generations about the freedoms and liberties that we once had. Speak of those days fondly and infect young ones with a burning desire for freedom. Above all else, they need to know that freedom makes life worth living and all dreams possible.

52 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:38:21 PM by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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But TRUMP is the best BUSINESS MAN leader we've ever had! :trumpfap:

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To: DallasBiff
The world will never be the same.

Just like 9/11 changed so many things, the Wuhan Virus will change many things.

What those changes are, we still do not know...but we now can see how abusive gov’t can be.

We have been given warnings about big gov’t.....FISA abuse, surveillance of citizens without permission, quarantines, suspension of rights, gun confiscation, etc.

We will not be given warnings forever. Soon, it will be too late.


19 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:28:47 PM by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: boxlunch
The one thing we cant forget is who started this virus and how, and who in this country took huge advantage it to hurt America and President Trump. We need to get everything p, all manufacturing out of China, and get China out of the US and universities. And also remember the Democrats, Commiemedia and Hollywood were shrieking like banshees the whole time.


27 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:31:50 PM by boxlunch (Pray for President Trump! Break up the Chicomm/Demomafia/Lying media/Deep State cartel)
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To: DallasBiff
I’m sure being in the hospitality industry, this is an unprecedented situation and I can understand your anguish. I know it doesn’t seem possible now, but it will get better. The human race has survived a lot, and it will survive this and you will too.

I can’t imagine a person better suited to navigate us out of this mess than Pres. Trump. It’s like a bit of divine intervention put him on the bridge at this moment in history. We’re going to be ok. You’re going to be ok.


36 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:33:32 PM by Flick Lives (A liberal is someone who worries that somewhere, someone is enjoying life.)
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To: DallasBiff
Keep Calm and Vote Trump.
If the libs win, it’s over.


46 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:36:35 PM by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: DallasBiff
Trump is the Queen of Battle. No homo.


65 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:45:09 PM by Kalija (Have a drink on me)
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*willfully ignores The loving Great Depression*

quote:

To: AppyPappy
We got the Roaring Twenties, right after the 1918 Pandemic died down.


23 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:29:44 PM by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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:quagmire:

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To: DallasBiff
Just advertise the gatherings on Grinder and Tinder. Apparently gatherings advertised there are OK.
Good Luck!

61 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:42:31 PM by caltaxed (ake)
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And I should know since I've been alive since Pontius Pilate :bahgawd:

quote:

To: DallasBiff
The media is/are all in against President Trump. They are trying everything to get rid of him. First they tried to hound him out of office by getting Republicans to turn against him, then by trying to paint him as a traitor, then as a criminal, then they tried to impeach him. He was cruising to reelection on the strength of the economy so they created the pandemic hoax to knock the economy down.

Creating a crisis is not that hard. The 2008 meltdown was started by Chuck Schumer when he went before the Senate and said Indy Mac Bank is insolvent. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t, but it set the dominoes to falling. ng to a financial crisis that caused McCain to suspend his campaign to deal with it. He thought he would look presidential, but all he did was give Obama the credibility of being his equal.

The hatred for Donald Trump is as bad as I have ever seen for anyone since Pontius Pilate. They are blind to the troubles of the eggs that have to be broken to make their omelet. Deaths? The more the better. Unemployment? The more the better. Businesses shut down forever? The more the better. National Debt? The more the better. Any price to get Donald Trump out of office, and to get any Democrat it doesn’t matter who into office. It truly does not matter to them which Democrat gets into office.


67 posted on 4/17/2020, 3:47:44 PM by webheart (L)
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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
The unfair hatred of Pontius Pilate whose only crime was *checks notes* crucifying God.

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde

kik2dagroin posted:

*willfully ignores The loving Great Depression*
The depression started in '29 - the post you quoted there is probably the sanest thing I've seen posted from the Freeper forums... which I'll admit is a pretty low bar.

Edit: I should qualify that by saying I've seen the sentiment in that post expressed in other places... Not saying I agree with it, just that it's been suggested before.

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 19, 2020

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Scratch Monkey posted:

The unfair hatred of Pontius Pilate whose only crime was *checks notes* crucifying God.

I think what that Freeper is trying to say is that Pontius Pilate hated Jesus, and no-one has hated anyone since then as much as people hate Donald Trump.
Though afaik good ol' PP was barely aware of Jesus existence.

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
Freep is deep into the 'China manufactured the Corona, and Obama/Biden helped' crazytown. This will certainly become the secret wisdom, alongside the Clinton Death List, Seth Rich, etc. The only question is how much it infiltrates the GOP at large.

Other than crazy Tom Cotton.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.
By the way CDC says the 18-19 flu season was 34k deaths, not 80k, in case you thought a freeper might have a point. So, we've already exceeded that number and we're nowhere close to the peak.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Feinne posted:

By the way CDC says the 18-19 flu season was 34k deaths, not 80k, in case you thought a freeper might have a point. So, we've already exceeded that number and we're nowhere close to the peak.

At first I thought you meant 1918-1919 flu season and was about to get real confused.

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
Outside of getting the cert you use nginx (and possibly an out-of-date one at that), it is literally a couple lines in a config file 🤷‍♂️
Woo hoo!! We're up!!

Jim Robinson posted:

Renewing an SSL certificate used to be easy. Basicly one click. Not necessarily so anymore. This one was a bear.

Anyway, it appears our certificate is up and we're officially secure again!

Thank you John!

quote:

To: Jim Robinson
"Continue to website (not recommended)"
Au Contraire, it's Free Republic, a trusted site in my book, HTTPS or not.

8 posted on 4/18/2020, 4:20:00 PM by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Thanks, John. It’s bad enough to import and install an end-user cert, I never had to do it on a server. Have a beer on me.


11 posted on 4/18/2020, 4:20:53 PM by Viking2002 (Why should I walk into the great unknown, when I can sit here, and throw my bones?)
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To: All
How about some donations to get this FReepathon moving again?

If you gave last time, please do it again so that it doesn’t go on for weeks on end.

We NEED Free Republic! Nothing like it!


23 posted on 4/18/2020, 4:38:34 PM by Exit148
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To: stars & stripes forever
Woo!!! That was scary! So THANKFULL for YOU and your CREATION of this Website...FREE REPULIC! Its the ONLY place I can go for TRUTH and INTELLiGENCE!!!


29 posted on 4/18/2020, 4:44:07 PM by starsandstrips
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Assuming JR hits his target donations and they're not entirely fabricated he nets $352,000‬ a year :newlol:.

More drivel from Epoch Times :tinfoil:
China Hasn’t Let Outside Scientists Enter Wuhan Lab: US Secretary of State

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To: Uncle Miltie
So the US has funded this lab and the ChiComs won’t let anyone in the labs...screw those SOB’s. We need to impose a Wuhan Virus tax on any goods or services provided by China until they repay for the damage to the US economy and US CITIZENS finances and a tax on goods and services coming from any country who is doing business with China....cripple their economy!


4 posted on 4/18/2020, 2:49:36 PM by RouxStir (No peein' in the gene pool.)
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To: RouxStir
Excellent suggestion.

Wuhan Virus damage tax on any goods or services provided by China until they repay for the damages to the US economy and US CITIZENS finances and a tax on goods and services coming from any country who is doing business with China....cripple their economy!

First, seize their liquid assets in our country and then put liens on their properties in America like their pork raising industry, slaughter of pigs/hogs and end products like Smithfield products.

Then, seize/freeze their titles/cash on the massive land/improvements they own in America. Turn our lawyers loose with a 20% finders fee on any hidden cash asset in America.


10 posted on 4/18/2020, 4:13:26 PM by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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Cute. Somehow I think suggesting we find all the trillions of dollars the ultra wealthy are stashing overseas would be viewed as COMMUNISM :byodood:

This makes me very comfortable knowing that the President of the United States thinks exactly like these morons :shepface:

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To: Uncle Miltie
And if the Chinese cash in on the US treasuries?


12 posted on 4/18/2020, 6:10:29 PM by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner
Do ‘t pay them.


13 posted on 4/18/2020, 6:45:26 PM by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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To: Uncle Miltie
If the Wuhan lab was not the source of this plague China would welcome all to come in and exam the lab and their records. Most of those records are electronic and now deleted. The paper records that scientists keep before converting them to electronic records have been burned. The few scientist researchers that spoke out a few months past have been disappeared. Hopefully they are in jail. I suspect they are dead via lead poisoning. They can never be allowed to speak thus I really think they are dead.

The Chinese government knew what this was. They isolated Wuhan from the rest of China. They did not stop international flights in an out of Wuhan and knew full well it would spread this disease world wide. They knew they were going to take an economic hit due to the disease. They decided to give the same hit to the rest of the world.

This was an act of war. THEY MUST PAY! We can bomb them and they can bomb us. This is a lose lose scenario. We can tell them all the money we have borrowed from them is null and void. We can bring our manufacturing back home.

Europe must do the same and China would then collapse economically.



11 posted on 4/18/2020, 6:08:41 PM by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oil field trash, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, Constitution worth dying for)
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To: cpdiii
We can expel ALL Chinese students, researchers, reporters, Consulate staff and businessmen from the country, cut off all funding for their education, research, business licenscing, seize “patents”, etc.

Also investigate all US politicians who work for Red Chinese as lobbyists, business consultants, etc. Cancel their passports on national security grounds. Cancel financial transaction methods between the US and Red China.

And just for shits and grins, give the Republic of China, Taiwan, about 50 nuclear weapons, enough to destroy the eastern half of Red China if they are attacked. Good-by Peking, Shanghai, Yunnan Province (the opium/heroin capital of Red China), and all of the other major cities that are within a thousand miles of the China Sea/Sea of Japan.

Ah hell, take out Hainan Island as payback for their shooting down American aircraft during the Vietnam War, including killing those who survived (Lt. Dunn, for one - Maureen (d)- I owe you this one. I remember your pain).


16 posted on 4/18/2020, 9:50:43 PM by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Uncle Miltie
Nuke the little yellow dog-eating bastard$ till they glow in the dark so they are easier to spot with a sniper scope.


18 posted on 4/18/2020, 11:42:57 PM by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

chitoryu12 posted:

At first I thought you meant 1918-1919 flu season and was about to get real confused.

Oh yeah lol 2018-19.

Sarcastr0
May 29, 2013

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?
Trump Suggests Injecting Disinfectant and UV light or Something I honestly don't know Trump Suggests Injecting Disinfectant and UV light or Something I honestly don't know

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To: Beowulf9
Trump isn’t one to stand around and talk science fiction nor does he have a habit of letting his internal monologue just leak out. That seemed like he knows something and is setting up the press again.


73 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:47:07 AM by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)

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To: Beowulf9
He did NOT say “injecting”. WTF are you trying to do here?

He talked about the potential of UV rays to kill the virus. Think about it, there are ways to possibly use it internally...I’m not a doctor, but when I heard this today I thought of how tubes are stuck down people’s throats for intubation, etc.


4 posted on 4/24/2020, 12:42:54 AM by KJC1 (Illegals: One hand out and the other one flipping us the bird)
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To: Beowulf9
He asked questions. He’s not completely wrong. You may not be able to bring uv rays into the body enough to eradicate the virus, BUT during the Spanish flu they learned that patients treated in the open air and sunlight improved survival by as much as 50%.
Sunlight can be part of a cure, as well as prevention.


5 posted on 4/24/2020, 12:43:37 AM by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)

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To: Guenevere
disinfectant as a mist or something.... maybe he was thinking like an inhaler (injected).... sounds like he was thinking out loud. But said leave it up to the doctors.

MSM is grabbing at anything and twisting and spinning it. Desperation.

This is not going to end well.... people have had enough.


26 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:01:03 AM by DOC44

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To: Beowulf9
That’s called exploring possibilities. Some ideas work, some do not. You don’t know which is which until you explore them. Is this an impeachable offense?


28 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:01:23 AM by Telepathic Intruder

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To: Beowulf9
Personally I found idea brilliant. It would be exceedingly easy to introduce UV light inside the lungs. Doctors are well skilled at inserting suction tubes, endoscopes, etc, down airways into the the lungs. How difficult could it be to insert a high intensity, heat shielded, UV LED attached to a endoscope inside each lung for a few seconds of treatment?
Lungs are translucent, so the UV light should be able to penetrate quite a lot of lung tissue, IMO. I see very little in the way of risk by such a procedure compared to the risk someone in critical condition from the coronavirus faces.

42 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:15:30 AM by amorphous

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To: Beowulf9
1) UVC Does Kill viruses and bacteria. 2) Sunlight and fresh air are in-fact anti-Viral agents. 3) asking if there is a way to take advantage of these known facts in some way, for a non-medical expert/non-scientist is a reasonable question to ask given facts 1 and 2.
If Dementia Joe had the wherewithal to even think of such a thing the Media would declare the question pure genius.
If Obama asked the same question, DITTO. But, because it is President Trump...and many not fit to tie the man’s shoes jump all over the man.


55 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:27:53 AM by ocrp1982

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To: KJC1
Laura Ingram, tonight, had a UV light expert answer questions and describe how such a system could be installed in public areas. He said UV’s ability to kill virus has been well researched. It is used widespread in the sterilization of equipment.

Fans would circulate air up from the floor to the ceiling between special UV fluorescent light tubes. Airborne viruses would transported up in the air to be destroyed in seconds. Viruses on surfaces and shelving would be destroyed in minutes. People would have all exposed surfaces—hands, arms, face, head, clothing—rid of all viruses in minutes. The area would be essentially a sterile environment.

No damage from these specially generated light rays would occur to humans.


63 posted on 4/24/2020, 1:34:08 AM by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)

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To: Wayne07
If Biden said what Trump said today, people here would be laughing and calling him a senile idiot. Don’t embarrass yourself further by suggesting we should research internal UV light as a treatment.

Why not? These are brainstorming sessions sometimes. When you work with people of quality and intellect and high value, there is no shame or mockery of outlandish ideas if they are floated. This is the difference between visionaries and people who have difficulty feeding their parking meters ... I'm just glad you and the dem-media weren't around when moldy bread was being considered as a treatment that would go on to change the disease course of mankind.

Don't embarrass yourself further ...

90 posted on 4/24/2020, 2:19:51 AM by true believer forever (Fight the Attacks against Trump: PLANT YOUR FEET, LEAN INTO IT, BEAT IT BACK.)

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To: true believer forever
I think what Trump was asking was could there be a way to perhaps “Transilluminate” tissue in the UV range. It is something done diagnostically by Medical Students in the visible range, I’ve never heard of a treatment like that. The PT people do IR trans illumination to “promote capillary recovery”. I’ve seen it, no idea if it works

What he was asking, I believe was is there a way to run fiber optics into each small airway and treat the lungs with UV in a manner similar to suction during a bronchoscope. Maybe. Nobody ever thought of that before I don’t think. It’s doable but the blood is moving through the chest so fast the blood couldn’t be treated, the airway epithelium, maybe but I doubt you would get enough “log kill” to be effective.

Trump just wants it to end. The guy is up there every day for weeks now. Who else on this earth could do what he has done?


106 posted on 4/24/2020, 5:03:43 AM by wastoute (Anyone who believes PsyOps are not involved has never met a PsyOps Officer.)

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To: DOC44
I have had enough!

As soon as President Trump said this, a relative texted me the President wants to inject bleach into people ....and called him idiotic!

My husband is writing this relative to tell him stop communicating with us!


125 posted on 4/24/2020, 7:30:21 AM by Guenevere (Press On!)

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

“Setting up the press again.” When did he set up the press before? When they tried to cover for him and then he yelled out on live tv that he poo poo himself on purpose?

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



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BUT during the Spanish flu they learned that patients treated in the open air and sunlight improved survival by as much as 50%.

Yes, it was definitely the sunlight. Not the fact that patients weren't being kept in an enclosed space with contaminated air circulating around ad infinium.

I love it when people confuse "accidentally did something right" with "ancient wisdom."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The London Homeopathic Hospital had the best patient outcomes during the 1854 cholera outbreak, better than any of the local conventional clinics or house call physicians.

They were also the only ones with their own private well on the premises, but I'm sure that's unrelated.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I mean it's probably very related because you need a lot of water to run a homeopathic hospital :v:

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Guavanaut posted:

The London Homeopathic Hospital had the best patient outcomes during the 1854 cholera outbreak, better than any of the local conventional clinics or house call physicians.

They were also the only ones with their own private well on the premises, but I'm sure that's unrelated.
Homeopathic "medicine" regularly had better outcomes than conventional medicine in the 19th century, because it turns out that doing nothing whatsoever was better than - say - draining half of a patient's blood or having them drink mercury.

Finnankainen
Oct 14, 2012
The ‘Big Lie’ Behind COVID-19

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To: NKP_Vet
Right......

Let’s NOT talk about China.

It’s much easier to bitch about our own government.

This virus isn’t real. The Italians were faking it. Americans aren’t really dying, Cuomo’s just making up numbers for Federal money. I got a cargo ship full of ChiCom rubber dog-poo I can’t unload.

More BS from the Free Traitors.


10 posted on 4/24/2020, 7:18:10 AM by Empire_of_Liberty
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Big brained Freeper: 30,000 daily new cases of coronavirus is too few!

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To: cba123
Do you understand the goal was to flatten the curve which means slow the spread.

It did not mean stop the spread. The goal was a slow spread of the virus so 30,000 a day may be a little too slow.


16 posted on 4/24/2020, 7:29:12 AM by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
“What was the goal then?”

Political Control. They got you completely believing their BS and are willing to do anything the polidiots tell you. Hell, you come here parroting everything they say without question.

Question for you: If all these anti-virus measures supposedly stopped the spread of COVID-19, why didn’t those same measures stop the spread of the flu and the common cold, also viruses??

Come on, the COVID-19 was supposed to be extremely virulent, way beyond the flu, yet, those same anti-COVID measures didn’t stop the flu. Those measures didn’t stop anything. They couldn’t. Viruses don’t follow political nonsense like staying 6 feet apart or wearing a cloth mask. If that were the case then biohazard labs wouldn’t need all the positive pressure space suits, negative pressure rooms, etc. to stay safe. You got suckered and look ridiculous with your gloves and masks and painters tape on store floors.

The Chinese used the virus to stop the anti-Communist protesters in Hong Kong and Wuhan. The American left used the virus here to destroy Trump’s Great Economy™ and stop him from holding his massive rallies. It worked and you believed it.

Feel stupid yet?


38 posted on 4/24/2020, 8:30:34 AM by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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Guys, if you think about it, coronavirus hasn't actually killed anyone!

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To: bramps
If 50,000 are dead now, what number would the author guess would be dead if we did nothing?
If you would go back to basics you can answer your own question, which would be the same 50,000. Prove it to yourself, go to your local morgue and count all the bodies. Do you know about 8,000 people die in the USofA EACH DAY? The about 50,000 die each YEAR because of the flu? No you don't because you are too lazy to look. Where are all these bodies that died because of the virus, I may ask you... Do you know we have less daily dead that last year? No Kidding! If there are no bodies there is no plague or super flu... Just life going one. This is like the Tulip Mania, or Gulf of Tonkin, or Globull Warming. I don't like being harsh, but wake the froggy up! Do your basic math - The figures don't add up.

39 posted on 4/24/2020, 8:37:48 AM by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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Finnankainen
Oct 14, 2012
Double posting but this one is too good not to share.

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To: impimp
Flu Cucks Klan folks are late today.


4 posted on 4/24/2020, 5:37:08 AM by eldoradude (Boycott Chinese made goods)
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InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
so if all of this is a lie to get more things under government control why isn't trump fighting them?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I hope they let that one guy into the morgue when he goes to count the bodies. I hope they let him stay a long time.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

InsertPotPun posted:

so if all of this is a lie to get more things under government control why isn't trump fighting them?

The fake news media has rendered him powerless with their fearmongering Alinksy tactics. He can't fight or they'll call him a murderer, it's up to us.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Someone should ask him to go to the morgue in NYC and ask how many bodies they actually store per day.

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Here let definitely normal-brained smart guy Ben Garrison explain why Trump isn't stopping the islamocommunist tyranny of closing Applebee's



quote:

Fire Fauci Hire Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai

Dr. Anthony Fauci right now is in the driver’s seat. Trump put him there and it was a huge mistake. Fauci may be a key member of Trump’s coronavirus task force, but he has also been a long-time key member of the globalist medical tyrants.

Is Fauci in Bill Gates’ back pocket?

Deborah Birx is often seen with Vice President Pence. She too is owned by Bill Gates. These Deep State swamp dwellers all want to drag out the quarantine lockdown for as long as possible. They’re doing this to make Bill look like a savior when he rolls out his vaccine. They think the citizens will insist on getting the shot. Yes, the same shot with digital elements. A vaccine ’tattoo,’ or mark of the beast. In some states it will become mandatory. In California, vaccines are already mandatory. We’re losing our ability to decide what goes into our bodies. It’s the ultimate in Orwellian tyranny and Bill Gates is Big Brother.

The Left wants mandatory vaccines yet when it comes to abortions, it’s “My body. MY Choice”.

Fauci is little brother. He’s a short man with a Napoleon complex. Fauci has also made mistakes and faulty predictions, but he’s still driving. Trump can’t do anything now. If he ends the lock down, Fauci and the Deep State will accuse him of murder. If Trump allows Fauci and Gates to let things drag on and on, the economy will be killed. Crime will skyrocket. People will run out of money. Fauci wants this because a vaccine is the only way to end the crisis. That’s why he didn’t want hydroxychloroquine. He wants the vaccine. They also want Trump to receive all the blame no matter what happens.

Doesn’t Fauci have to get at least ONE covid-19 ie “Chinese Virus” prediction right?

Fauci now says the White House is mulling coronavirus certificates of immunity. This is a way of preparing people to be tracked and be ‘allowed’ to travel. “Your papers please!” It will be the stake in the heart of our Fourth Amendment.

Fauci is a fraud. He must go. FIRE FAUCI!

Sign the Petition at FIRE FAUCI!

“The current trajectory of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s public ‘health’ policy will result in the short- and long-term destruction of our citizen’s immune health as well as our nation’s economic health – perhaps a conscious and intended goal. Dr. Fauci’s policy, at best, is based on a 1950s outdated ‘one-size-fits-all,’ non-personalized approach to medicine and public health; and, at worst is derived from a ‘fake science’ understanding of the immune system – one, which Dr. Fauci, over five decades has perpetuated, and exploited to build his career.”

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai

Fire Fauci!—Ben Garrison

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